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Carlos Carboni 06-01-2015 09:50

Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
....I recall the Chelsea players bringing dolls to the dressing room to make Graham feel at home :rolleyes:

Mr Banana 06-01-2015 11:51

Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35750582)
According to Sky, he is still talking with Oldham. I feel that this is all going wrong, Yes, Evans done bird for a serious offence. He is appealing against the sentence.

I believe that he has done his time, then he should be allowed back into the game he loves, on certain conditions.

One he goes for counselling and has to go slowly back into the sport. I think its wrong that clubs are being bullied into changing there minds over this, and sponsors are pulling the plug on clubs that want to sign him,.

Look at it this way - a Major sponsor - Joe Boggs Limited sponsor a club. A rapist signs for the club. Sponsor pulls out - customers stop buying that product, bingo.

I for one believe he should have another chance.

Arthur, for the umpteenth time, he has not served his sentence, he is out on licence.

Just out of interest, would you be happy to work alongside him, would you be happy for your daughter to work beside him?

martyh 06-01-2015 13:38

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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35750647)
Arthur, for the umpteenth time, he has not served his sentence, he is out on licence.

He has served the sentence that is required of him ,being on licence is irrelevant

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Just out of interest, would you be happy to work alongside him, would you be happy for your daughter to work beside him?
Yes because if it was joe blogs down the street this would not even be an issue ,you would have no idea of any past criminal offences and you would not be allowed to be all judgemental

Mr Banana 06-01-2015 14:07

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35750677)
He has served the sentence that is required of him ,being on licence is irrelevant



Yes because if it was joe blogs down the street this would not even be an issue ,you would have no idea of any past criminal offences and you would not be allowed to be all judgemental

It's not irrelevant, it stopped him being able to sign for the Maltese side

We are talking in the context of Ched Evans and everyone knows what the courts decided he has done. would you let him work with your daughter?

Gary L 06-01-2015 14:35

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35750677)
Yes because if it was joe blogs down the street this would not even be an issue ,you would have no idea of any past criminal offences and you would not be allowed to be all judgemental

I expect you'd say the same about a convicted pedo who has served his sentence and wants to look after your kids whilst you pop to the shop.

Mr Banana 06-01-2015 14:58

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35750677)
He has served the sentence that is required of him ,being on licence is irrelevant



Yes because if it was joe blogs down the street this would not even be an issue ,you would have no idea of any past criminal offences and you would not be allowed to be all judgemental

Apparently, when you are out on licence, you are still serving your sentence, look it up.

martyh 06-01-2015 15:14

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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35750681)
It's not irrelevant, it stopped him being able to sign for the Maltese side

It is irrelevant ,for all intents and purposes he has served his sentence ,he is free to live and work in the community and you can work abroad while on licence,each case is treated individually so i don't know why the Maltese side didn't sign him but being on licence is not a reason not to sign him


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We are talking in the context of Ched Evans and everyone knows what the courts decided he has done. would you let him work with your daughter?
Why is Ched Evans any different to any other criminal or rapist ? are you saying that he should never work again because he is a convicted rapist? or are you saying he should never work again because he is Ched Evans?

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35750682)
I expect you'd say the same about a convicted pedo who has served his sentence and wants to look after your kids whilst you pop to the shop.

Why would you ?

Hugh 06-01-2015 15:17

Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
He has not served his sentence, as he is still serving his sentence....

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Being on licence means that you are still serving a prison sentence but you can live in the community instead of being in prison. Whilst you are on licence, there are rules you must follow. How long these rules apply for depends on the length of your sentence. If you break the rules, you'll have to go back to prison (be recalled).
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/..._community.pdf

martyh 06-01-2015 15:18

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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35750688)
Apparently, when you are out on licence, you are still serving your sentence, look it up.

Parole is part of the sentence you are correct and i never denied that
but for all intents and purposes he has served his sentence and he is free to rejoin society


Just out of interest what job would you allow him to do ? work at tesco maybe where there would be loads of women around him ,or work in a bar for minimum wage where he could be alone with women who had been drinking

Gary L 06-01-2015 15:46

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35750691)
Why would you ?

Is that a Why would you? or a why would you?

would you?

martyh 06-01-2015 15:58

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35750697)
Is that a Why would you? or a why would you?

would you?

Why would you think i would allow a convicted peodo to look after children ,as an example it's as stupid as your beans example in the tv licence thread

Mr Banana 06-01-2015 16:09

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35750694)
Parole is part of the sentence you are correct and i never denied that
but for all intents and purposes he has served his sentence and he is free to rejoin society


Just out of interest what job would you allow him to do ? work at tesco maybe where there would be loads of women around him ,or work in a bar for minimum wage where he could be alone with women who had been drinking

Anything where he wouldn't be idolised by youngsters.

Gary L 06-01-2015 16:10

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35750701)
Why would you think i would allow a convicted peodo to look after children

Not other peoples children. your children.
Because he has served his sentence now. it's all in the past.
because you'd be happy for a convicted rapist to be around your children.


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it's as stupid as your beans example in the tv licence thread
And you won't give a straight answer to that one either.

TheDaddy 06-01-2015 16:16

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35750691)
It is irrelevant ,for all intents and purposes he has served his sentence ,he is free to live and work in the community and you can work abroad while on licence,each case is treated individually so i don't know why the Maltese side didn't sign him but being on licence is not a reason not to sign him




Why is Ched Evans any different to any other criminal or rapist ? are you saying that he should never work again because he is a convicted rapist? or are you saying he should never work again because he is Ched Evans?

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Why would you ?

Several of the conditions are standard and pretty much the same for everyone released including not travelling abroad

http://www.offendersfamilieshelpline...ce-conditions/

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35750705)
Not other peoples children. your children.
Because he has served his sentence now. it's all in the past.
because you'd be happy for a convicted rapist to be around your children.




And you won't give a straight answer to that one either.

Is he a child rapist now to :confused:

Gary L 06-01-2015 16:20

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35750708)
Is he a child rapist now to :confused:

Who?
my pedo is a pedo. not the rapist.
AFAIK.


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