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Mick 01-02-2017 16:20
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35883497)
To see what's the more impressive petition. 1.8 million of one linked to be the media or 200,000 for one that wasn't. Gotta nail a formula.
I take that then that you agree that the Media has displayed a negative bias towards Trump and they have failed in their objectives to issue balanced news, as it should be?

Damien 01-02-2017 16:32
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35883498)
I take that then that you agree that the Media has displayed a negative bias towards Trump and they have failed in their objectives to issue balanced news, as it should be?
I was just having fun about comparing the petitions. Generally people challenging governments get more attention than those praising them. "People approve of government policy" is never as newsworthy irrespective of who that government is.

If you have a policy where even legal residents were sent away then that's going to get more attention even if some people approve of it.

pip08456 01-02-2017 16:50
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
I like May's last words, "He can lead a protest, I am leading a country".

Priceless.

Osem 01-02-2017 16:58
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Corbyn can't even lead his own party.

martyh 01-02-2017 17:41
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35883490)
I thought Theresa May at PMQ's today was the strongest I have ever seen her be. She was expected to be on the defensive but came out on the offensive to blithering idiot Corbyn:



About 1 Minute 14 Secs in, Corbyn's question and TM excellent come back.

Sound quality is a bit poor.



Someone needs to tell idiot Corbyn that while 1,8 Million people may have signed that petition in the UK, that amount of people does not represent the remaining 68 Million other people who haven't signed it and over 200,000 have now signed a petition wanting the State visit to remain, 200K is quite good to say it's not been linked to by the media like the Anti-Trump one was.
When something has been announced to happen ,like Trumps visit,it's seems a bit silly having a petition to say you want it ,the idea is to have a petition objecting something

Mick 01-02-2017 17:51
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35883503)
Corbyn can't even lead his own party.
He is weak overall - he started off in PMQ's today by going on about a book/paper on Awkwardness, referring to May's Washington DC visit, however she threw the Awkwardness back in his face by describing the amount of MP's who keep resigning from the Labour Party. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35883507)
When something has been announced to happen ,like Trumps visit,it's seems a bit silly having a petition to say you want it ,the idea is to have a petition objecting something
It's more a counter petition, as we know the visit is going ahead either way. I have not signed it for the record.

Damien 01-02-2017 17:53
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
He is awful. Even his more fanatical supporters are losing the faith. At PMQs his biggest problem is an inability to pivot or think on his feet, it's rather slow-witted, and he continues on his course of questioning irrespective of the answers. So when May has successfully diverted the line of attack he fruitlessly continues anyway, when she makes a mistake (and she is worse than Cameron at this) he fails to notice it.

He should also start asking different questions at the end. Twice now the Tories have a zinger line ready for after he has asked his final question, he should throw a random question at the end instead.

Pierre 01-02-2017 17:56
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35883507)
When something has been announced to happen ,like Trumps visit,it's seems a bit silly having a petition to say you want it ,the idea is to have a petition objecting something
Why,

You can have a petition to say you're in favour of something, especially when there is a movement to prevent it from happening.

Again it's democracy.

What is silly, is to say it's silly.

martyh 01-02-2017 17:58
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35883508)

It's more a counter petition, as we know the visit is going ahead either way. I have not signed it for the record.
Whatever we think of Trump it doesn't change the fact that both governments will have to work together in the coming years so to cancel the visit would simply get Trumps back up and to be honest the UK would look a bit petty,far better to get it over with and besides i am 100% certain that Maj can handle Trump

Damien 01-02-2017 17:58
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35883515)
Why,

You can have a petition to say you're in favour of something, especially when there is a movement to prevent it from happening.

Again it's democracy.

What is silly, is to say it's silly.
You can definitely have them. It's just it's generally less newsworthy. Also people are less motivated to be active when they're getting what they want.

heero_yuy 01-02-2017 18:33
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35883516)
Whatever we think of Trump it doesn't change the fact that both governments will have to work together in the coming years so to cancel the visit would simply get Trumps back up and to be honest the UK would look a bit petty,far better to get it over with and besides i am 100% certain that Maj can handle Trump
Can we expect Prince Philip to make some shrewd observation? :D

Chrysalis 01-02-2017 18:48
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35883513)
He is awful. Even his more fanatical supporters are losing the faith. At PMQs his biggest problem is an inability to pivot or think on his feet, it's rather slow-witted, and he continues on his course of questioning irrespective of the answers. So when May has successfully diverted the line of attack he fruitlessly continues anyway, when she makes a mistake (and she is worse than Cameron at this) he fails to notice it.

He should also start asking different questions at the end. Twice now the Tories have a zinger line ready for after he has asked his final question, he should throw a random question at the end instead.
In his first PMQs he made it clear he isnt there to trade insults and jokes so as such just asks the questions, whilst May is carrying on the tradition of just playing a comedy act to make people laugh at him.

I respect what he is trying to do, but sadly I think others will just fall for the act and see him as weak, it seems to be that for one to win PMQs you simly have to be good at not answering the questions you asked and to make people laugh at your opponent, I mean what relevance does whether corbyn is leading the country or not have to his question?

Also she needs to remember she was not elected by the electorate as leader, but inherited it from cameron.

Osem 01-02-2017 18:59
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35883525)
In his first PMQs he made it clear he isnt there to trade insults and jokes so as such just asks the questions, whilst May is carrying on the tradition of just playing a comedy act to make people laugh at him.

I respect what he is trying to do, but sadly I think others will just fall for the act and see him as weak, it seems to be that for one to win PMQs you simly have to be good at not answering the questions you asked and to make people laugh at your opponent, I mean what relevance does whether corbyn is leading the country or not have to his question?

Also she needs to remember she was not elected by the electorate as leader, but inherited it from cameron.
You mean like Gordon Brown did? All she needs to remember is that she's running the country and until Labour wake up and get shot of Corbyn there is going to be no credible opposition. They're the ones letting the country down.

martyh 01-02-2017 19:29
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35883521)
Can we expect Prince Philip to make some shrewd observation? :D
I reckon he'll defo mention the hair :D

heero_yuy 01-02-2017 19:31
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35883536)
I reckon he'll defo mention the hair :D
And the orangeness. :D


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