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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36063287)

Is there a secondary source for that claim in the Sun? The reference to declined doses in the EU I can find is this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idCNL8N2IW4G4

So they went for 200 million with an option for another 100 million at the same price

And that lines up to this report from a month before:

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/20...pfizer-vaccine

The EU is thus putting a price on life.

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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36063291)

What are the odds the Macron thing is about fishing rights?

It's definitely politically motivated.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36063293)

The EU is thus putting a price on life.

Yes, as the UK government will and have.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1777601.html

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EU commission calls for countries to drop ‘blanket travel bans’ on UK

The European Commission has called on EU member states to drop “blanket travel bans” against people coming from the UK.

The bans, imposed by some countries in light of reports of a new Covid strain in southern England, are causing significant disruption to trade flows at Channel ports and have left some British and EU citizens stranded ahead of Christmas.

But in a recommendation issued on Tuesday afternoon, Brussels said travel restrictions to prevent the spread of any new strain should have exemptions to prevent border disruption, which is wreaking havoc on trade flows.

“Given the current uncertainties and in light of the precautionary principle, member states should take coordinated action to discourage non-essential travel between the UK and the EU," Didier Reynders, the EU's justice commissioner, said.

"At the same time, blanket travel bans should not prevent thousands of EU and UK citizens from returning to their homes.

"While precautions are needed to contain the spread of the new coronavirus variant, with today's recommendation, we therefore ensure that the restrictions are coordinated and provide for the necessary exemptions for citizens and residents returning home and other essential travellers.”

In a statement the Commission said that while "all non-essential travel to and from the UK should be discouraged", other "essential travel and transit of passengers should be facilitated".

"Flight and train bans should be discontinued given the need to ensure essential travel and avoid supply chain disruptions," it added.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36063300)

Yes, as the UK government will and have.

No they have not. I do not agree their response to the pandemic has been robust as it should have been, but your ridiculous assertion that they have willingly let people die of Covid-19 at any cost, is without total merit.

I think we have pretty much done the opposite - spent an absolute fortune on lockdowns to avoid deaths, killing off many business's in the process.

BREAKING: Wales is now the highest increase of Covid-19 infection rates per Capita, in the World!

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/s...196231/photo/1

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36063305)

BREAKING: Wales is now the highest increase of Covid-19 infection rates per Capita, in the World!

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/s...196231/photo/1

Obviously they need to ban more alcohol and clothing items.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36063305)

BREAKING: Wales is now the highest increase of Covid-19 infection rates per Capita, in the World!

Perhaps the sheep are spreading it. :D

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36063302)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1777601.html

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EU commission calls for countries to drop ‘blanket travel bans’ on UK

The European Commission has called on EU member states to drop “blanket travel bans” against people coming from the UK.

The bans, imposed by some countries in light of reports of a new Covid strain in southern England, are causing significant disruption to trade flows at Channel ports and have left some British and EU citizens stranded ahead of Christmas.

But in a recommendation issued on Tuesday afternoon, Brussels said travel restrictions to prevent the spread of any new strain should have exemptions to prevent border disruption, which is wreaking havoc on trade flows.

“Given the current uncertainties and in light of the precautionary principle, member states should take coordinated action to discourage non-essential travel between the UK and the EU," Didier Reynders, the EU's justice commissioner, said.

"At the same time, blanket travel bans should not prevent thousands of EU and UK citizens from returning to their homes.

"While precautions are needed to contain the spread of the new coronavirus variant, with today's recommendation, we therefore ensure that the restrictions are coordinated and provide for the necessary exemptions for citizens and residents returning home and other essential travellers.”

In a statement the Commission said that while "all non-essential travel to and from the UK should be discouraged", other "essential travel and transit of passengers should be facilitated".

"Flight and train bans should be discontinued given the need to ensure essential travel and avoid supply chain disruptions," it added.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres.../en/ip_20_2520

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Following the rapid increase of COVID-19 cases in parts of England, of which a large proportion belongs to a new variant of the virus, the Commission today adopted a Recommendation on a coordinated approach to travel and transport measures. The recommendation builds on the Council Recommendation of 13 October on a coordinated approach to free movement in response to the COVID19-pandemic and several other guidance documents adopted by the Commission in the past months, in particular the Green Lanes Communication. While it is important to take swift temporary precautionary action to limit the further spread of the new strain of the virus and all non-essential travel to and from the UK should be discouraged, essential travel and transit of passengers should be facilitated. Flight and train bans should be discontinued given the need to ensure essential travel and avoid supply chain disruptions...

... Until the end of December, free movement rules still apply to the UK. This means that Member States should not in principle refuse the entry of persons travelling from the UK. After the end of the transition period, the UK will be subject to Council Recommendation on the temporary restriction on non-essential travel into the EU and the possible lifting of such restriction...

... Next Steps

In line with Article 126 of the Agreement on the Withdrawal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union and the European Atomic Energy Community, the transition period agreed by the parties will expire on 31 December 2020.

As of 1 January 2021, the United Kingdom will become a third country and Member States shall start applying the Recommendation on the temporary restriction on non-essential travel to the EU to persons travelling from the UK, in view of the end of the transition period. Accordingly, in principle only essential travel may take place from the United Kingdom. In order to benefit from an exemption from this general travel restriction, the Council would need to decide to add the United Kingdom to the list of third countries whose residents should not be affected by temporary external borders restriction on non-essential travel to the EU. The list is reviewed regularly by Member States in the Council.

However, this limitation to essential travel shall not apply to Union citizens resident in the UK and UK nationals who are long-term residents in an EU Member States under the Long-term Residence Directive, independent of the purpose of travel.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36063305)

BREAKING: Wales is now the highest increase of Covid-19 infection rates per Capita, in the World!

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/s...196231/photo/1

Misrepresentation. There was a big dump of figures.

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Wales is set to add another 11,000 positive tests to its figures after system maintenance meant there was a "significant under reporting".

Public Health Wales (PHW) says the "very large backlog" of COVID-19 cases were processed at Lighthouse Laboratories between 9 and 15 December.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...nance-12165127

Holy cow, that's a lot of trucks - https://news.sky.com/video/brexit-lo...ypark-12169972

Let's hope this can be cleared so these poor drivers can get home soon

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36063300)

Yes, as the UK government will and have.

Where's your evidence for that, Ben?

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36063313)

Holy cow, that's a lot of trucks - https://news.sky.com/video/brexit-lo...ypark-12169972

Let's hope this can be cleared so these poor drivers can get home soon

You have to worry about what they are doing about the toilet. Numbers ones is dealable with, number twos a different ball game....

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36063317)

You have to worry about what they are doing about the toilet. Numbers ones is dealable with, number twos a different ball game....

There are strategically placed bushes.