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I imagine it's not as big news people aren't as clued into the affairs of Kuwait as they are with America. That's certainly the case with me. I know a lot more about that's happen in Britain, Europe or America than I do Kuwait. Also, with no disrespect to Kuwait, America has a lot bigger impact on the world.

Is it ok for Muslims to ban Muslims? I think blanket bans on anyone on the grounds of their place of birth or religion is wrong. If you have two people that are exactly the same but one was born in a different place you've deemed 'wrong' then that's harsh. Although I was especially angry at the treatment of already legal migrants, I think that remains outrageous.

That I think there is a much stronger argument for controlled immigration where you prioritise people. So skilled migration first, quotas etc.

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To equate the USA and Kuwait is just being dumb.

The USA is founded on immigration, it is the self-proclaimed "land of the free" and up until recently welcomed all irrespective of race or religion. Trump (and Bannon behind him, pulling the strings) is trying to stop this based on their prejudices and "America First" goals.

Define "safe"? If your child is shot in High School or a victim of a drive-by shooting, is their death "acceptable"? Are those deaths tolerated?

Apparently they are. If Trump's priority was to make America "safe" then he would not start with a Muslim ban when no Americans have been killed on US soil by said immigrants.

The USA already carefully vets potential immigrants:

How does the US screen refugees? Very carefully

so the EO Muslim Ban is just political theatre pandering to his electorate, nothing more.

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A friend of mine on facebook made a good point. She made the point that there are ways Trump could have introduced the delay (remember he assured us that this ban is only a delay) into the system without generating the news he did. Simply delay the checks.

As for the threat posed by Islamic extremists, there is one (to suggest otherwise is, frankly, stupid) but it's not as great as any of our governments have said. Indeed, in America, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist that you are an Muslim extremist. http://europe.newsweek.com/right-win...s-422743?rm=eu

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Why, two sovereign nations controlling their borders

So they're not allowed to say who comes in then?

I've made no mention of this.

they want to be more careful, that's their prerogative.

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That really was priceless... especially in your next post, you then said....

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Dear Lord, don't you remoaning minnies ever stop your remoaning? I've always thought of 'remoaner' as an affectionate platitude for 'loser'. There's just no pleasing mummy's little soldiers :).

I, for one, am more than happy to stop using the offensive 'R' word if the more factual terminology of loser is preferred.

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Or you could just grow up and stop talking in terms of winning and losing like a 12 yr old

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Yes it would be nice if the small minority did not spit the dummy out just because someone has a different view to what they have as l thought this is what grown rational adults were supposed to in debating rationally without the need to throw out childish insults all the time.

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This is weird. Kelly-Ann Conway, Trump's advisor and former campaign manager, has cited a terrorist attack committed by immigrates from the listed countries as justification for the ban. The only problem is that his terrorist attack, the 'Bowling Green Massacre', never happened: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nd-travel-ban/

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A little knowledge is a dangerous thing for an uninformed rookie politician now at the sharp end.

There was no massacre but there was terror related crimes undertaken by Iraqi immigrants that did cause the 6month pause that the Obama administration imposed of Iraqi visas

http://www.wcpo.com/news/state/state...green-massacre

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Quit moaning and go back under your bridge

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Yawn ... :rolleyes:

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What would be more worrying if these "facts" start to creep into the press briefings. I know that Mr Spicer is spinning various events in Trumps favour but it is a fine line between spin and invention ..

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If you want to equate the actions of the worlds largest democracy, founded on welcoming immigrants and a constitutional Emirate with a semi-democratic political system and a suspect human rights record then please go-ahead.

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Roll your eyes all you bloody want ! Practice what you preach. Simples. :dozey:

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I can see this causing him problems.

Donald Trump White House Dress Code Policy? Female Staffers Must ‘Dress Like Women,’ President Says

http://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-...sident-2485576

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Or how about both sides stop using such potentially offensive terms as Remoaner and Loser and actually work together to improve things?

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Agreed, however, to be fair the article did say men had a to adhere to a dress code too. Dress codes for male and female are set in different appearance in many walks of life when it comes to various companies.