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one2escape 15-06-2012 10:53

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I wonder if ESPN will go for the Champs League matches now. When are them rights up for renewing?

denphone 15-06-2012 11:05

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Originally Posted by one2escape (Post 35441750)
I wonder if ESPN will go for the Champs League matches now. When are them rights up for renewing?

l think thats a couple of years away yet.

richard1960 15-06-2012 11:24

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35441103)
well one thing for sure we be paying lot more to get all the games and bet the extra money will go on players wages as usual instead of lowering ticket prices

Ticket prices will never lower the extra money generated has already been well spoken of as going on "wage inflation".

Also on a separate point Virgin Meida may well have to do a deal of the wholesale kind it done for Setanta/ ESPN with BT for the matches,as i cannot see many VM customers forking out a tenner for an extra 38 games,in much the same way ESPN/setanta relealised to get any meaningful viewing figures on VM they would have to wholesale the channels..:)

I can see sky sports subs going up again though to cover the vastly increased cost of EPL coverage.:(

one2escape 15-06-2012 11:50

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Doesnt anyone else think they have majorly overpaid for the rights and there is no legal live streaming option?

chris9991 15-06-2012 11:56

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I imagine that, with how the tiers of rights have been awarded, if there was something similar to the last day of the season just gone, that the 'Manchester United' game would be on Sky whilst the 'Manchester City' game would be on BT.

denphone 15-06-2012 11:56

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Originally Posted by one2escape (Post 35441782)
Doesnt anyone else think they have majorly overpaid for the rights and there is no legal live streaming option?

There is no doubt they both overpaid for the rights but with Sky that simply had no choice as this has been the goose that has laid the golden egg for them for the last 20 years and with BT they obviously see this a good chance to grow their BT Vision share of the market but my question is have they really thought everything through before entering this lucrative but also extremely tricky market.

Telly_ 15-06-2012 12:42

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Originally Posted by one2escape (Post 35441782)
Doesnt anyone else think they have majorly overpaid for the rights and there is no legal live streaming option?

The have only over paid if we the customer stop subscribing to the service's. Aslong as this deal give Sky/BT a profit no matter how small then the companys won't consider themselves to have over paid.

I see the problem as consumers now are at their maximum prices points for what they're willing too spend out on TV. Sky will probably recoup the cost plus a small profit on their rights, but BT? They have already stated they will take a £100 million hit in the 1st year.

HDFootyMan 15-06-2012 14:59

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Originally Posted by Telly Bear (Post 35441799)
The have only over paid if we the customer stop subscribing to the service's. Aslong as this deal give Sky/BT a profit no matter how small then the companys won't consider themselves to have over paid.

I see the problem as consumers now are at their maximum prices points for what they're willing too spend out on TV. Sky will probably recoup the cost plus a small profit on their rights, but BT? They have already stated they will take a £100 million hit in the 1st year.

But they also make profits of £2.5 billion per year, and they'll make more money from their TV service once that's up and running

Still.....wouldn't be surprised to see BT's line rental charge go up, more than usual for the next annual price rise.

muppetman11 15-06-2012 15:39

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An interesting read

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/n...-bskyb-rivalry

denphone 15-06-2012 15:51

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35441881)

Yes it is a interesting read and the next couple of years are going to be interesting to say the least MM.

DaMac 15-06-2012 16:18

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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35441786)
I imagine that, with how the tiers of rights have been awarded, if there was something similar to the last day of the season just gone, that the 'Manchester United' game would be on Sky whilst the 'Manchester City' game would be on BT.

Don't forget more people want to watch United than City.. if only to see them loose they will always be the bigger draw, 2010 - 2011 champions league figures showed more people tuned in around Europe to watch United than anybody else, including Barcelona.

Telly_ 15-06-2012 16:26

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35441896)
Don't forget more people want to watch United than City.. if only to see them loose they will always be the bigger draw, 2010 - 2011 champions league figures showed more people tuned in around Europe to watch United than anybody else, including Barcelona.

More people DID want to watch united than city, you do realise they just won the premier league???

Next season everyone will be wanting to watch every Man-city game. Of course me being a fan of the mighty Aston-Villa will be happy just to see my team occasionally live on telly.

HDFootyMan 15-06-2012 16:50

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35441881)


BT: We want SS1 & 2 in HD. For a true wholesale price.
Sky: No. Can we have your 38 EPL Games?
BT: No.
VM: Can we?
BT: Yes. If you give us access to your network.
VM: No.
BT: No EPL Games for you then.

......ok, probably won't happen......it would be kinda funny if it did :p:. ESPN meanwhile, would be sitting there, happy with the fact that they've saved over £738m and they can spend it on sport rights which are actually worth that kind of money.

muppetman11 15-06-2012 16:56

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35441912)
BT: We want SS1 & 2 in HD. For a true wholesale price.
Sky: No. Can we have your 38 EPL Games?
BT: No.
VM: Can we?
BT: Yes. If you give us access to your network.
VM: No.
BT: No EPL Games for you then.

......ok, probably won't happen......it would be kinda funny if it did :p:. ESPN meanwhile, would be sitting there, happy with the fact that they've saved over £738m and they can spend it on sport rights which are actually worth that kind of money.

My feelings are that Sky will end up ok , due in part to the fact they have channels which BT will probably be very keen to add to their platform and the small fact that Sky's platform has 10.5 million potential customers to BT's sport channel , only guessing though.

colin25 15-06-2012 17:00

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I need to see what the charge will be.

If similar to ESPN, i might go for it.

But to be honest, i am running out of hours to watch football (and tv shows i like)

So won't cry if i don't get them


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