Cable Forum - General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.

Assuming that BT wants to make the channels available to XL customers and assuming XL customers want to start paying extra for sports channels initially added "at no extra cost". Clearly, the ESPN channels have been attractive to the sports fans on the XL package but it would be difficult to sell any increase in price to the many subscribers not interested in sport.

If VM want to provide the BT sports channels on their XL package, I have no doubt that this is what VM will do. BT will set the price, but surely it is up to VM how they package this for their viewers.

BT will want VM to be taking BT Sports because they have considerable costs to recoup and I don't think their shareholders will be very pleased if they missed an opportunity to offset those costs by having the channel on another platform.

As for 'selling' any price increase to VM customers, maybe that's what the latest price hike was all about!

Ryan92

03-03-2013 15:28

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I'm really hoping for the ITV channels in HD! I already get STV HD, so having at least ITV2 HD will be a bonus for me :)

Fingers crossed anyway.

OLD BOY

03-03-2013 15:30

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35543428)

How much of a cut do you honestly think Netflix are willing to give up on a subscription that costs Â£5.99 , I'm sure the profit margins aren't massive too start with.

They would charge wholesale prices, and VM may even add charges of their own. For the convenience of having all this on the TIVO box, it would be worth it.

If BT Sports are to be on offer to us as a subscription, the money they save on the ESPN arrangements as part of the XL pack could just be diverted to make a Netflix deal possible.

There are various ways that VM could make this a viable proposition that would attract customers to its platform and prevent existing customers from leaving. I hope that this all becomes clear by the time BT Sports starts broadcasting.

Dave42

03-03-2013 15:31

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35543732)

And I'm sure they still will in the not to distant future.

and things will get lot worse if they ever do IMHO I hope they dont

passingbat

03-03-2013 15:59

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35543824)

They would charge wholesale prices, and VM may even add charges of their own. For the convenience of having all this on the TIVO box, it would be worth it.

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I don't see that as the case. You can get neat, small form factor media players from around Â£60 upwards that will do Netflix. Netflix is on many new blueray players and TVs, so I don't understand why people are hanging around, waiting for netflix to be added to Tivo.

But also, and a very important consideration, Netflix really comes into it's own when used with a service such as Unblockus, which allows access to the other netflix regions' catalogue. You won't be able to use the unblockus type service on a Netflix Tivo app.

Chad	03-03-2013 16:16

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35543846)

Netflix is on many new blueray players and TVs, so I don't understand why people are hanging around, waiting for netflix to be added to Tivo.

Got to agree. I've got access to Netflix and Lovefilm via my smart TV, my blu-ray player, my Wii, my Xbox, my PC, my iPad and my mobile. I know not everyone will have these options however most homes in the UK do have access to at the very least one if not two of these devices.

Media Boy UK

03-03-2013 16:17

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Originally Posted by Ryan92 (Post 35543821)

I'm really hoping for the ITV channels in HD! I already get STV HD, so having at least ITV2 HD will be a bonus for me :)

Fingers crossed anyway.

If the rumours are true ITV2 HD will be launching soon on Virgin Media.

(Still waiting for an insider to confirmed if true or not)

denphone

03-03-2013 16:18

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35543858)

If the rumours are true ITV2 HD will be launching soon on Virgin Media.

(Still waiting for an insider to confirmed if true or not)

What about ITV3 HD and ITV4 HD?.

Media Boy UK

03-03-2013 16:21

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35543859)

What about ITV3 HD and ITV4 HD?.

If the rumours are true ITV3 HD and ITV4 HD will also be launching soon on Virgin Media.

(Again still waiting for an insider to confirmed if true or not)

Here is the latest rumours I have:

COMING SOON TO VIRGIN MEDIA (NOT CONFIRMED):

ITV2 HD (Soon).
Virgin Media may launch ITV2 HD on Virgin Channel 176 soon.

ITV3 HD (Soon).
Virgin Media may launch ITV3 HD on Virgin Channel 177 soon.

ITV4 HD (Soon).
Virgin Media may launch ITV4 HD on Virgin Channel 178 soon.

Animal Planet HD (Soon).
Virgin Media may launch Animal Planet HD on Virgin Channel 217 soon.

Universal Channel HD (Soon).
Virgin Media may launch Universal Channel HD soon.

E! HD (Soon).
Virgin Media may launch E! HD soon.

denphone

03-03-2013 16:29

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Thank MB.

JustaBloke

03-03-2013 16:42

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35543824)

Ahh I get it. Those of us that don't want a TiVo have to pay for those who do. There may be various ways that VM could make it a viable proposition, but that isn't one of them.

spj20016

03-03-2013 17:21

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Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35543864)

Ahh I get it. Those of us that don't want a TiVo have to pay for those who do. There may be various ways that VM could make it a viable proposition, but that isn't one of them.

So because you don't want TiVo, VM should not do any deals for us that do have one. That sounds fair. I don't like sport but I don't say ESPN should not be in the XL pack because I don't want it.

Jameseh

03-03-2013 17:25

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Netflix should not be given any money by Virgin, nor would they setup a new business model other than the brilliant Â£6 flat rate.

Like with the European 3DS, if Netflix had any intention of porting their US app they would have done so by now.

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