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Sephiroth 20-12-2019 16:19

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
Anyway - all that Scottish tosh aside ...

The Guvmin got a huge majority for the Withdrawal Bill and the timetable to get it all through Parliament by 09-January.

Meanwhile, the bleaters don't stop - nothwithstanding the election result.

Anyway, a good day in Parliament, at last.

Mr K 20-12-2019 16:55

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36020730)
Six Labour MPs voted for the bill, and it looks like around 30 abstained, in defiance of Corbyn who, even now, still doesn’t understand that there is a clear democratic mandate not only for Brexit, but to stop dithering and get it done. The rest of the PLP, apparently equally delusional as their lame duck leader, followed his whip and voted against.

---------- Post added at 15:37 ---------- Previous post was at 15:19 ----------

Update ... 25 formal Labour abstentions, five shadow ministers failed to show up and did not have permission to be absent. One brand new Labour MP seems to have missed the vote by accident. What a shower of incompetents and moral cowards.

358? If there are 365 Tory MPs, and 6 Labour voted for it, that means at least 13 Tory MPs didn't. A principaled stand or down the pub? ;)

Chris 20-12-2019 18:04

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36020737)
358? If there are 365 Tory MPs, and 6 Labour voted for it, that means at least 13 Tory MPs didn't. A principaled stand or down the pub? ;)

I imagine with the parliamentary maths as they are, a few people may have been excused attendance for one reason or another. I don’t know - when I last posted the details of who voted for what were still coming in. I would be seriously surprised (and unimpressed in the extreme) if any Tories voted against, or were absent without permission, given the centrality of this vote to the election campaign.

Edit ... full breakdown here: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...he-brexit-deal

Looks like about a dozen Tories didn’t vote. As I said, I’d be monumentally surprised if they didn’t have permission from the whips to be absent.

(Obvs Sinn Fein didn’t vote, but a few SNP and at least one DUP didn’t either).

Damien 20-12-2019 18:09

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
11 Tories were absent

papa smurf 20-12-2019 18:14

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36020746)
11 Tories were absent

well that's smashed that conspiracy theory:)

Mr K 20-12-2019 18:16

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36020746)
11 Tories were absent

Do they have a note from their Mums?

Still 2 unaccounted for then....

Chris 20-12-2019 18:20

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36020749)
Do they have a note from their Mums?

Still 2 unaccounted for then....

If you’re really desperate for a shred of comfort you could go through the voting list with a fine-tooth comb if you want. Grauniad link above.

But to be honest I think even for a remainer in continued denial you’re grasping.

pip08456 20-12-2019 18:42

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
The bill passed no need for any further discussion really.

Mr K 20-12-2019 18:46

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36020751)
If you’re really desperate for a shred of comfort you could go through the voting list with a fine-tooth comb if you want. Grauniad link above.

But to be honest I think even for a remainer in continued denial you’re grasping.

I was just interested old chap, chillax !

Sephiroth 20-12-2019 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36020749)
Do they have a note from their Mums?

Still 2 unaccounted for then....

Deputy Speakers.

1andrew1 21-12-2019 12:49

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
I think this thread gives us an indication of how things might go with the trade talks.
https://twitter.com/RussInCheshire/s...33108472434688

OLD BOY 21-12-2019 13:29

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36020828)
I think this thread gives us an indication of how things might go with the trade talks.
https://twitter.com/RussInCheshire/s...33108472434688

Prophesied by the guy who said we would not even get past the first stage of negotiations with the EU!

When are you going to ditch your negative outlook and actually try to understand how many times you have been wrong on this?

Hugh 21-12-2019 13:43

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It’s humour - chillax, dude... ;)

Mythica 21-12-2019 13:58

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36020831)
Prophesied by the guy who said we would not even get past the first stage of negotiations with the EU!

When are you going to ditch your negative outlook and actually try to understand how many times you have been wrong on this?

With all due respect, lots of people have been wrong from both sides. It's not just a one person/side thing.

nomadking 21-12-2019 14:09

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
Technically, negotiations haven't started yet and can't start until after we leave the EU on 31st Jan 2020. All that has been agreed so far is an interim set of arrangements, and until the EU Parliament approves it, even that isn't in place.
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Assuming the European Parliament also gives the green light, the UK will formally leave the EU on 31 January with a withdrawal deal.


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