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He has been found guilty of something the FA disciplinary committee have decided he is guilty of. The club know what evidence has been lodged against the player, what's missing at this point is their interpretation of the evidence which forms their judgement.

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I am not answering that question because it has nothing to do with the issue at hand and is a straw man argument.

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Yes, The FA decided he was guilty after a long process. Professional football clubs in the UK are subject to the FA's rules and practises. Every club in the country have to abide by them and following their disciplinary procedures if they fall foul of those rules.

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The FA cannot be allowed to make such decisions that will lead to damaging consequences for an individual or his family, that is the problem. If Suarez or any other player for that matter is stands accused of abusing another individual on the basis of their racial background then it is a criminal matter and should be dealt with as such. The wording of the FA charge can be interpreted as: might be racist but might not, either way we think it's against our rules while they have the audacity to stand there and thump the anti-racism tub.

This is exactly why the club have reacted as they have. The shock for everyone is that a club has actually stood up to the FA.

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No they accused him of using racist language. He admitted to using the words but disputes the context. It appears the FA spent a lot of time consulting spanish and south american language experts to judge the context.

No. Chelsea did the same, stuck up for their player. They managed to do so without attacking the accusers or Anton Ferdinand.

The shock is how Liverpool questioned Evra's character despite Suárez's admission he did say the word. Even if you believe everything Liverpool had said, Evra was not to know about the 'South American meaning' of the word he used. So why Liverpool still decided to attack him in an official press release is beyond me.

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The Patrice Evra who insulted Suarez with a derogatory term based on his origin and is not facing a similar charge?

ok then

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Ah so Evra did do it even though there is even less evidence of that incident than the Suarez one? Liverpool seem to have suddenly found his issue but I don't believe for a moment they are concerned with the issue of racism given the way they have conducted this entire affair, they just want to get their player off the hook.

If a team member of Arsenal was accused of racism I would expect the club to defend him until found guilty. I would be ashamed if they went after the accuser.

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Well there's not exactly a lack of evidence as Evra himself admitted what he had said. This is not a case of getting the player off-the-hook, it's a case of him clearing his name.

I don't believe that the FA are serious about anything other than pursuing their war against Sepp Blatter after the World Cup bid debacle and the way they conducted themselves over that.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16295932.stm







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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16300935.stm

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So Suarez called Evra a 'negro' or words to that effect. He then admits saying it, but his arguments were a) it's not so bad to use it in Uraguay, and b) all Evra's Utd team mates would say the same. I doubt anyone at Utd calls Evra a negro.

The FA charged and found Suarez guilty of using offensive language. So what will Suarez's appeal be based on considering he admitted to using those words. Also its important to note that he has also played in Holland, where such language would more than likely be termed as offensive too.

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The irony is if he was black (or non-white) there would be people queuing up to say "you're in Britain now, learn our customs or leave" etc

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Suarez has admitted using that language that the FA have penalised him for. He's just disputing it was offensive! He might have been accused by Evra but he has admitted to saying it.

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Here are a couple of articles on the Evra/Suarez affair explaining things a bit better.

http://www.kopsource.com/why-culture...racism-ruling/

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...better-but-his

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I would saying that refering to you own team mate, for example as the "Black Boss", cannot be used to justify calling an oponent (who's more than likely not your mate), blacky.... (which the term negrita can mean). He can't use the excuse of it being ok in his culture. He should have known (and most probably would have known) that he can't get away with using those words against evra. The only thing I think he can appeal against is the length of the ban.

Personally I hope the FA raise it for a stupid appeal.

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and if Evra had used a Spanish word for South American which can only be used in the most objectionable, racially abusive context?

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Then he should get a 8 match ban as well. It appears the FA are not convinced by the evidence for that however.