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Chris 06-09-2014 18:23

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35726952)
So there wasn't a debate in 2012 about whether or not the companies servicing the water storage in Wales should make a charge for the transport of it over the boarder?

Them's some vivid dreams I've been having ;)

That would depend entirely on what you mean by "debate". If you mean, some people spoke up and said that should happen, and other people spoke up and said it shouldn't, then yes, there was a "debate".

However, there is still a "debate" over whether the moon landings were faked. Just because someone says something, doesn't mean that it should be taken seriously. In the case of water, there is no legal framework that would allow for a charge to be made, purely and simply because it had crossed a border from Wales to England. The nature of any charge would be one company, based in England, paying a commercial charge for purchase of a product or service of another, based in Wales, but the fact that they were either side of a border would be entirely incidental.

Pierre 06-09-2014 21:33

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Questions.

1. What is their definition of a " fairer society"

2. What do they mean by " Scotland will get the government they vote for" a meaningless statement.

Certainly a percentage won't

3. If it's Scotland's pound too, surely it's rUK's oil too?

Damien 06-09-2014 21:36

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Yes has a two point lead in new YouGov poll.

Chris 06-09-2014 21:50

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Sigh. Looks like we're going to have to win this the Canadian way.

TheDaddy 06-09-2014 21:58

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35727000)
Sigh. Looks like we're going to have to win this the Canadian way.

You mean cheat :confused:

Damien 06-09-2014 22:10

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Can't be bothered anymore. Scotland have made it clear what they think of the Union, it's served it's purpose and now they want to leave.

Pierre 06-09-2014 22:55

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Thing is, and is probably hasn't argued, but I haven't seen any downsides for rUK should the scots bugger off.

thenry 06-09-2014 23:04

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Kevin Bridges: Live at the Referendum

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04h8kvx

lol

Damien 06-09-2014 23:05

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35727013)
Thing is, and is probably hasn't argued, but I haven't seen any downsides for rUK should the scots bugger off.

Disruptive to our economy. Our GDP drops. We'll be a smaller country with smaller clout.

Pierre 06-09-2014 23:21

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35727015)
Disruptive to our economy


Disruptive, but not detrimental, from what I've read.


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. Our GDP drops.
by how much, and for how long.? As I say, from what I have read, it won't be that massive an impact.


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We'll be a smaller country with smaller clout.
by land mass, economy or population?

I don't think losing 10% of the welfare hungry scots will be that big an issue

Damien 06-09-2014 23:24

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35727016)
Disruptive, but not detrimental, from what I've read.


by how much, and for how long.? As I say, from what I have read, it won't be that massive an impact.


by land mass, economy or population?

I don't think losing 10% of the welfare hungry scots will be that big an issue

Scotland is a net contributor to the UK. We'll lose out. It's the second most productive region after London and the South East.

Pierre 06-09-2014 23:28

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35727018)
Scotland is a net contributor to the UK. We'll lose out. It's the second most productive region after London and the South East.

"Region" I thought it was supposed to be a country.

I haven't seen the numbers, to argue the point and you have provided them. but I'd be very surprised if we were to be very worse off by cutting them loose.

Ignitionnet 07-09-2014 00:36

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35726959)
Just because someone says something, doesn't mean that it should be taken seriously.

Quite.

In other excellent news - http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/09/06/...poll-yes-lead/

nomadking 07-09-2014 00:39

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Won't Scotland and lose out on GDP and tax income, when certain companies move south?

Ignitionnet 07-09-2014 00:42

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35727019)
"Region" I thought it was supposed to be a country.

I haven't seen the numbers, to argue the point and you have provided them. but I'd be very surprised if we were to be very worse off by cutting them loose.

Varies from year to year, but they are way more 'productive' than Wales, Northern Ireland or most of England.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35727034)
Won't Scotland and lose out on GDP and tax income, when certain companies move south?

Yes.


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