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Nothing to do with the fact that people who enter this country are prepared to do the jobs that some people on benefits refuse to do?

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I was listening to a govt. official in Kos this morning who was talking about the refugees who've arrived there. She stressed how overwhelmed they were and how all they wanted to do was process the arrivals as soon as possible then let them on their way to Athens and from there to where they really want to go elsewhere in the EU. Therein lies the problem, nobody really wants these people and the MO seems to be give them some papers and off they go to the destinations of their choice as long as that's somewhere else.

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Do you call them monkeys when hiring them or human beings?

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At a guess I'd say neither. You ever been called a human being in an interview.

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Only on 606 footy forum :cool:

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I have. he told me he's fed up of hiring monkeys and wanted a human being.

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And that's why you didn't get the job Gary :)

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33144575

It's not going to be easy to separate the genuine asylum seekers from the economic migrants and others with more dubious intentions. According to BBC radio, the Italians are not even fingerprinting new arrivals but merely issuing tourist visas to them to head off where they wish.

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In Geography lessons at schools now. they point to countries on the map of the world and say "that one's empty.. that one's empty.. that one's nearly empty.."

and the tiny little one is full up to the brim. look you can see some of the people in the surrounding water. they fell off.

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It's perfectly evident that these migrants have their own ideas as to where they want to go - the shanty towns in N. France are proof of that - so if they're dispersed around the EU, how on Earth is anyone going to prevent them just leaving their allocated nation and heading somewhere else at some point? Nothing I suspect.

Also, it's been suggested that we might take some on a temporary basis but can you imagine the fuss and legal argument that'd inevitably ensue if, a few years down the line, people who've lived here, got jobs, formed relationships, had families etc. were told they'd be heading back to Syria or wherever? In reality it isn't going to happen is it and those who're recommending this option must know that just like they did when the Kosovans came here in large numbers on the same basis.

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Well it's all kicking off in Calais, with migrants taking advantage of French strikes to try everything to get onto and into vehicles passing on their way to the UK. The Mayor of Calais says it's our fault and the local French say they can't cope with the number and increasing frustration of the migrants queuing up to get into the UK. Everyone seems to be overlooking the reality that these people have come through several (if not numerous) safe countries (including the one they're stuck in) to get where they are now and have refused to claim asylum in any of them. They're now threatening people to try and force their way into the UK by whatever means they can. I have every sympathy for the drivers and hauliers who're effectively being forced to do the policing and feel the French authorities need to do more to arrest and remove the traffickers amongst these people. As it is, they seem content to let the situation grow worse and are happy to blame our less than tight border controls rather than look at the system which apparently allows migrants to pass freely through Europe and choose where they seek refuge.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33240475

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Do we help pay for the policing of Calais? If not that might be a possible way forward. Either that or offer to take over the port and surrounding area and enforce security ourselves.

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Not sure what the long-term alternative is. Obviously addressing the problems in the nations they are fleeing would be good but that's an even bigger task.

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IIRC we have paid towards the security measures (e.g. fences) but don't pay towards their policing. We're going to have to do something because right now these people's expectation is that if they manage to get into the UK they'll be OK - get benefits, be able to work illegally etc. The extreme lengths they're prepared to go to in order to get here will pale into insignificance when compared to the efforts they'll make to remain here so removing them is likely to be extremely difficult.

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I think the French are extracting the Urine, saying its our problem.

Why are they allowing these people to cross their country without being challenged?

Because they want to come to the UK.