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Niles Crane 28-05-2011 23:01

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35246917)
Even the greatest teams can have jaded patches.

Well clearly. That doesn't negate my point.

Russ 28-05-2011 23:03

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35246923)
Well clearly. That doesn't negate my point.

No, but it does weaken it.

Barcelona on an average day would hold most good teams on their best. With the fluidity they showed tonight no Premiership team would have beaten them.

idi banashapan 28-05-2011 23:07

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35246926)
No, but it does weaken it.

Barcelona on an average day would hold most good teams on their best. With the fluidity they showed tonight no Premiership team would have beaten them.

agreed. when they play, it truly is a beautiful game. well played Barcelona. an extremely well deserved win tonight. it was just a shame the game was only 90 minutes - I could have happily continued to watch them for a lot longer.

Niles Crane 28-05-2011 23:09

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35246926)
No, but it does weaken it.

Barcelona on an average day would hold most good teams on their best. With the fluidity they showed tonight no Premiership team would have beaten them.

Of course. I highly doubt any Premier League team would beat Real Madrid at their best either.

You could say the same about Man United within England or any other dominate team anyway. That doesn't mean Real Madrid/Arsenal/Hercules or whoever won merely because of luck though.

adzii_nufc 28-05-2011 23:11

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I agree with the applause for Barcelona but please do stop making it look like they were 'Gods'

They were brilliant but Manchester United contributed to Barca's display by leaving a few players at home.

Notably, Valencia (Non existent throughout), Hernandez had an absolute shocker and spent the opening 45 minutes offside and the other 45 doing nothing. Ryan Giggs was also non existent for the entirety.

I'm a Toon fan and obviously I'm a bit disappointed because like any true English football fan you root for the English side!

Messi is a fantastic player and all credit too him but the defending tonight made him look twice the player he is! First 10 minutes they marked him properly and chased him down every time! He barely touched the ball in this period because of the excellent marking.. The other 80 minutes however were a whole lot different and he was allowed to run anywhere he pleased. You simply cannot afford to just let him run at you for 40 yards whilst backing off.

My list of top performers in that match.

Lionel Messi
Wayne Rooney
Park Ji Sung
Carrick
Pedro
Dani Alves

Niles Crane 28-05-2011 23:16

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35246934)
I agree with the applause for Barcelona but please do stop making it look like they were 'Gods'

They were brilliant but Manchester United contributed to Barca's display by leaving a few players at home.

Notably, Valencia (Non existent throughout), Hernandez had an absolute shocker and spent the opening 45 minutes offside and the other 45 doing nothing. Ryan Giggs was also non existent for the entirety.

I'm a Toon fan and obviously I'm a bit disappointed because like any true English football fan you root for the English side!

Messi is a fantastic player and all credit too him but the defending tonight made him look twice the player he is! First 10 minutes they marked him properly and chased him down every time! He barely touched the ball in this period because of the excellent marking.. The other 80 minutes however were a whole lot different and he was allowed to run anywhere he pleased. You simply cannot afford to just let him run at you for 40 yards whilst backing off.

My list of top performers in that match.

Lionel Messi
Wayne Rooney
Park Ji Sung
Carrick
Pedro
Dani Alves

Yeah. Right.

idi banashapan 28-05-2011 23:20

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regardless of whether or not Man U turned up tonight, the team that was there got a lesson in football. how many times did you see Barca hoof the ball up the field, or hit-and-hope? I think I saw Abidal clear it 2 maybe 3 times towards the end of the game by putting his boot through it. Man U seemed to try the long, 50/50 ball almost every time they had possession. in fact, I think Barca only tried putting the ball in once from the many corners they had - that's how in control they are. they play fast, close passes. if they didn't think 100% that it will get to a team mate, they didn't play that ball. they were calm, never rushed and were back defending in numbers very fast. nani was surrounded by at least 2 players any time he had the ball, and that was at the end of 90 minutes. if they could get 3 players around a man u shirt with the ball, they did it. Man U were totally in the shadow of Barca. Gods? maybe not. Messengers? probably.

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Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35246941)
Yeah. Right.

lol - agreed. as a Liverpool fan, I was TOTALLY rooting for Barcelona! I'm not ashamed to admit it, either!!! ;)

DocDutch 28-05-2011 23:23

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strange you would've thought SAF watched the Barca vs Arsenal game where we didnt stand a bloody chance...

Congrats to Barca is all I can say the better team has won

adzii_nufc 28-05-2011 23:24

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
what are the odds on City winning the champions league.

Got a tenner handy

Russ 28-05-2011 23:56

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So fans of other teams wanted United to lose but when England play, the rest of us are told we ought to be pleased that a British nation is doing ''well". Double standards anyone?

idi banashapan 29-05-2011 00:47

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no one has to follow the crowd

Uncle Peter 29-05-2011 02:14

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35246968)
So fans of other teams wanted United to lose but when England play, the rest of us are told we ought to be pleased that a British nation is doing ''well". Double standards anyone?

Well it was the same for Liverpool in the 70s and 80s, if you have some success then there's always a queue of people waiting to knock you down. Also, I don't think the way that Mr Ferguson has conducted himself in the past endears him to the fans of other clubs. Best policy is to support your own team and manager without worrying what others think.

Arthurgray50@blu 29-05-2011 11:52

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Everyone is making Barca as a cream team, they were only good last night, as Man Utd were totally crap, Giggs was totally crap, and should not have played in view of recent events, the goal Messi scored, l have seen better in the PL.

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I have heard stong rumours that Harry Rednappe will become the next Chelsea manager, l have a sore stomach through laughing so much.

Harry might be a brilliant coach and manager, but Abramowich wants sucess EVERY season, Harry can't supply that, if Ab'ch had his way he would buy the damn cups and titles. Just think Angelotti was sacked for team failure - and they came second and got back into the champions League.

Remember - money can't buy everything.

adzii_nufc 29-05-2011 12:10

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35247146)
Everyone is making Barca as a cream team, they were only good last night, as Man Utd were totally crap, Giggs was totally crap, and should not have played in view of recent events, the goal Messi scored, l have seen better in the PL.

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Notably, Valencia (Non existent throughout), Hernandez had an absolute shocker and spent the opening 45 minutes offside and the other 45 doing nothing. Ryan Giggs was also non existent for the entirety.
Agree with you on Giggs and others I've said above but United were not totally crap. It was just a few players that were not in the game to be fair and you need everyone to play good to beat barca.

Russ 29-05-2011 12:19

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Inbetween playing crap, anyone notice Giggs' inch perfect lay off for Rooney's goal?


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