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Wow you contradicted yourself in the same post....

Whatever. Go find the posts, I am not doing the work for you. I got far more pressing issues to contend with than argue with you and let me say here and now, I have no obsession with anybody. I do enjoy political discussions be it UK politics or American and I like to point out issues of hypocrisy now and again, which there has been a lot of in this thread.

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The following is a list from the US Holocaust Museum titled "Early warnings signs of fascism".

It's a bit worrying to read this list and realise how many of these aspects Trump ticks or is close to. You only have to consider today's moves by Trump to allow church leaders to endorse politicians and to appreciate that it ticks the box of "Religion and government intertwined"

The list from the US Holocaust Museum reads:
- Powerful and continuing nationalism
- Disdain for human rights
- Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
- Supremacy of the military
- Rampant sexism
- Controlled mass media
- Obsession with national security
- Religion and government intertwined
- Corporate power protected
- Labor power suppressed
- Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
- Obsession with crime and punishment
- Rampant cronyism and corruption
- Fraudulent elections
http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/31/stark-...s-day-6417633/

James O'Brien does a good piece on it here.

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Muslim ban no new thing for Kuwait

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/ne...rity-countries

Is it ok for these then, you know a bit like black people using the N word.

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Enjoy this absolute gem. https://www.facebook.com/FilmingCops...5974309437661/

Two presidents talking clear crap about what they'll actually do.. when the third guy actually does something about it, everyone loses their minds, brilliant.

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Are you serious?! Are you really that blinkered? :shocked:

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It's because people object to what he is doing. Also it's rather disingenuous to pretend, as you and this video are doing, that immigration controls are the same as complete bans and, as was the case at the weekend, extending that ban to legal immigrants.

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Perhaps instead of contradicting I'm just not pig headed enough to ignore others feelings (yours) and accepted that posting about his little hands three times since the beginning of January (prior to our interaction) is to much for some to accept, it's hardly an obsession or barely even annoying for that matter imo

And no I won't be finding any posts, if you say you say you were critical of his thin skinnedness and insecurities on here then your words good enough for me.

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The context in which a word is used can change it's impact. White people using the N word has a negative history as it was a racial slur used against black people, especially in American history.

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Ah, but "we" don't like the third guy. That's the difference :rolleyes:

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So similar to those who voted remain adopting the insulting term used by the Brexit press of remoaner, but in an ironical way? :)

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Given that the vast majority of the video uses the term illegal aliens and illegal immigrants and near 70% of the illegal's in the US originate from Latin American countries, Mexico being as high as 50%. With consistent mentions of deportation and law breaking, something Trump echoed throughout his campaign. I used this in reference to the wall he's building, nothing to do with any Muslim ban. Trumps stance on the Mexican border and his stance on immigration from the middle east should be viewed as two separate things, you can agree with one and not the other.

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Yeah yeah,

I know the point is Kuwait have a ban like this for ages, and I bet no one knew, as it isn't news worthy apparently.

So is it ok for Muslims to ban muslims? But not for America to ban muslims.......( even though they're not banning muslims as such)

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The larger backlash has been because of the 'ban'. The wall I don't care as much about, I am not sure how effective it will be though and the 'make Mexico pay for it' jargon isn't helpful. Stopping illegal immigration is, almost by definition, a goal for all governments. Almost any migration policy, even very liberal ones, will have some definition of an illegal immigrant.

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Not really. That just the insults of the playground. If you can't debate, insult (like a child) :)

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Putin is worse than Trump, and that's why the rumoured Russian interference in the election worries me. I don't know if the Russians did the hack, but I've seen fairly compelling evidence it was a nation state. The same hack that caught Podesta was tried on nearly 1800 email accounts, the bulk of which belonged to senior people in various militaries, NATO and various governments. The sort of people that the teenage hacker in his bedroom (that Trump said it was) would have absolutely no interest in.

I've read (and have no proof either way) that the hacks used bear the same hallmarks as several Russian state sponsored hacks.

The reason it concerns me is that IF Putin helped Trump win, there will be a cost, and from what I've read about Putin, if he did order the hack on the Democrats, it's likely they also hacked both the Republicans and the Trump Organisation, so he possibly has a lot of compromising material he can release. How far will the Republicans and Trump go to prevent this?