Cable Forum - Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I also believe once salmonds make-it-up-as-you-go politics fall apart, it'll end up - somehow - being the English's fault again.

One things for sure though, whatever the outcome, there now exists a massive undercurrent of bad feeling between the Scottish & English people that just didn't exist before.

It'll be the fault of the English for not giving us whatever we want in negotiations plus a bonus.

This campaign has turned so poisonous it's untrue with NO signs being vandalised at every turn and some people if previously thought of as reasonable polluting my Facebook with David Icke level nonsense about secret oil fields that MI5 have kept quiet till someone who worked on the drilling crews mum leaked it on twitter (seriously) and having to take pens into the voting booth incase MI5 rub out the pencil marks and change their votes.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35727338)

UKIP want to hold a rally up there! Hopefully now that the prospect of Yes winning is very real they'll decline to do so.

We've still got the prospect of the clowns in the Orange Order staging a march in Edinburgh to look forward to which is a massive own goal for the No camp if it goes ahead.

LondonRoad

08-09-2014 13:33

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The more information people receive over the next 10 days then the more likely the Yes campaign will succeed according to this study:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...-yes-1-3534372

MalteseFalcon

08-09-2014 14:10

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Might already have been answered, but not going back through 136 pages (being lazy).

Was a reason ever given for excluding England, Wales and Northern Ireland from this referendum? If it is going to have such a dramatic effect on the UK if Scotland leaves why was it only allowed to happen in Scotland?

Damien

08-09-2014 14:11

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35727385)

Was a reason ever given for excluding England, Wales and Northern Ireland from this referendum? If it is going to have such a dramatic effect on the UK if Scotland leaves why was it only allowed to happen in Scotland?

Because they'll be the ones to go Independent. It's their decision. You cannot force someone out of the country or force them to say in.

Chris

08-09-2014 14:32

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35727385)

Because it is not a referendum on ending the UK, despite the hyperbole in the Press this morning. It is a referendum on Scotland leaving the UK. As such, it's a decision only Scotland can make.

Qtx	08-09-2014 14:33

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Is this the demographic of the scottish population now?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/09/40.jpg

Chad	08-09-2014 14:46

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35727392)

Is this the demographic of the scottish population now?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/09/40.jpg

The foreign vote could swing it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...th-border.html

Damien

08-09-2014 16:54

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It's getting very dire indeed:

https://twitter.com/ian_a_jones/stat...93722219241472

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The new TNS poll on Scottish independence is a sensation. It's embargoed until midnight, but I doubt the media will wait that long.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...eferendum-live

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The Guardian’s Ewen MacAskill has been told there is little relief on the horizon for Alistair Darling and the no campaign: that the next poll to be published on Tuesday will confirm the trend.

Mr Angry

08-09-2014 17:25

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All to play for.

Clearly Osborne et al are now having to make offers of concessions beyond those which they had originally anticipated.

This is funny to watch.

Hom3r

08-09-2014 17:31

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What turn out will be needed to make it legal? What if less that 50% turn up to vote, surely you need a high turn out?

Chad	08-09-2014 17:48

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35727446)

What turn out will be needed to make it legal? What if less that 50% turn up to vote, surely you need a high turn out?

On SKY News press preview last night they suggested, based on the postal votes submitted so far, that it's going to be the biggest turn out for any vote in Scottish history.

They way things are going this vote could be decided by a margin of as little as 30,000 votes. The future of a country decided by the slimmest of majorities. Whatever the outcome, almost half the population will not get what they want. It's going to take a long time to mend what is a country divided.

Mr Pharmacist

08-09-2014 17:49

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35727446)

What turn out will be needed to make it legal? What if less that 50% turn up to vote, surely you need a high turn out?

The first to get over 50% wins, no matter what the turnout is.

Derek

08-09-2014 17:59

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35727446)

What turn out will be needed to make it legal? What if less that 50% turn up to vote, surely you need a high turn out?

Nope. No minimum turnout needed.

As things stand the turnout will be high 80s maybe even 90s. A lot of people who would never normally vote are for this one which could be an issue for No.

denphone

08-09-2014 18:04

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35727455)

How did it come to this...? :(

Chad	08-09-2014 18:09

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35727460)

Nope. No minimum turnout needed.

As things stand the turnout will be high 80s maybe even 90s. A lot of people who would never normally vote are for this one which could be an issue for No.

The under 18 vote could swing it. Too young to do any of the below but somehow considered trustworthy and educated enough in life to help decide the future of a country :confused:

Vote in an election for your local councillor, MP (UK Parliament), MSP (Scottish Parliament), MEP (European Parliament).

Stand for election as a local councillor, MP (UK Parliament) or MSP (Scottish Parliament).

Earn the National Minimum Wage rate for 18-21 year olds.

Become liable to register and pay the Council Tax.

Serve as a juror.

Buy alcohol in licensed premises and consume alcohol in a bar.

Buy cigarettes & tobacco.

See any film/hire any video.

Buy or possess fireworks.

Place a bet.

Hold a credit card.

Work behind a bar.

Be tattooed.

Hire or buy a sunbed.

Be licensed to serve alcohol.

Hold a basic commercial pilot’s licence.

Hold a licence to drive a medium-sized goods vehicle.

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