Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

You are quite correct, just a year after record production. But hey, that was Harold Wilson.

Coal mining is a touchy subject but Scargill closed more pits than Thatcher.

OLD BOY

10-08-2021 09:03

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36089185)

Not sure that information - correct or otherwise - has any relevance.

I'm not sure why you fail to see the relevance. I know that Labour supporters would prefer to ignore this fact.

1andrew1

10-08-2021 10:46

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36089234)

I'm not sure why you fail to see the relevance. I know that Labour supporters would prefer to ignore this fact.

Why is it relevant which party closed the most mines? It's Johnson (Conservative) who claims that Thatcher (Conservative) closed mines due to global warming, not Starmer (Labour).

And as I've explained before, I've voted for all main parties in the UK and Thatcher was one of the best prime ministers we've had. She had her faults of course - poll tax, Hillsborough, etc but compared to recent prime ministers she towers above them.

Pierre

10-08-2021 10:52

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36089241)

I don't he "claimed", it was - as is usual with Boris - a poor attempt at humour.

Sephiroth

10-08-2021 10:56

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36089241)

Not too much of the "etc" please.

1andrew1

10-08-2021 13:41

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Report here that army has not been asked and its capacity would not cover the gap. Plus bin deliveries could be problematical as drivers move from rubbish collection to driving lorries. The Winter could be memorable for the wrong reasons.

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Bringing in army 'will not scratch the surface' of HGV driver shortage

The head of the Road Haulage Association tells Sky News he can see problems with refuse collection adding to the deteriorating consequences of the UK's HGV driver shortage.

..But Mr Burnett Head of Road Haulage Association] warned that even with any military assistance, the UK was still heading for a winter of worsening disruption as the busy Christmas season loomed.

He said: "This really isn't going to scratch the surface at all or give any reassurance that as things get worse during the summer, as drivers take more holidays and we've got no drivers to backfill, that this is really a resolution to the problem at all."

He added: "We're seeing the impact in the supermarkets, drivers that drive refuse vehicles are being attracted away by higher wages in many sectors, that's going to mean difficulties in terms of collecting waste."

Mr Burnett pointed to containers "stacking up" at ports as evidence the backlog was getting worse.

"We really need government to wake up and realise that the only short term solution here is to address this through the Home Office shortage occupation list and with temporary visas to allow us in the short-term additional labour in while we train a UK based workforce which is going to take at least 18 months to tackle."

https://news.sky.com/story/bringing-...rtage-12377823

RichardCoulter

10-08-2021 16:44

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Are there any other countries suffering shortages of staff/food who have also suffered from covid, but not gone through a withdrawal from the EU?

Knowing this should help us to decide if Brexit is a factor in this.

Also, is it possible to escape roaming charges by buying a local PAYG SIM? I suspect that they will all eventually bring roaming charges back.

1andrew1

10-08-2021 17:48

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Only this year that The Sun proudly proclaimed "Mobile phone operators will not bring back roaming charges for Brits travelling in Europe"
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/137043...-brits-europe/

Somewhat awkward for those easily-misled MPs then like Julian Knight who believed this nonsense and retweeted it with the comment "Another remoaner myth busted!" :dunce:
https://twitter.com/julianknight15/s...86213755109379

pip08456

10-08-2021 17:52

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36089297)

Misled by the mobile companies.

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Well, that was one of the fastest U-turns in history. Mobile operator Vodafone UK, which in June 2021 (here) told ISPreview.co.uk they had “no current plans to change our approach to roaming in the EU” (this after rival EE reintroduced roaming charges), has now decided to introduce such charges after all.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...g-charges.html

Carth

10-08-2021 18:12

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Absolutely awful isn't it, I mean fancy paying a few £k to go abroad on holiday and then finding you have to find an extra £10 to use your phone :rolleyes:

jfman

10-08-2021 18:26

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36089189)

You'll have stirred jfman, Andrew.

I’m happily retired in the Covid thread. ;)

OLD BOY

10-08-2021 18:38

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36089241)

It’s relevant simply because those who’ve exercised their right to be offended use Thatcher as their bogeyman because of pit closures. They don’t like to be reminded that Labour closed even more pits.

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