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denphone 13-05-2011 17:47

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35235584)
That's not really deep debt though.

Well if that is not a big debt then what is.:erm:

richard1960 13-05-2011 17:53

Re: Virgin Media lack of tv investment
 
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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35235584)
That's not really deep debt though.

Deep enough probably to stop them adding channels at a fast pace imo, ie unlike sky vm is not sitting on a "cash mountain" i point to the example of it taking 9 months to add sky arts HD and only after the april price increase went through.

To me virgins debt is substantial,now i am well pleased with the tv service it carries all the channels i require now so i am in no way being critical of vm at all,just putting or trying to put a rational argument as to why vm perhaps cannot afford to add new channels as fast as people may like.:)

To me vm HAVE invested in tv substantially in the past 18 months more HD,sky sports Red Button,upgrading the headends ect,the pace in future may slow a little.

denphone 13-05-2011 17:57

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At the moment it has slowed to a snail,s pace.

LexDiamond 13-05-2011 18:04

Re: Virgin Media lack of tv investment
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235587)
Well if that is not a big debt then what is.:erm:

Considering the way the actual debt is structured and the fact that VM has an infrastructure which is tangible, I would say the debt is sensible.

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35235597)
Deep enough probably to stop them adding channels at a fast pace imo, ie unlike sky vm is not sitting on a "cash mountain" i point to the example of it taking 9 months to add sky arts HD and only after the april price increase went through.

To me virgins debt is substantial,now i am well pleased with the tv service it carries all the channels i require now so i am in no way being critical of vm at all,just putting or trying to put a rational argument as to why vm perhaps cannot afford to add new channels as fast as people may like.:)

To me vm HAVE invested in tv substantially in the past 18 months more HD,sky sports Red Button,upgrading the headends ect,the pace in future may slow a little.

You are ignoring the fact that VM can fund its operations via its current revenue stream. If that wasn't the case you wouldn't see the core infrastructure investment plus operational investment that VM have consistently made since its inception as a media co.

Stephen 13-05-2011 18:06

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35235597)
Deep enough probably to stop them adding channels at a fast pace imo, ie unlike sky vm is not sitting on a "cash mountain" i point to the example of it taking 9 months to add sky arts HD and only after the april price increase went through.

To me virgins debt is substantial,now i am well pleased with the tv service it carries all the channels i require now so i am in no way being critical of vm at all,just putting or trying to put a rational argument as to why vm perhaps cannot afford to add new channels as fast as people may like.:)

To me vm HAVE invested in tv substantially in the past 18 months more HD,sky sports Red Button,upgrading the headends ect,the pace in future may slow a little.

Sky Arts HD has nothing to do with any money issues. That channel was part of the deal done with Sky last year. It may have taken a while to appear on the tv platform but the deal was done ages ago.

Carriage rights and contracts can take a long time to agree. So new channels could be coming and VM could have been talking to other parties for a long time for all we know.

VM isn't really that in debt. A lot of companies are operating in debt these days.

denphone 13-05-2011 18:12

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35235628)
Sky Arts HD has nothing to do with any money issues. That channel was part of the deal done with Sky last year. It may have taken a while to appear on the tv platform but the deal was done ages ago.

Carriage rights and contracts can take a long time to agree. So new channels could be coming and VM could have been talking to other parties for a long time for all we know.

VM isn't really that in debt. A lot of companies are operating in debt these days.

They have been in talks for a awful long time with some companies then.:(

devilincarnate 13-05-2011 18:13

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235636)
They have been in talks for a awful long time with some companies then.:(

Its good to talk:D:D:D:D

richard1960 13-05-2011 19:13

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35235625)
Considering the way the actual debt is structured and the fact that VM has an infrastructure which is tangible, I would say the debt is sensible.



You are ignoring the fact that VM can fund its operations via its current revenue stream. If that wasn't the case you wouldn't see the core infrastructure investment plus operational investment that VM have consistently made since its inception as a media co.

Well i am not party to wether vm can fund its current operations totally from their current revenue stream as i am only joe public,but i will bow to your knowledge on the subject,as i say i am not waiting any new channels i am happy enough now sky sport red button is here.:)

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35235628)
Sky Arts HD has nothing to do with any money issues. That channel was part of the deal done with Sky last year. It may have taken a while to appear on the tv platform but the deal was done ages ago.

Carriage rights and contracts can take a long time to agree. So new channels could be coming and VM could have been talking to other parties for a long time for all we know.

VM isn't really that in debt. A lot of companies are operating in debt these days.

No i am aware the deal was done last year but the channel took 9 months to appear! wether that was down to finances i do not know for sure,but it seems an awfully long time to me.:shocked:

I know carriage rights can take a long time no argument there but it was rumoured at least 2 years ago that History HD ws in negotiation they must have fallen asleep,as i say iam happy with my channel selection now though.:)

denphone 13-05-2011 19:15

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35235638)
Its good to talk:D:D:D:D

It certainly is on this wonderful forum.:D:D:D:D

devilincarnate 13-05-2011 19:15

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35235736)

I know carriage rights can take a long time no argument there but it was rumoured at least 2 years ago that History HD ws in negotiation they must have fallen asleep,as i say iam happy with my channel selection now though.:)

Yes that is true and I for one am happy with the channel line up as well:D

carlwaring 13-05-2011 19:24

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Me too. Obviously I hope we get certain channels that I have mentioned previously at some point, but I'm sure we will :)

denphone 13-05-2011 19:26

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35235782)
Me too. Obviously I hope we get certain channels that I have mentioned previously at some point, but I'm sure we will :)

Always look on the bright side of life.:D:D:D

devilincarnate 13-05-2011 19:27

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235758)
It certainly is on this wonderful forum.:D:D:D:D

It would be boring if we did not talk:( So all opinions are welcome, If not agreed with:D

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235790)
Always look on the bright side of life.:D:D:D

Monty Python:D:D:D

richard1960 13-05-2011 19:30

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35235760)
Yes that is true and I for one am happy with the channel line up as well:D

Good to have some happy customers tonight in the VM camp.:LOL::)

denphone 13-05-2011 19:30

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35235792)
It would be boring if we did not talk:( So all opinions are welcome, If not agreed with:D

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Monty Python:D:D:D

Now they were worth paying for.:D


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