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I can only see 174. ;)

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No food or drink should limit that :D

Did wonder though if there were any big buildings full of beds that are empty right now to put them up in. Maybe in the Excel Centre?

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good to see all those Lockdowns paying dvidends

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I’m likewise curious to see the evidence that HMG has based its vaccine procurement policy on the likely cost.

As far as I can see, the principal components of the portfolio the government pre-ordered are an mRNA vaccine by Pfizer-BioNTech and a viral vector vaccine by Oxford-AstraZeneca. The former is the riskier because it is novel technology so is more expensive (most expensive of the lot in fact). The alternative mRNA vaccine is produced by Moderna and is somewhat cheaper, however it is a bigger risk because Moderna has never produced a vaccine before now.

The UK government procurement strategy appears to have been based on calculating risk and investing in a way that hedges against that risk. Despite the portfolio being biased towards the much cheaper Oxford vaccine, if the overall strategy had been driven by cost you would have expected them to lay their riskier bet with the cheaper Moderna mRNA vaccine as the EU did, rather than Pfizer.

It’s worth noting, on the subject of the Moderna vaccine, that when they announced their excellent trial results a few days after Pfizer, there was much shrill squealing from the usual suspects at how the EU had preordered that one and we hadn’t. To date, the Moderna vaccine has only been approved in the USA (at the end of last week). It won’t be approved in the EU before 6 January. The Pfizer vaccine was approved in the EU yesterday - almost 3 weeks behind the UK. Something that should be repeated loudly and often.

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They were already high.
Link
The previous figures made it look like the rates were dropping, when they weren't really.
Wales only.

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Glasgow is still available for use if required. At present it’s being used as a training hub and for outpatient clinics.

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l don't think they are using them because they simply don't have the enough available trained staff to staff them.

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Given the draconian measures taken by the gov one would imagine they are full to bursting, but we all know they aren't.

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Bolleaux.

They’re not using them because the regular hospitals haven’t exceeded capacity. The Nightingales are for emergency use if covid cases start overwhelming regular ICU provision. Nobody wants to start lining patients up in a conference centre unless they have to.

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Actually some local Kent Sikhs and the Kent Police are about to deliver them some cooked hot meals and drinks.

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Just to set the mood . . I wonder if the figure quoted is obtained in a similar fashion to the 'died within 28 days of a positive test' that we keep seeing?

for example, a chap in hospital with gallstones, that has tested positive yet is asymptomatic, could very easily be classed as a hospital patient 'with Covid'

not that I'm at all suggesting 'data' is being used in such a way to support the ongoing frenzy ;)

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Very kind of them, and the poor sods must stink by now stuck in a small space with no facilities.

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So this is bolleaux then..

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...tage-jlr26p6kf

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Nope, your earlier post is bolleaux.

The Times’ claim that “some may never fully open because of staff shortage” is rather different to yours, “l don't think they are using them because they simply don't have the available trained staff to staff them,” though I suspect it too is wide of the mark.

It’s blindingly obvious that these places couldn’t operate at full capacity based on existing NHS human resource. Where exactly would all those people be working right now? If things got so bad that the Nightingales got anywhere near busy we would be right into civil contingencies territory, and probably deploying every field medic in the armed forces to help out.

The answer to Seph’s question is that they have been used as required, and in the case of Glasgow at least, it is being used to train staff and to provide outpatient services away from regular hospitals.