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noel43 23-06-2025 20:20
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36198399)
attack was only on Qatar and was coordinated with USA other reports seem to be just panic,sky news reports



meanwhile donalds no happy

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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The sites that we hit in Iran were totally destroyed, and everyone knows it. Only the Fake News would say anything different in order to try and demean, as much as possible — And even they say they were “pretty well destroyed!” Working especially hard on this falsehood is Allison Cooper of Fake News CNN, Dumb Brian L. Roberts, Chairman of “Con”cast, Jonny Karl of ABC Fake News, and always, the Losers of, again, Concast’s NBC Fake News. It never ends with the sleazebags in the Media, and that’s why their Ratings are at an ALL TIME LOW — ZERO CREDIBILITY!
You must be <removed>

RichardCoulter 23-06-2025 21:19
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BBC 6pm news spokeswoman said that this move by Iran is largely symbolic. Iran had to be seen to be retaliating, whilst not daring to attack the USA. Attacking a base outside America with American (and British) soldiers after making sure that the Americans had been forewarned (so that people could be evacuated) is seen as much safer than attacking the USA itself.

She ended by saying that, whether there had been any American casualties, would largely determine what Trump does next.

Damien 23-06-2025 21:24
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Iran has done that before. They did when Israel last hit them a few months ago, firing back in a way that would never cause a problem.

They know they cannot win this and are trying to de-escalate without losing face with their domestic audience, I guess.

downquark1 23-06-2025 21:52
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Now trump is apparently calling for peace.

RichardCoulter 23-06-2025 22:22
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Yes, there were no casualties and, after thanking Iran for giving them advance warning, their missiles were intercepted and there were no casualties. Trump has said that, now Iran has got this out of it's system, the conflict is as good as over.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36198411)
Iran has done that before. They did when Israel last hit them a few months ago, firing back in a way that would never cause a problem.

They know they cannot win this and are trying to de-escalate without losing face with their domestic audience, I guess.
Exactly.

Paul 23-06-2025 23:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36198411)
They know they cannot win this and are trying to de-escalate without losing face with their domestic audience, I guess.
Seems a reasonable guess.
Pick an insignificant base, in a small country thats not going to risk fighting back, warn them, and then make out you "retaliated".

Chris 24-06-2025 00:04
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Yup. Though I imagine they expected Trump to play along, and not tell the world in quite such explicit terms that they let him know what they were going to do. I imagine he thinks it’s a mark of respect, as if they’re treating him like some sort of mafia boss. I doubt he has any concept of how honour/shame works in Iranian culture and politics.

Hugh 24-06-2025 07:08
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I doubt he has any concept of how honour/shame works in any culture and politics.

papa smurf 24-06-2025 08:17
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how long before Israel attacks Iran on a matter of "national security" breaking the ceasefire deal

Hugh 24-06-2025 08:21
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36198427)
how long before Israel attacks Iran on a matter of "national security"

From the Washington Post this morning

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Israel has agreed to the ceasefire proposed by President Donald Trump, it said Tuesday morning. In a statement, the government said it had achieved its military objectives against Iran. “Israel thanks President Trump and the United States for their support in defense and for their participation in removing the Iranian nuclear threat,” the statement said, adding that any ceasefire violations will be met with force.*
*When asked for clarification, the Israeli spokesman stated "this includes "looking at Israel in a funny way", saying "your mum!" to Netanyahu, and "stepping on the cracks on the pavement"…

papa smurf 24-06-2025 08:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36198428)
From the Washington Post this morning



*When asked for clarification, the Israeli spokesman stated "this includes "looking at Israel in a funny way", saying "your mum!" to Netanyahu, and "stepping on the cracks on the pavement"…
Could be another not worth the paper it's written on deal

Hugh 24-06-2025 09:07
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Well, that didn’t last long…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7z...9aa726d11#post

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Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz has just issued a statement, saying he has ordered the Israel Defense Forces to "respond forcefully to Iran's violation of the ceasefire with intense strikes against regime targets in the heart of Tehran".

As a reminder, we haven't seen Iran confirm the attack. Iran's foreign minister said earlier that it would only stop its attacks if Israel did the same.

papa smurf 24-06-2025 09:09
Re: Israel v Iran conflict
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36198431)
Quick send them a copy of the art of the deal, they clearly haven't read it.

Chris 24-06-2025 10:24
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Trump just needs Marge and the MAGA maniacs to believe he’s won bigly. If he can make them believe he’s caused world peace, whether or not he’s actually done so is a mere detail.

papa smurf 24-06-2025 11:58
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Trump: Israel and Iran both violated ceasefire
Donald Trump says both Israel and Iran have violated the ceasefire in the Middle East.

Speaking to reporters before leaving for the NATO summit in The Hague, he says he's "not happy" with Israel and Iran, before adding he is "really unhappy" with Israel.

Trump adds that Iran's nuclear capacities are "gone" and says Tehran will never rebuild its nuclear programme.

In a subsequent Truth Social post, Trump says it would be a "major violation" if Israel were to drop bombs on Iran now, telling Israel to "bring your pilots home, now".

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-trum...atest-13382979

Trump just lost it with reporters saying the two sides have been fighting for so long they don't know what the F--- they're doing


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