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Given various other ludicrous claims made about the device, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to say it did :-P

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I went for the shub because I wanted to simplify my cabling and reduce the number of devices sucking power out of the wall. I also wanted GB ethernet and wireless-N. The shub ticked the boxes. Why then should I have to resort to putting it into modem mode and forking out for another router? I've been provided something that's not fit for purpose.

Re: can we really write it off?
 

If it ticks your boxes - fine. If you want dual band wireless - not fine.

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Course, the Superhub sucks more power out the wall than a modem + router combination, so while you're reducing the clutter you're increasing the power usage.

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Does it really? The PSU is only rated at 18w - I doubt that a modem + router would be significantly less. Mind you if they offered the option to turn off the leds I reckon that would save a couple of watts at least.

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Yeah, it does, but not by much. I've seen people report it uses about 12-14w while idle. In comparison, my standalone DOCSIS3 modem uses 4.5w and simultaneous dual-band gigabit router 7w. My single band 11n router uses about 3w; my previous ADSL2+ "hub" with modem + 11n wireless took 6w, or less than half of the Superhub.

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If you have got the time and patience to challenge them on that I would love to see what they say.

At the end of the day dude you get what you pay for and even if I had to pay for the shub and it did what it was supposed to I still wouldn't use it because

a) if you have got a router which costs in excess of £100 you know nothing an isp gives you is going to be better because they have their own motives and interests at heart
b) regardless of what router you have got, even if it is a £40 one, if everything is working fine then leave things as they are.

Taking cheap freebies is just asking for trouble no matter what it is. I am sitting here atm quite smug because I am using my Linksys router which has rock solid reliabilty and the wireless performance kicks ass.

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I did think the shub was going to be an upgrade of my cheap, reliable TP-LINK router. It is advertised as being the "bees knees". To resort back to that device would be at the loss of the GB ethernet, which I'm reluctant to do and was the reason for getting the shub in the first place.

Just a bit peeved by the whole affair really. Fixing one issue results in the other occurring. Unless I shell out cash for a better standalone router that is. Which again, I'd rather not do.

Re: can we really write it off?
 

buuuuuuuuuut, without looking it up, you can get a Linksys E2000 with gigabit ports for £40 ish I think

Edit............................

I am telling porkies, it is £63 http://www.dabs.com/products/linksys...22-50468&src=3

The nice thing is that you arent just getting gigabit ports, it is dual band as well. With Linksys you are buying a whole raft of features and rock solid performance and reliability.

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It seems that the Blizzard Patcher used for downloading large files is proven to cause the SH to reboot - or at least the fault can be reproduced. Reading between the lines of what I've been told, VM are hopeful of it fixing other reboot circumstances subject to the outcome of field trials.

Re: can we really write it off?
 

dare I say it, I am considerig using the superhub again so I can cycle upstream channels, my upstream channel is getting messy on my tbb graph although actual latency on things like ssh remains good (probably due to vmng300) so I am in 2 minds now. The chances are both my upstream channels are whacked so switching to the superhuib probably wont help me.

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I'm not sure how the Superhub would help - it doesn't exactly have a change upstream button does it?

If you're thinking of bonding the VMNG300 is supposed to be able to do that too...

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Yes. The VMNG300 was a vnity boxed Ubee U10c035 CM with 4 upstream channels available.

http://www.ubeeinteractive.com/data-...t_V5_12_10.pdf

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the vmng300 appears to never use a different upstream channel than the first one it connects to, craig also confirmed this behaviour. That is a major downside to the device sadly.