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martyh 12-04-2012 11:18

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35413026)
Lets put it this way, l am always looking for new ways of energy, but would not like to wake up in the morning and see one of those wind turbines near my house.

Can you imagine you trying to sleep at night and having that 'wirring noise' coming from the blades - and please don't members say the baldes don't make a noise.

I would be much better people getting those solar panels fitted to your house, and then you sell on the power that you don't need to the utility companies, and l see more of them now than anything else.:D


so your a NIMBY then :rolleyes:

Pog66 12-04-2012 11:30

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35413026)
but would not like to wake up in the morning and see one of those wind turbines near my house.

I think you're quite safe - can't see any be put up that close to Heathrow

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35413026)
Can you imagine you trying to sleep at night and having that 'wirring noise' coming from the blades - and please don't members say the baldes don't make a noise.

hence why they are stuck out of the way off the Norfolk coast or out in the Fens.

I'm not necessarily convinced on their return on investment but anything to find alternatives to carbon based fuel is good in my book.

Actually, in a sort of sinister War of the worlds way, I don;t think they look that bad (and we have plenty in this part of the country)

Tim Deegan 12-04-2012 12:04

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35413026)
Lets put it this way, l am always looking for new ways of energy, but would not like to wake up in the morning and see one of those wind turbines near my house.

Can you imagine you trying to sleep at night and having that 'wirring noise' coming from the blades - and please don't members say the baldes don't make a noise.

I would be much better people getting those solar panels fitted to your house, and then you sell on the power that you don't need to the utility companies, and l see more of them now than anything else.:D

It's a price we have to pay for clean energey.

Since when did they build them close enough to peoples houses so that they would keep you awake? :rolleyes:

martyh 12-04-2012 12:05

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Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35413032)
I think you're quite safe - can't see any be put up that close to Heathrow



hence why they are stuck out of the way off the Norfolk coast or out in the Fens.

I'm not necessarily convinced on their return on investment but anything to find alternatives to carbon based fuel is good in my book.

Actually, in a sort of sinister War of the worlds way, I don;t think they look that bad (and we have plenty in this part of the country)

It's a choice ,a wind farm or half a dozen cooling towers

Stuart 12-04-2012 13:06

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Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35413032)
I think you're quite safe - can't see any be put up that close to Heathrow

I dunno. Could make things interesting for Airline pilots and their passengers..

mertle 12-04-2012 14:14

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35413076)
I dunno. Could make things interesting for Airline pilots and their passengers..

the shard might already:D Just hope the got backup generator so if power cut this huge monster can be seen.

Arthur not against them to be fair but do question the return those in the norfolk coast often half dont move. Think they even too close so interfere with each they dont get wind.

One complaint was seals would not settle with them infact seals not gone away quite happy which good news.

Now we have alternative wave generators being tested as we speak. Now we need more R&D think government need to go for energy water R&D in big way as we could reap alot benefits.

I think this where UK could be world leader if we can crack a solution to water needs with turn sea water into drinking water. Even waste water in cheap eficient way. We could sell technology or better earn money from patents.

If we can do this with energy solutions too to move away from gas, oil we would be in great position as country.

It needs a government to think ahead invest into future tech.

I said awhile back all homes with south facing could have solar panel. The electric not used shared profit between ocupier and government.

It would take alot investment initially but way to beat energy companies.

If we can plough money into water issue again money well spent. Ok financially we coput but if we QE to give business then what better to spend it in our future rather waste it.

Stuart 12-04-2012 14:30

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Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35413110)
It would take alot investment initially but way to beat energy companies.

Good idea, in theory. The trouble is, the Energy companies own the infrastructure to transmit the power, so we'd need them on side. Something that's not going to happen if the government does anything that might cause them to lose a lot of money.

Pog66 12-04-2012 15:06

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Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35413110)
I think this where UK could be world leader if we can crack a solution to water needs with turn sea water into drinking water. Even waste water in cheap eficient way. We could sell technology or better earn money from patents.

Unfortunately we are well behind the curve with respect to desalination plants

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According to the International Desalination Association, in 2009 14,451 desalination plants operated worldwide, producing 59.9e6 cubic metres (2.12×109 cu ft) per day, a year on year increase of 12.3%.[4] It was 68 million in 2010, and expected to hit 120 million by 2020, some 40 million is planned for the Middle East.[5] The world's largest desalination plant is the Jebel Ali Desalination Plant (Phase 2) in the United Arab Emirates.

mertle 12-04-2012 15:58

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Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35413134)
Unfortunately we are well behind the curve with respect to desalination plants

thanks thought this one was very good only australia got it but yes just shows the backward nature this country.

We goto get to forfront technology that means we got invest in the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawater_Greenhouse

Now we could replicate this get food too:D

Actually doing googling came across vid about tesla anyway this fella come up said if you reverse the invention which makes lightning we could getfree energy.

Question is to those who genius electric buffs is he right. If he is right then why its not been tested his theory.

He tells goto link about tesla ideas for future got the link

http://www.lucidcafe.com/library/96jul/teslaauto06.html

Taf 12-04-2012 19:05

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35411217)
You are correct but the houses are there now ,what they going to do ,pull them down ?

That would be daft... until The Great Drought becomes an annual thing. :dunce:

British builders would build in the desert and then moan there was no water to supply the homes.

Or rather, planners would ALLOW British builders to build in such a place.

Ditto on flood plains ... they can't seem to get it right can they? :dunce:

martyh 12-04-2012 19:13

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35413224)
That would be daft... until The Great Drought becomes an annual thing. :dunce:

British builders would build in the desert and then moan there was no water to supply the homes.

Or rather, planners would ALLOW British builders to build in such a place.

Ditto on flood plains ... they can't seem to get it right can they? :dunce:

That's just it ,we are supposedly more advanced than say a thousand years ago ,but even they managed to build towns and villages where the water was ;)

Maggy 12-04-2012 19:16

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Well I don't need a hosepipe this week.

martyh 12-04-2012 19:43

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35413229)
Well I don't need a hosepipe this week.

I noticed that ,since the hose pipe ban it's never stopped raining :D

mertle 12-04-2012 20:01

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this great article about water and world problem how intercept mother nature speed it up. Instead waiting for moister form clouds then rain. Intercept create water from moister of air.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/env...ture-water.htm

One inventer come up with windmill the whisson windmill Although would need to see what impact this could have on environment.

http://www.alternate-energy-sources....-windmill.html

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Dr Whisson himself describes his Whisson Windmill as follows:

"The essential principle is that more wind is used for power than for water supply. In other words, the area of power turbines is greater than the area of turbines leading to water harvest. This is all made much easier by the invention of a new kind of wind turbine or 'windmill'. The amount of water available in the air is for all forseeable practical purposes unlimited. The bottom 1 kilometre (in the atmosphere) alone contains about 1.000,000,000,000,000 litres of water and that is turned over every few hours. The "Whisson Windmill" or Max Water From Air device will make it possible to get adequate water anywhere at any time, drought or no drought."

Pog66 16-04-2012 11:26

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I'm confused - we have a hosepipe ban in rainy Huntingdon yet the local council is paying people to hand deliver "what do to in a flood" leaflets through the door :dozey:


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