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Re: President Trump 2.0

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204356)

That's fine if Trump wants to turn the gun on himself. Don't point it at me you have no rights on my life.

I think you need to take a break.

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Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Trump should wait till 2026 if the prize is awarded for work the year before.

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Nobody has campaigned for a Nobel Peace Prize quite like Donald Trump.

The US president has been brazen and unrelenting in his quest for one of the world’s most prestigious honours, saying it would be a “big insult” were he not to receive it.

But experts are sceptical about the unprecedented lobbying campaign bearing fruit when the Norwegian Nobel Committee awards it on Friday. The reasons range from Trump’s own behaviour at home and abroad to the fact that the prize is meant to honour actions in 2024 — when he was elected but not yet in office.

“Putting pressure on the committee, going on talking about ‘I need the prize, I’m the worthy candidate’ — it’s not a very peaceful approach,” said Nina Græger, director of the Peace Research Institute Oslo.

https://archive.ph/sZloF

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It's a very interesting situation on several fronts.

First, there's Trump the person. Certainly on past history, there is something of a pig in his nature and many would say that this is a sticky attribute.

Second, he very brazenly heads a powerful country and uses that persona to get his way (bully others say) into submission. See his tariff policies for detail where he is aware of the double edge to that weapon, but it frightens other xcountries and he likes that. Vaseline and bend come to mind.

Third, he loves himself (this is different from being a pig). But he knows that he is a pig and wants to prove that there is a better side to him. Hence is (sometimes misconceived) monologues full of self-praise.

In the above light, he has used his attributes to bring Israel to some sort of heel, no doubt threatening them with a weapons embargo. 9/11 won't be too far from his mind in that context and so Israel zapping Hamas pleases him. He is also pig enough to brush aside (pretending not to) the civilian suffering in Gaza in pursuit of his real estate ambitions for Gaza. If he can see that through, in the long run, Gaza might do very well.

A peace prize is almost inevitable!

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If it helps force peace in Gaza, give it to him! But maybe wait a bit so he maintains his interest. They should drop a hint tomorrow, saying they're watching Trump's actions in Gaza with encouragement and are interested to see how the next year or so develops.

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If Obama got one whilst continuing to prosecute two wars, then I think Trump should be ok.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36204419)

If Obama got one whilst continuing to prosecute two wars, then I think Trump should be ok.

Obama was the first black president of the USA and the committee got carried away with the idea of what that *might* mean for racial peace and harmony. In effect, they gave him the prize on credit. It was an obvious error, and one I’m certain they will be delighted not to repeat with the USA’s first orange president.

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Great news about the Nobel peace prize ,Trump's not getting it.

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And in a truly epic piece of trolling, they’ve given it to a Venezuelan.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36204431)

And in a truly epic piece of trolling, they’ve given it to a Venezuelan.

All joking aside, in order to be considered for the award of the year, nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize shall be sent in to the Norwegian Nobel Committee in Oslo before the 1st day of February the same year.

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Someone’s for the chop for not lodging a nomination on the day Trump took office. After all, within 24 hours of that the Ukraine - Russia war woukld have been resolved. Innit?

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And he stopped the war in Abbaburgervan

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EU and UK should let Trump know that if the Gaza peace deal is a success and he gets peace for Ukraine by the end of January, they will all nominate him.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204437)

Joyously, that’s not how the diaper’d orange baby will see it.

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Who could have seen this coming?

(from Truth Social)

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"Some very strange things are happening in China! They are becoming very hostile, and sending letters to Countries throughout the World, that they want to impose Export Controls on each and every element of production having to do with Rare Earths, and virtually anything else they can think of, even if it’s not manufactured in China. Nobody has ever seen anything like this but, essentially, it would “clog” the Markets, and make life difficult for virtually every Country in the World, especially for China. We have been contacted by other Countries who are extremely angry at this great Trade hostility, which came out of nowhere. Our relationship with China over the past six months has been a very good one, thereby making this move on Trade an even more surprising one. I have always felt that they’ve been lying in wait, and now, as usual, I have been proven right! There is no way that China should be allowed to hold the World “captive,” but that seems to have been their plan for quite some time, starting with the “Magnets” and, other Elements that they have quietly amassed into somewhat of a Monopoly position, a rather sinister and hostile move, to say the least. But the U.S. has Monopoly positions also, much stronger and more far reaching than China’s. I have just not chosen to use them, there was never a reason for me to do so — UNTIL NOW! The letter they sent is many pages long, and details, with great specificity, each and every Element that they want to withhold from other Nations. Things that were routine are no longer routine at all. I have not spoken to President Xi because there was no reason to do so. This was a real surprise, not only to me, but to all the Leaders of the Free World. I was to meet President Xi in two weeks, at APEC, in South Korea, but now there seems to be no reason to do so. The Chinese letters were especially inappropriate in that this was the Day that, after three thousand years of bedlam and fighting, there is PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. I wonder if that timing was coincidental? Dependent on what China says about the hostile “order” that they have just put out, I will be forced, as President of the United States of America, to financially counter their move. For every Element that they have been able to monopolize, we have two. I never thought it would come to this but perhaps, as with all things, the time has come. Ultimately, though potentially painful, it will be a very good thing, in the end, for the U.S.A. One of the Policies that we are calculating at this moment is a massive increase of Tariffs on Chinese products coming into the United States of America. There are many other countermeasures that are, likewise, under serious consideration. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"

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https://www.reuters.com/world/china/...ls-2025-10-09/

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China expands rare earths restrictions, targets defense and chips users

China dramatically expanded its rare earths export controls on Thursday, adding five new elements and extra scrutiny for semiconductor users as Beijing tightens control over the sector ahead of talks between Presidents Donald Trump and Xi Jinping.

The world's largest rare earths producer also added dozens of pieces of refining technology to its control list and announced rules that will require compliance from foreign rare earth producers who use Chinese materials.

The Ministry of Commerce's announcements follow U.S. lawmakers' call on Tuesday for broader bans on the export of chipmaking equipment to China.
They expand controls Beijing announced in April that caused shortages around the world, before a series of deals with Europe and the U.S. eased the supply crunch.

"The White House and relevant agencies are closely assessing any impact from the new rules, which were announced without any notice and imposed in an apparent effort to exert control over the entire world's technology supply chains," a White House official told Reuters on Thursday.

The new curbs come ahead of a scheduled face-to-face meeting between Trump and Xi in South Korea at the end of October.

"This helps with increasing leverage for Beijing ahead of the anticipated Trump-Xi summit in (South) Korea later this month," said Tim Zhang, founder of Singapore-based Edge Research.

China produces over 90% of the world's processed rare earths and rare earth magnets. The 17 rare earths are vital materials in products ranging from electric vehicles to aircraft engines and military radars.

Exports of 12 of them are now restricted after the ministry added five - holmium, erbium, thulium, europium and ytterbium - along with related materials.

Foreign companies producing some of the rare earths and related magnets on the list will now also need a Chinese export licence if the final product contains or is made with Chinese equipment or material. This applies even if the transaction includes no Chinese companies.

The regulations mimic rules the U.S. has implemented to restrict other countries' exports of semiconductor-related products to China.