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jj20x 06-06-2013 19:49

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35580444)
Channel 991 is broadcasting the same steam as Freeview Channel 301.
Channel 994 is broadcasting the same steam as Freeview Channel 303 (I think).

I think the following may happen:

A) An Extra Red Button steam will be added to Channel 992 soon.

I did wonder why only 2 EPG slots were allocated when 3 are allocated on freeview.

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B) As the HD Red Button Channel is just for this summer maybe BBC HD will relaunch later this year
Unlikely to see the return of BBC HD, but there could be new services when the new DVB-T2 temporary multiplexes are added on DTT.

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Why did Virgin put BBC Red Button on Channels 991 to 994 for when Channels 183 to 186 is free?
I would have thought for the same reason freeview put them in the 300 range, they are interactive streams and not channels in their own right.

harry_hitch 06-06-2013 19:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35580552)
Go on MB spill the beans :beer:

I would be very surprised if Universal HD does not arrive soon. Major companies like Universal simply do not allow sloppy errors like sending out the wrong adverts to the wrong companies. Also, VM must check all adverts just incase there is anything that could involve them being sued/fined for any number of reasons. Universal HD will be coming, it's just a question of when.:)

jj20x 06-06-2013 19:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35580559)
Any idea when the BBC RB HD channel is going to launch, as I hope it is ready for the Confederations Cup next weekend?

It's a stream not a channel so won't launch as such, it will just show content as and when required.

Lostlam 06-06-2013 19:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35580566)
It's a stream not a channel so won't launch as such, it will just show content as and when required.

I know mate, but how will you watch the content then?

I guess by going to the channel number required for it. I doubt it will be shown on the BBC Sport app.

Jameseh 06-06-2013 20:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
Both, a regular channel feed via the EPG and a internet stream via the connected red button & BBC Sport app.

That allows VHD & V+HD customers to watch in HD which they wouldn't have been able to otherwise, which as they can on Freeview, would be breaking the neutrality. Someone found some feeds on satellite last week so presumably that's the same thing confirmed for Sky & Freesat.

Lostlam 06-06-2013 20:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35580572)
Both, a regular channel feed via the EPG and a internet stream via the connected red button & BBC Sport app.

Cheers mate. I personally prefer the channel format instead, as it allows you to record the content if you are busy.

jj20x 06-06-2013 20:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35580569)
I know mate, but how will you watch the content then?

I guess by going to the channel number required for it. I doubt it will be shown on the BBC Sport app.

That's how it works on freeview, they are available from other BBC channels through the red button or by simply going to the channel number. Allocating a channel number rather than hiding the streams from the EPG just means that they are recordable. I can't really see any other reason for it.

Lostlam 06-06-2013 20:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35580574)
That's how it works on freeview, they are available from other BBC channels through the red button or by simply going to the channel number. Allocating a channel number rather than hiding the streams from the EPG just means that they are recordable. I can't really see any other reason for it.

I know how it works on Freeview, but I didn't think it would be the same on VM. It wasn't like that in the past.

jj20x 06-06-2013 20:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35580576)
I know how it works on Freeview, but I didn't think it would be the same on VM. It wasn't like that in the past.

It doesn't have to be like that on freeview, the streams could be hidden and only accessible from the MHEG, there's no real need for an LCN to be allocated. The pay adult channels on DTT use that method to hide the streams.

Perhaps someone at the BBC decided it would be better to have a similar approach across every platform. Or VM switched to make the streams recordable. Either way, VM doesn't yet have a slot for the freeview RB 302 stream.

Lostlam 06-06-2013 20:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35580586)
It doesn't have to be like that on freeview, the streams could be hidden and only accessible from the MHEG, there's no real need for an LCN to be allocated. The pay adult channels on DTT use that method to hide the streams.

Perhaps someone at the BBC decided it would be better to have a similar approach across every platform. Or VM switched to make the streams recordable.

Myabe mate. Either way, I am happy the format is similar. Just hope it is used properly.

ocav 06-06-2013 20:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35580586)
It doesn't have to be like that on freeview, the streams could be hidden and only accessible from the MHEG, there's no real need for an LCN to be allocated. The pay adult channels on DTT use that method to hide the streams.

Perhaps someone at the BBC decided it would be better to have a similar approach across every platform. Or VM switched to make the streams recordable. Either way, VM doesn't yet have a slot for the freeview RB 302 stream.

Well probably one of the streams will be delivered over the Internet connection for Tivo users, otherwise it makes the connected red button kind of pointless

Media Boy UK 06-06-2013 22:00

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35580562)
Unlikely to see the return of BBC HD, but there could be new services when the new DVB-T2 temporary multiplexes are added on DTT.

Will BBC did say on Sunday's Points of View -

See link from 07.41

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...013_Episode_9/

Aguero9320 06-06-2013 22:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
I say, Virgin have recently been rather sneaky, launching channels on the platform without notifying MB! If VM carry on this way, you could be out of the job; Virgin could soon become a Captain Hook business.

paultrademark 06-06-2013 22:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
Well they are going to need 6 streams for the Glastonbury coverage in a few weeks

jj20x 06-06-2013 22:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35580591)
Well probably one of the streams will be delivered over the Internet connection for Tivo users, otherwise it makes the connected red button kind of pointless

I would have thought that all of the broadcast steams would be duplicated with possible extra streams available for the connected red button. Yes, it does make it kind of pointless but the connected red button is at a very early stage of development, not really a mass market option at present.

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35580605)
I say, Virgin have recently been rather sneaky, launching channels on the platform without notifying MB! If VM carry on this way, you could be out of the job; Virgin could soon become a Captain Hook business.

Indeed, they do seem to be cutting poor old MB out of the picture with these recent additions. :shocked:

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35580604)
Will BBC did say on Sunday's Points of View -

See link from 07.41

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...013_Episode_9/

It's very vague and only really states that the BBC are looking at making BBC Four documentaries available in HD. Which could mean showing them on BBC Two, or could mean they will be shown on one of the new BBC HD channels planned for the additional freeview DVB-T2 multiplexes.

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Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35580612)
Well they are going to need 6 streams for the Glastonbury coverage in a few weeks

Well, that's certainly not going to happen across all platforms, unless they go for 1/4 resolution streams.


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