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papa smurf 29-12-2020 10:02

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36064061)
Well I honestly think they have been paid off to throw all the evidence away!

Alot of evidence has been shown and every bit of it was tossed.....

Sounds like big pay offs to me!!!!!

Nothing you can do about it now the establishment have taken control.

Mr K 29-12-2020 10:10

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36064077)
Nothing you can do about it now the establishment have taken control.

that would be the 'grown-ups' ?

Hugh 29-12-2020 10:42

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36064061)
Well I honestly think they have been paid off to throw all the evidence away!

Alot of evidence has been shown and every bit of it was tossed.....

Sounds like big pay offs to me!!!!!

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36064077)
Nothing you can do about it now the establishment have taken control.

That would be the Republican establishment and the Trump-appointed judges?

Are you guys on the Trump legal team? You seem to have the same tactics - shouting "fraud" but never back it up with any evidence, then when challenged on it, start with the conspiracy theories.

Sore losers... ;)

(strange how the three recounts at Republican-controlled Georgia, where the machine counts matched almost exactly the paper ballot counts, is never mentioned - it's almost as if the evidence never existed in the first place)

1andrew1 29-12-2020 11:01

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Even Murdoch's New York Post - one of the many pillars of the establishment which supported Trump - is telling him he lost.

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You have tweeted that, as long as Republicans have “courage,” they can overturn the results and give you four more years in office.

In other words, you’re cheering for an undemocratic coup.

You had every right to investigate the election. But let’s be clear: Those efforts have found nothing. To take just two examples: Your campaign paid $3 million for a recount in two Wisconsin counties, and you lost by 87 more votes. Georgia did two recounts of the state, each time affirming Biden’s win. These ballots were counted by hand, which alone debunks the claims of a Venezuelan vote-manipulating Kraken conspiracy.

Sidney Powell is a crazy person. Michael Flynn suggesting martial law is tantamount to treason. It is shameful.

We understand, Mr. President, that you’re angry that you lost. But to continue down this road is ruinous. We offer this as a newspaper that endorsed you, that supported you: If you want to cement your influence, even set the stage for a future return, you must channel your fury into something more productive.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-i...d-the-nations/

Carth 29-12-2020 12:20

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All this crying going on about losing an election, then searching high and low for any excuse to get the result overthrown . . . sort of reminds me of our own lot in a similar scenario a few years ago ;)

The good old US of A . . . civil war incoming :D

papa smurf 29-12-2020 12:30

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36064099)
All this crying going on about losing an election, then searching high and low for any excuse to get the result overthrown . . . sort of reminds me of our own lot in a similar scenario a few years ago ;)

The good old US of A . . . civil war incoming :D

The very same people who cried foul over that result are now denying Trump the right to do the same to the 2020 election result , hmmm isn't that strange.

Hugh 29-12-2020 13:45

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Comparing apples with giraffes - one was an advisory referendum, the other was a National Election.

One took points of law, supported by evidence, to the Courts and won some cases, the other never took any evidence of fraud to the Courts, but still cried "Fraud!”.

One never had anyone trying to say certain votes didn’t count, the other did. (even though they had brought the laws in about those votes).

Nice try...

papa smurf 29-12-2020 13:58

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36064114)
Comparing apples with giraffes - one was an advisory referendum, the other was a National Election.

One took points of law, supported by evidence, to the Courts and won some cases, the other never took any evidence of fraud to the Courts, but still cried "Fraud!”.

One never had anyone trying to say certain votes didn’t count, the other did. (even though they had brought the laws in about those votes).

Nice try...

Your evidence is tossed case closed.

Paul 29-12-2020 15:40

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
This arguing is going nowhere, as it stands, no fraud has been proven, the result stands.

Unless you have something new and worthwhile to add to the topic, then move on.

Hugh 01-01-2021 15:23

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
A US Constitutional Law Professor on Twitter (@ProfBrianKalt) has pointed out a small problem with the Republican Members of the House/Senate who may try to overturn the State Certification in Congress on the 6th January (to stop Biden becoming President).
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More attention than usual will be paid on 1/3 to how the House forms at the start of a term.

The Constitution makes the House the sole judge of the elections, returns, and qualifications of its members. But who is "the House," given that everyone's term starts anew at noon?

The process relies heavily on state certifications ("returns"). The Clerk of the previous House uses them to form the roll.

Having a certification entitles you to swear in with everyone else. People can challenge you after that, but in the meantime, you have your seat.

The GOP reps who reject state-certified presidential results (and the law making those certifications definitive) will take their House seats on 1/3 solely based on…the presumed validity of their state-certified election results.

Dude111 01-01-2021 17:22

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Originally Posted by Maggy
Because it was bogus and untrue and there is no evidence to be tossed.

Ya possibly Maggy :)

Chris 01-01-2021 18:12

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36064568)
Ya possibly Maggy :)

No “possibly” about it. If you still believe any of this extremist far-right nonsense you’re a moron.

pip08456 01-01-2021 18:31

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36064582)
No “possibly” about it. If you still believe any of this extremist far-right nonsense you’re a moron.

There's plenty of those in the US.;)

Paul 01-01-2021 18:36

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36064584)
There's plenty of those in the US.;)

Plenty in the UK as well. ;)

papa smurf 02-01-2021 14:33

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Republican plan to challenge election signals ‘cult of Trump’ will live on in Biden era
Around 140 Republicans expected vote against counting of electoral college votes, in symbolic move to disrupt Congress and bolster Trump



Maverick super-loyalists to Donald Trump are set to make an audacious spectacle in Washington next week by voting against the formal counting of electoral college votes certifying Joe Biden’s victory.

While the tactic by outliers won’t be enough to stop Biden becoming the 46th president, it will serve to disrupt Congress, bolster Trump and establish an acidic tone to political co-operation with the incoming Democratic administration.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ctoral-college


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