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Damien 05-08-2017 12:59
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910872)
And you still doing it again with polls. I take no notice of them at all. Remember that 90% chance that Killary would win Presidency in a landslide, that there was no path to Trump winning. What total bollocks all this turned out to be.
It was a 90% chance of her winning the electoral college. The polls were always quite close in terms of popular vote.


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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910872)
Not a big deal ?

Of course it's a big deal, it's called one sided biased Journalism. You know the type of media outlet that gives the questions to Hillary, to help her cheat in the Bernie Sanders Primaries debate.
How is reporting something 24 hours later than someone else biased? Also you've linked to the Washington Examiner so you're clearly not that bothered about 'one sided biased Journalism'.

Mick 05-08-2017 13:47
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35910884)
How is reporting something 24 hours later than someone else biased?
Because they waste no time in reporting the first thing they can when it comes to Trump.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35910884)
Also you've linked to the Washington Examiner so you're clearly not that bothered about 'one sided biased Journalism'.
Oh so I cannot link to the source that I first got my information from now can I ? :rolleyes:

Mr K 05-08-2017 14:01
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910893)
Because they waste no time in reporting the first thing they can when it comes to Trump.



Oh so I cannot link to the source that I first got my information from now can I ? :rolleyes:
You can do as you like Mick, as long as you allow others to do the same :)

Damien 05-08-2017 14:04
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910893)
Because they waste no time in reporting the first thing they can when it comes to Trump.
Yes they do. They had been working on the story about Trump Jr meeting people allegedly linked to the Russian government for almost a year but couldn't stand it up until they had the leaked e-mails.

Have you noticed they've largely been right on the stories they've broken about Clinton's emails, Flynn and the ambassador, Corney's memo and the meeting with Trump Jr? They don't rush to print and so 24 hours is nothing when they're willing to wait a year.

They had that dossier the British guy produced back in September and never published it until Buzzfeed leaked it.

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Oh so I cannot link to the source that I first got my information from now can I ? :rolleyes:
No. But linking to biased papers while complaining about biased papers is a bit weird.

Mick 05-08-2017 14:50
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35910903)



No. But linking to biased papers while complaining about biased papers is a bit weird.
Oh so you agree there is a bias with NYT, WP ? ;)

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35910900)
You can do as you like Mick, as long as you allow others to do the same :)
I have not prevented anyone from linking to anywhere.... :rolleyes:

Damien 05-08-2017 15:34
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910913)
Oh so you agree there is a bias with NYT, WP ? ;)
There is an inherent bias in almost anything. I don't believe they're radically biased in way a Fox News would be but the nature of their staff, their readers and their outlook tilts it more liberal than the overall United States.

But it's possible to have that bias and still strive to be honest. The problem to me is the increasing hyper-partisan 'press' where they're more activists than journalists. Infowars, The Canary or most other things that fall under the umbrella of 'alternative media', basically people who report whatever they want so long as it furthers their own agenda. Truth literally doesn't matter. They wouldn't follow a story for a year to make sure they have the evidence before printing.

1andrew1 05-08-2017 21:57
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910872)
And you still doing it again with polls. I take no notice of them at all. Remember that 90% chance that Killary would win Presidency in a landslide, that there was no path to Trump winning. What total bollocks all this turned out to be.
I get that you may not be interested in Trump's poor opinion rating but that doesn't mean it suddenly becomes a less valuable performance indicator.

Mick 06-08-2017 01:33
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35910959)
I get that you may not be interested in Trump's poor opinion rating but that doesn't mean it suddenly becomes a less valuable performance indicator.
Stock market reaching record levels surpassing 22K for the first time ever, nearly a million extra jobs since Jan 20th.

Which ever way you look at it, the economy in the US, is improving under a Trump Presidency. Think I will measure this as a performance indicator. Rather than rely on the liberal MSM.

I cannot be interested in something I don't believe. I just base my own opinions on the fact that Democrats have lost all Senate seat elections since Trumps inauguration. The last one having them spent tens of millions of dollars and the Republicans still beat them, must have stung having spent so much and still losing, sure Republican majorities shrank, but a win is still a win.

And to top it off you now got Democrats switching allegiances and becoming a Republican.

TheDaddy 06-08-2017 07:25
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910973)
Stock market reaching record levels surpassing 22K for the first time ever, nearly a million extra jobs since Jan 20th.

Which ever way you look at it, the economy in the US, is improving under a Trump Presidency. Think I will measure this as a performance indicator. Rather than rely on the liberal MSM.

I cannot be interested in something I don't believe. I just base my own opinions on the fact that Democrats have lost all Senate seat elections since Trumps inauguration. The last one having them spent tens of millions of dollars and the Republicans still beat them, must have stung having spent so much and still losing, sure Republican majorities shrank, but a win is still a win.

And to top it off you now got Democrats switching allegiances and becoming a Republican.
Job growth has slowed then? Much like American wage growth. Plus the stock market went up 140% under Obama admittedly for obvious reasons. I think approval ratings matter when they're this bad this early in a presidency, normally it takes president's much longer to become hated.

1andrew1 06-08-2017 08:40
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910973)
Stock market reaching record levels surpassing 22K for the first time ever, nearly a million extra jobs since Jan 20th.

Which ever way you look at it, the economy in the US, is improving under a Trump Presidency. Think I will measure this as a performance indicator. Rather than rely on the liberal MSM.

I cannot be interested in something I don't believe. I just base my own opinions on the fact that Democrats have lost all Senate seat elections since Trumps inauguration. The last one having them spent tens of millions of dollars and the Republicans still beat them, must have stung having spent so much and still losing, sure Republican majorities shrank, but a win is still a win.

And to top it off you now got Democrats switching allegiances and becoming a Republican.
Trump may be responsible for the country booming or it may be booming in spite of him, that's not the debate. Perceptions matter and the country feels that Trump is not performing well as a US president compared to his predecessors.
This website analyses all approval ratings which shows this.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35910924)
There is an inherent bias in almost anything. I don't believe they're radically biased in way a Fox News would be but the nature of their staff, their readers and their outlook tilts it more liberal than the overall United States.

But it's possible to have that bias and still strive to be honest. The problem to me is the increasing hyper-partisan 'press' where they're more activists than journalists. Infowars, The Canary or most other things that fall under the umbrella of 'alternative media', basically people who report whatever they want so long as it furthers their own agenda. Truth literally doesn't matter. They wouldn't follow a story for a year to make sure they have the evidence before printing.
Great post. I think that's what's more worrying is the way that this has crossed into some of the mainstream media, mostly due to journalistic cutbacks. The Express has always been opinionated but there would be degree of verification of the stories it published. Nowadays, it is happy to publish anything that supports its position even if it's from an obscure "expert".

Dude111 06-08-2017 08:53
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Originally Posted by Mick
I hope whoever leaked the transcripts to the pathetic liberal press, with a one sided agenda, go to jail.
I really wonder if they will ever be able to find out!!! (Unless the people he leaked it to tell)

1andrew1 06-08-2017 09:26
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 35910994)
I really wonder if they will ever be able to find out!!! (Unless the people he leaked it to tell)
Leak investigations are just another distraction technique. The main thing is the content of what's been leaked.

Hugh 06-08-2017 09:50
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910973)
Stock market reaching record levels surpassing 22K for the first time ever, nearly a million extra jobs since Jan 20th.

Which ever way you look at it, the economy in the US, is improving under a Trump Presidency. Think I will measure this as a performance indicator. Rather than rely on the liberal MSM.

I cannot be interested in something I don't believe. I just base my own opinions on the fact that Democrats have lost all Senate seat elections since Trumps inauguration. The last one having them spent tens of millions of dollars and the Republicans still beat them, must have stung having spent so much and still losing, sure Republican majorities shrank, but a win is still a win.

And to top it off you now got Democrats switching allegiances and becoming a Republican.
Jim Justice was a registered Republican until February 2015 - he's just switched back.

1andrew1 06-08-2017 09:52
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35911011)
Jim Justice was a registered Republican until February 2015 - he's just switched back.
I wonder for how long! :D

pip08456 06-08-2017 09:57
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35910959)
I get that you may not be interested in Trump's poor opinion rating but that doesn't mean it suddenly becomes a less valuable performance indicator.
Then according to that premis Macron is performing just as badly as Trump. His approval rating has dropped to 36%.


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