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1andrew1 22-02-2022 09:13
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36114175)
A fat lot of good sanctions will do. They don't care. This will simply send them into the arms of China.

What Putin really won't like is if we offer the remaining Eastern European countris membership of NATO. That would really piss him off, but the problem with Putin is that he detests the West so much, there's no telling how he would react.

China and Russia acting together is of grave concern, in my view.
Agree with you on China but at the moment, China does not seem over-enthusiastic with Russia's actions at the moment. Definitely a relationship to be closely observed.

Which Eastern European countries are you referring to? Apart from Ukraine, I think all European countries that border Russia are NATO members.

Damien 22-02-2022 09:18
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Finland would be the main one. Sweden isn't on the border but would be welcomed by NATO as well.

1andrew1 22-02-2022 09:25
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36114180)
Finland would be the main one. Sweden isn't on the border but would be welcomed by NATO as well.
Yes, would be good to see those two join.

Carth 22-02-2022 09:39
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36114181)
Yes, would be good to see those two join.
Yeah, 'cos another couple of unread letters on Putins desk will make so much difference :D

Taf 22-02-2022 10:53
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
How long before Putin turns off the gas supply to Europe?

1andrew1 22-02-2022 11:21
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36114194)
How long before Putin turns off the gas supply to Europe?
That's paying for his troops so no time soon.

Damien 22-02-2022 11:22
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Germany has pulled Nord stream 2!

https://twitter.com/GuyChazan/status...77887996366849

Quote:
Scholz pulls plug on Nord Stream 2. "The situation now is a different one".

Jan135 22-02-2022 11:33
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Putin has admitted Donetsk People's Republic's independency. Also for years now Russia have been giving away russian passports to the citizens of DPR. Now if Ukraine will try to retake the DPR's territories by force, it would mean that Ukraine is attaking russian citizens. That could be a provocation that Putin is waiting to invade Ukraine.

Chris 22-02-2022 11:54
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan135 (Post 36114198)
Putin has admitted Donetsk People's Republic's independency. Also for years now Russia have been giving away russian passports to the citizens of DPR. Now if Ukraine will try to retake the DPR's territories by force, it would mean that Ukraine is attaking russian citizens. That could be a provocation that Putin is waiting to invade Ukraine.
Welcome … there’s the whiff of information warfare about your post. Are you involved?

Mick 22-02-2022 13:00
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson announces from House of Commons that 5 Russian banks and several Russian oligarchs will have their assets frozen and banned from trading with UK in a raft of first set of Sanctions on Russia.

Damien 22-02-2022 13:09
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Starmer calls on them to ban Russia Today and kick Russia out of the Swift system.

Ed Davey calls for army cuts to be reversed.

Very united atmosphere in the commons.

Meanwhile you'll never guess who Corbyn thinks is to blame for all this....

Mr K 22-02-2022 13:23
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36114210)
BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson announces from House of Commons that 5 Russian banks and several Russian oligarchs will have their assets frozen and banned from trading with UK in a raft of first set of Sanctions on Russia.
I'm sure they will have taken action to protect their assets well in advance.

£2million of Russian money has been donated to the Tory party, and a quarter of the cabinet have taken bungs from the Ruskies. Dont think they'll want to bite the hand that feeds them too much.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-took-25123091

Taf 22-02-2022 14:37
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36114196)
That's paying for his troops so no time soon.
Putin/Gazprom is selling greater volumes of gas to China already. And Russia has been holding military manoeuvres with China recently.

jonbxx 22-02-2022 14:52
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Various talking heads are coming out saying that regions of Eastern Ukraine who identify as ethnically Russian never wanted to be part of Ukraine would do well to remember the results of the 1991 Independence Referendum. Even the contested Donetsk and Luhansk regions voted nearly 80% 'yes' for independence.

Here a nice map showing the percentage of 'no' votes;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FML3T2MW...jpg&name=small

1andrew1 22-02-2022 14:54
Re: Russia & Ukraine invasion threat (Defcon 4)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36114212)
I'm sure they will have taken action to protect their assets well in advance.

£2million of Russian money has been donated to the Tory party, and a quarter of the cabinet have taken bungs from the Ruskies. Dont think they'll want to bite the hand that feeds them too much.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-took-25123091
That is the concern - you don't give those in power money for nothing. Words need to be matched with deeds and already we're hearing how at least one sizeable Russian bank seem to have swerved the sanctions list. Let's hope it's more cock-up than conspiracy.


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