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Sadly the exact same thing is true of ntl/telewest/VM. They use UP TO 10mb, when there are growing amounts of people on this forum who can't even receive 1mb speeds on a 10mb service. We live in a world where marketing is everything, and neither company are gonna choose truth over something that will bring new customers in.

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But isn't that due to over-subscription of UBR's and poor network management; versus the inherent hardwired limitations of ADSL over a POTS line....

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Its exactly that.

What I want to know is those of us who where leaving to go to Sky, for 16MB, who where offered the £17.50 for 10MB Broadband for life, do we still get 20MB broadband for that same price? how is that gonna work?

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The reasons are unimportant, if you're one of the customers not getting what was promised you'll be ****ed off, regardless of the reasons.

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Then add on the line rental for your BT phone line, and I think you'll find there's not really a case for 'rip off' :rolleyes:

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Dont forget your £11.00 BT line rental

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BT calls are much cheaper aren't they? That would certainly sweeten the deal. I really couldn't go back to BT though, ntl/VM have their problems, but BT were a bloody nightmare! Mind you, i've been very lucky with ntl/VM, never had the bill problems (apart from them mis-spelling my surname for 8 years, even after changing it about 4 times. lol), and i get 8mb on a 10mb service, so i can't really complain.

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How about putting it this way
VM
24 unlimited phone £24.99pm
up to 4mb BB £24.99pm
total £49.98pm


Sky/BT
line rental £11.00pm
24 unlimited phone £5.00pm
up to 16mb BB £10.00pm
total £26.00pm

Difference = £23.98pm

I know adsl is more prone to be lower than advertised but as the easynet service is really a 22mb service, a larger proportion of people are more likely to be able to get closer to 16mb than if sky had advertised a 22mb service.
The lower price getting on for close to half price also makes it very attractive. Vm need to up all their tiers to higher speeds & take a slice off their prices to really make them competitive, thats if they are serious about competing with sky

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VM - 2 for £20
Upgrade to 4MB BB +£7
Upgrade to XL Phone + £14

Total = £41 (including free M digital TV pack :))

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Dont you have to have the TV with that to get the 16 meg service?

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yes thats correct but i have been with sky since before cable was around, so thats not an issue for me. There again most people end up with one platform or the other just a matter of choice. Personally having had both sky & the old ntl system running side by side before, i actually prefer the sky system. Maybe if VM improved on the look & use of the system then my view would change.

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I have to say if VM offer 50Mb download for £50 p/m with no restrictions I'll take it.

I have 10Mb and can't fault the service (1200KB 24/7), however I feel for people who pay for it and don't get it.

As far as I'm concerned VM is by far the best ISP available in the UK, the fibre infrastructure that VM has is superior to anything BT will put in for the next 5 years at least. A member of my family has recently moved to Supanet on 8Mb/s ADSL and the speeds they are getting are terrible, they'll be moving back to Zen if they can.

As long as VM don't introduce FUPs we'll all be on a winner.

On another point though, I tried to sign up to VM TV through the website and nothing happened - shame really as I drastically want to get shot of Sky as I don't watch it - or the crappy US tv programs.

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mcgeezer, what area of the UK are you in?

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I agree with you and I moved house and guess what! I was on Supanet in the old house and it was awful! They wouldn't give me a MAC code even after the contract.

Moved house, got VM 10Mb and since October I have had 1.15-1.2mb/s solid. Wont go back to ADSL again considering cable's pings and routes are a lot better too.

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As my 4Mb connection is never faster than 2.5Mb, I'm less than excited.