Cable Forum - Coronavirus

Other latest Covid Stats: Nearly 21,000 people are now in hospitals across UK, up nearly 3,000 since yesterday, with Covid-19. (Almost at same of peak of first wave).

The today’s total 744 death toll is the highest since 29th April. The second wave is on course to be worst than the first.

It's concerning considering those April numbers are some weeks after the lockdown came in. We're only now seeing some areas having an equivalent lockdown.

jfman

23-12-2020 18:23

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36063475)

My son is isolating because his partner tested positive neither of them have left the house since, they had the shopping delivered and no one was allowed into or out of the house, earlier they ordered a takeaway and told the delivery chap to put it in the front garden, every thing was fine until 10 min later when there was a knock on the door, it was the police, someone had reported a covid breach, they asked is there a Garry here my son replied we don't know a Garry, the police said he just walked in here with some bags, my son replied we just had a takeaway delivered this is a bit malicious isn't it, the police just turned around and left.

And this is the country we now live in one where nosey curtain twitcher's report you for eating fish and chips.

That's a good response time by the police.

papa smurf

23-12-2020 18:26

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36063481)

That's a good response time by the police.

It's on a par with a motoring offence, if it was a burglary they wouldn't turn up.

Mad Max

23-12-2020 19:51

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36063481)

That's a good response time by the police.

Just a pity they ain't so quick with shoplifters.:rolleyes:

Hugh	23-12-2020 20:02

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36063492)

Just a pity they ain't so quick with shoplifters.:rolleyes:

They don’t have to be - shops are heavy... ;)

1andrew1

23-12-2020 20:07

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36063481)

That's a good response time by the police.

Garry was probably still wearing his tag when delivering. :D

jfman

23-12-2020 20:11

Re: Coronavirus

Next time I get burgled I’m going to report it as a Covid violation, people from multiple households were at my address. Then I’ll explain what happened when they arrive.

Mad Max

23-12-2020 20:17

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36063496)

Next time I get burgled I’m going to report it as a Covid violation, people from multiple households were at my address. Then I’ll explain what happened when they arrive.

That's pretty common. ;)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36063495)

Garry was probably still wearing his tag when delivering. :D

That deserves a :D

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36063493)

They don’t have to be - shops are heavy... ;)

That too..:D

Sephiroth

23-12-2020 22:21

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36063471)

I understand that there are c. 1,200 hospitals in the UK dealing with CV.

So, with 21,000 people in hospital, that's 17.5 / hospital.

What's the big deal or have I misunderstood something? Even with incidence distribution that might make sum hospitals double or treble that number with corresponding reductions elsewhere.

Hugh	23-12-2020 22:41

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36063508)

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A safe level for bed occupancy is below 90% but nearly half of NHS trusts report a figure currently higher than this - the largest proportion this season.

The other challenge is that COVID patients often need Critical Care beds, and there are less than 6000 in the U.K., of which 2000 are neo-natal or paediatric.

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publica...e-services-nhs

nomadking

23-12-2020 22:48

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It's one thing to have general hospital beds, but beds that can be isolated, with monitoring equipment, and possibly needing ventilators is quite another.

Sephiroth

23-12-2020 22:53

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36063512)

The beds are at over 90% capacity, and they don’t have staffing levels to cover this, with staff isolating or off sick.

Also, it’s not distributed evenly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55362681

The other challenge is that COVID patients often need Critical Care beds, and there are less than 6000 in the U.K., of which 2000 are neo-natal or paediatric.

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publica...e-services-nhs

In that case, something doesn't add up unless, on average, each hospital has capacity for only c. 20 beds at 90% occupancy.

What have I misunderstood?

Hugh	23-12-2020 22:58

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36063515)

In that case, something doesn't add up unless, on average, each hospital has capacity for only c. 20 beds at 90% occupancy.

What have I misunderstood?

Nothing - they normally run at 85-90% capacity; there have been lots of programmes on TV about how operations (in ‘normal’ times) are delayed due to lack of beds, so COVID has amplified this.

It’s important to remember not all beds/wards/staff are suitable for all patients - a day ward won’t have the facilities to deal with Critical Care or Post-op recovery; it’s like expecting a car garage to be able to deal with HGV - different equipment and staff skills.

For instance, in February this year (pre-COVID), over 80% of the England’s ICU beds were occupied (we only have just over 4000)

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistic...2020-auY71.pdf

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