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I’d be quite happy for the SNP to do a Catalonia.

A referendum lacking legitimacy or legal authority is the easiest to fight - you just refuse to take part. Let it be seen for the farce that it is.

Then afterwards, while I don’t imagine the British legal system would go after SNP ministers for treason as the Spanish did in Catalonia, I do wonder whether there might be a case to answer regarding misuse of public funds.

Rhodesia did it. We didn't go after them.

nomadking

18-12-2019 18:32

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As of Feb 1st 2020, we will not be a member of the EU. It would be a bit pointless the EU complaining about not having a commissioner from the UK for such a short period of time.

jonbxx

18-12-2019 19:06

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36020635)

Well this is in the WA so I assume it becomes active once given royal ascent.

Interestingly in the WA, Citizens rights in respect to EU law are covered by the CJEU until (as it stands) 2028. It will interesting how this will work

nomadking

18-12-2019 20:01

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36020647)

Interestingly in the WA, Citizens rights in respect to EU law are covered by the CJEU until (as it stands) 2028. It will interesting how this will work

AFAIK the issue must stem from before the end of the transition period. EG something happens in Dec 2020, they can still pursue the matter to the CJEU.

Chris

18-12-2019 22:01

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Rhodesia did it. We didn't go after them.

Rhodesia was a territory of empire. Only the most unhinged Nats seriously argue that Scotland is an outpost of empire in the same way as Rhodesia, India or wherever.

noel43

19-12-2019 08:37

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36020662)

Rhodesia was a territory of empire. Only the most unhinged Nats seriously argue that Scotland is an outpost of empire in the same way as Rhodesia, India or wherever.

Same difference still a country in its own right. Should be able leave union if it so wishes, without our way so

papa smurf

19-12-2019 08:55

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Same difference still a country in its own right. Should be able leave union if it so wishes, without our way so

But in 2014 they said they wanted to stay in the union,in a "once in a lifetime" referendum,i know Scotland is a bit dire in places but the life expectancy is surely more than 5 years even with the nats ruining the nhs :shrug:

noel43

19-12-2019 09:02

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[QUOTE=papa smurf;36020668]But in 2014 they said they wanted to stay in the union,in a "once in a lifetime" referendum,i know Scotland is a bit dire in places but the life expectancy is surely more than 5 years even with the nats ruining the nhs :shrug:

What is a lieftime. Who's lifetime. What is a Nat somebody not of your persuan. Our gov ain't running our NHS very well,it's about to collapse.

nomadking

19-12-2019 09:15

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Same difference still a country in its own right. Should be able leave union if it so wishes, without our way so

In the same way that Crimea(60% Russian population) and eastern Ukraine should be allowed/accepted? Even though the Ukrainian constitution doesn't allow it.

How many of the SNP's "successes" are purely down to the excessive amount of money they get from England? They are running an 8% deficit(that includes oil revenues which will run out).

Hugh	19-12-2019 09:27

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Well, if the Russians hadn’t sent 300,000 Tatars to Uzbekistan, the demographics would be a bit different...

Chris

19-12-2019 11:24

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I know I’m as guilty as anyone else here but if there’s to be any more Scexit chat can it please take place in our existing thread:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33684496

Chris

19-12-2019 17:41

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We expect moderator instructions to be followed.

Two posts removed - please now stick to the topic.

heero_yuy

20-12-2019 15:14

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Breaking:

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Quote from The Sun:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1562846859

BRITAIN is officially on its way to leaving the EU on January 31 today after MPs finally backed Boris Johnson's Brexit deal by a huge majority of 124.

There were loud cheers across the chamber as MPs opted by 358 - 234 to deliver the new deal after three years of dithering and delay.

Excited Tory politicians took snaps of the packed voting lobbies today - some of them walking through for the first time.

Fresh with his whopping majority, the timetable motion passed through too, so the Bill will be finished off in the New Year.

At last the blocking is over.

Chris

20-12-2019 15:37

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Six Labour MPs voted for the bill, and it looks like around 30 abstained, in defiance of Corbyn who, even now, still doesn’t understand that there is a clear democratic mandate not only for Brexit, but to stop dithering and get it done. The rest of the PLP, apparently equally delusional as their lame duck leader, followed his whip and voted against.

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Update ... 25 formal Labour abstentions, five shadow ministers failed to show up and did not have permission to be absent. One brand new Labour MP seems to have missed the vote by accident. What a shower of incompetents and moral cowards.

pip08456

20-12-2019 15:49

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MPs have voted to proceed with the Government's EU Withdrawal Agreement by 358 votes to 234 majority 124

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