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MalteseFalcon 07-09-2014 12:06

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Thank you for the answer.

Mr Angry 07-09-2014 12:46

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Panic stations! All hands on deck etc, etc, etc.

"Scotland offered increased powers as parties unite to rally no voters.
George Osborne says country will get more say in its own tax, spending and welfare after surge in support for yes campaign".

All of the tough talking rhetoric on welfare and the NHS in recent weeks won't have helped.

Cardigan.

Hom3r 07-09-2014 13:28

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
One of the rags said on it front pafe that if there is a YES vote a border control would be set in place.

Which could mean if you live in Scotland and you work in England, and you have committed certain offences you could possible refused entry in to England/UK.

techguyone 07-09-2014 13:29

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Why?!?!?! Don't the Govt get it,the more they offer & give, the more will be demanded. Jesus, let the Scottish go Indy if they want it, but just refuse all the stupid conditions. Has no one in power got any backbone these days. How hard can it be to say No.

Stephen 07-09-2014 13:58

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
I really hope these latest polls are just a blip and that common sense prevails and more people will choose to vote no on the day.

Mr Angry 07-09-2014 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35727117)
One of the rags said on it front pafe that if there is a YES vote a border control would be set in place. Which could mean if you live in Scotland and you work in England, and you have committed certain offences you could possible refused entry in to England/UK.

This would, of course, work both ways.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35727118)
Why?!?!?! Don't the Govt get it,the more they offer & give, the more will be demanded. Jesus, let the Scottish go Indy if they want it, but just refuse all the stupid conditions. Has no one in power got any backbone these days. How hard can it be to say No.

As Chris said earlier, the Canadian solution is looking ever more likely.

Osem 07-09-2014 17:26

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Apparently the competition is neck and 'eck... :)

Derek 07-09-2014 17:33

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
It seems the yougov weighting has turned a 53:47 in favour of the Union into a yes majority.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/09/41.jpg

Damien 07-09-2014 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35727171)
It seems the yougov weighting has turned a 53:47 in favour of the Union into a yes majority.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/09/41.jpg

This isn't unusual. You can't use unweighted samples because it distorts the results. In that one especially they seem to have a lot of English born voters.

LondonRoad 07-09-2014 19:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35727201)
. In that one especially they seem to have a lot of English born voters.

How can you tell that? ;)

Mr Pharmacist 07-09-2014 20:07

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
In all honesty, I think it's quite silly to read anything into a survey of 1084 people, especially when another one says the opposite to it.

Pierre 07-09-2014 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35727083)
I think that common sense would prevail and there would be a currency union.

Only if there was an oil union. If it's their pound too, it's our oil too

---------- Post added at 20:25 ---------- Previous post was at 20:21 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35727234)
In all honesty, I think it's quite silly to read anything into a survey of 1084 people, especially when another one says the opposite to it.

The referendum is potentially 5 million voters. 1084 voters doesn't really cut it in my book.

Damien 07-09-2014 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35727234)
In all honesty, I think it's quite silly to read anything into a survey of 1084 people, especially when another one says the opposite to it.

The Panelbase isn't that different really. A point or two off when you consider margin of error. The survey's are constructed to represent the population at large, hence sampling and weighting. They're usually pretty accurate.

nomadking 07-09-2014 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35727241)
Only if there was an oil union. If it's their pound too, it's our oil too ---------- Post added at 20:25 ---------- Previous post was at 20:21 ---------- The referendum is potentially 5 million voters. 1084 voters doesn't really cut it in my book.

Isn't the "Yes" argument the other way around? IE Because it's supposedly also Scotland's Pound that currency union is automatically there as a result of that.

Damien 07-09-2014 21:11

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Article as to why Scottish Independence isn't to be welcomed down South: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29103437

Quote:

So in a UK whose prospects are shrouded, sterling is likely to fall some more, and - the really irksome thing - the cost of capital for borrowers north and south of the border is likely to rise.

Which would mean businesses would invest less and consumers would spend less for just as long as it was impossible to see the shape and strength of the rest of the UK's economy and that of Scotland.


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