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Damien 01-10-2025 12:21

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
This is why you don't let lawyers create countries. Far too smart for their own good.

Maggy 01-10-2025 14:57

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36203308)
I'm starting to get the feeling that he deliberately spouts a load of old bollox because he knows the media will lap it up.

Yep!

Anonymouse 04-10-2025 03:23

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Now the Guardian is asking when generals are going to stand up to Trump - especially as his using military forces for law enforcement is illegal.

Um...well, they should, I agree, but the problem there is that nutter or not, he is the Commander-In-Chief of the US Armed Forces. Disobeying the orders of your superior officer is, by definition, mutiny, and they don't come any more superior than the C-in-C.

Anyone want to bet he wouldn't declare martial law or something and have them shot? Wouldn't put it past him.

Unless they find the same courage Data did in "Redemption", that is.

Not likely, though, not in an army which (as Heinlein pointed out in the '50s!) has insignia distinguishing officers who have led men in combat from officers who haven't.

OTOH, it is their duty to refuse illegal orders. We'll see.

(And once again in case Big Brother is reading, UP YOURS, ECHELON!) :p:

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

- Commander William Adama
Battlestar Galactica 2003

Is it me, or is that the way the world's going?

Paul 04-10-2025 03:34

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I thought he was using the National Guard ?
They are state based militias, not quite the same as the main US military.

Hugh 04-10-2025 08:26

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36204060)
I thought he was using the National Guard ?
They are state based militias, not quite the same as the main US military.

Except in DC, only the State Governors can call in the National Guard.

Trump also sent 700 Marines into California, and the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the military from engaging in domestic law enforcement without permission from Congress.

thenry 07-10-2025 17:38

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Trump's pushing Mark Carney on the 51st state but Carney firmly said no so they are competing over investment which wouldn't be the case if Canada were the cherished 51 state.

1andrew1 07-10-2025 20:11

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204275)
Trump's pushing Mark Carney on the 51st state but Carney firmly said no so they are competing over investment which wouldn't be the case if Canada were the cherished 51 state.

The Canadian people don't want it to happen so this rather whacky idea is dead in the water. It's just a matter of years before Trump is no longer President, and things get back to a more normal status. Hopefully, he'll have brought peace to the Middle East and Europe before he goes.

thenry 07-10-2025 20:13

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What is normal?

1andrew1 07-10-2025 20:23

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204313)
What is normal?

Not staking claim to Canada and Greenland and having trade deals that alter by the minute.

Mr K 07-10-2025 20:27

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204313)
What is normal?

Don't think we'll ever get back normal whilst the muggles keep falling for populists like Trump/Farage/Boris. Then complain that everything is t*ts up, and vote for the next populist. Rinse, repeat, the world is screwed.

thenry 07-10-2025 20:28

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Life changes in any moment and anybody would like to be somewhere else. It's normal behaviour.

I think you mean somebody barking orders. I'm still soo very happy that America did not force Harris on the world :nutter:

Mr K 07-10-2025 20:36

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204318)
Life changes in any moment and anybody would like to be somewhere else. It's normal behaviour.

I think you mean somebody barking orders. I'm still soo very happy that America did not force Harris on the world :nutter:

Why ? How has the US election affected Crawley/yourself?

Pierre 07-10-2025 20:40

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36204317)
Don't think we'll ever get back normal whilst the muggles keep falling for populists like Trump/Farage/Boris. Then complain that everything is t*ts up, and vote for the next populist. Rinse, repeat, the world is screwed.

You left Kier out of that list, although he clearly belongs on it.

Damien 07-10-2025 20:43

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36204322)
You left Kier out of that list, although he clearly belongs on it.

Starmer isn't a populist, though. He's much more of an (ineffective) technocrat. Corbyn was a populist.

thenry 07-10-2025 20:44

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36204320)
Why ? How has the US election affected Crawley/yourself?

I like world peace. Figureheads that bark orders like they themselves are perfect is beyond acceptable behaviour. It's not peaceful. It's very disturbing.

Bullshit rhetoric. Everybody is bad except me. Piss off! Thank God she's not president!!!


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