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nomadking 19-09-2025 10:28
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36202933)
I know - if only someone had negotiated to keep the Dublin III Regulation as part of a deal…
The regulation where we had to accept more than twice the rate of incoming requests than any other country? 2018 figures 63% for UK, 30% for Germany. And among the lowest rate of successful outgoing request, 4% for UK, Greece 108%. We may have been able to send 209 to the EU, but had to accept 1,215. 1 out, 6 in.
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Now if we had figures like Greece, it might be a good idea, 18 in, 5,447 out.

Carth 19-09-2025 11:17
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36202928)

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But at least one inflatable dinghy full of young men made its way out to sea from Gravelines beach, north east Calais, at daybreak on Friday morning.
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Oh good, that will hopefully be the Doctors and Dentists we need.

1andrew1 19-09-2025 13:36
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36202941)
Oh good, that will hopefully be the Doctors and Dentists we need.
Maybe.
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Foreign-born UK residents are much more likely to be of working age than the UK-born — and thus less of a fiscal burden. They tend to be healthier than the UK-born, and are much more likely to have a university degree. Seventy-five per cent of them have lived in the UK for more than five years and 90 per cent speak good English. None of this suggests that immigration is likely to usher in any sort of financial, social or cultural calamity.
https://www.ft.com/content/d41900d4-...a-7184dcf62984

nomadking 19-09-2025 14:09
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36202958)
When they become older, what then? Just because they came here as "working age", doesn't mean they remain that way. Then add in those born to foreign-born parents. 37.3% of those born in 2023 in England and Wales.
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So that's each year.

Carth 19-09-2025 14:12
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OK Andrew, at least you're trying ;)

Now be honest, how many on that boat (if it actually exists) will speak decent English, have their passports in hand, full details of previous occupations, a complete file on their medical history, and a full checkable list of their higher education?

:p:

Paul 19-09-2025 14:15
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36202961)
Now be honest, how many on that boat (if it actually exists) will speak decent English, have their passports in hand, full details of previous occupations, a complete file on their medical history, and a full checkable list of their higher education?
None of them.

No doubt the ones referred to by Andrew are those entering the UK legally, not those coming over illegally on boats.

Carth 19-09-2025 14:27
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Agreed, yet Andrew posted a reply regarding the chaps on boats.

or was it just deflection? ;)

papa smurf 19-09-2025 14:40
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36202941)
Oh good, that will hopefully be the Doctors and Dentists we need.
or pizza delivery professionals

Sephiroth 19-09-2025 15:03
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36202963)
Agreed, yet Andrew posted a reply regarding the chaps on boats.

or was it just deflection? ;)
Deflection.

Hugh 19-09-2025 16:17
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202965)
Deflection.
Use your imagination…

papa smurf 19-09-2025 16:39
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GB news reporting 1 migrant out and 800 in today

Sephiroth 19-09-2025 17:05
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36202968)
GB news reporting 1 migrant out and 800 in today
What does Hugh think about that? And Andrew?

1andrew1 19-09-2025 17:46
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202969)
What does Hugh think about that? And Andrew?
"One migrant out" is there for deterrent purposes. If you think that you might be returned back to France, you may not set off in the first place.

Whether migrants perceive this to be a deterrent in reality, time will tell.

Sephiroth 19-09-2025 17:54
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36202972)
"One migrant out" is there for deterrent purposes. If you think that you might be returned back to France, you may not set off in the first place.

Whether migrants perceive this to be a deterrent in reality, time will tell.
You'd expect me to come back to you on this!

We're seeing the boats still coming. So, time has already told.

papa smurf 19-09-2025 18:00
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36202972)
"One migrant out" is there for deterrent purposes. If you think that you might be returned back to France, you may not set off in the first place.

Whether migrants perceive this to be a deterrent in reality, time will tell.
in reality it's a load of cobblers


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