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cookie_365 06-05-2005 20:31
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Well, I'm absolutely delighted :) !!

A great win, especially given it's after 8 years of gov't already.

A mid 60s majority is excellent by any standards; the only thing it pales against is the preposterously outrageously stupendous performance we got in the last election.

So, 4 more years of strong economy, reduction in crime, low unemployment, rising standards of living, standing up to terrorists and dictators, ethical foreign policy, better employee rights, etc etc etc.

I think the Tories'll kid themselves that they did a good job - but they didn't. This time they benefited from the fragmentation of votes between Labour, LD, Green, and the various spin off 'old Labour' candidates who'll close ranks next time to make sure there's no chance of a Tory government.

Blair'll carry on for another 2 years before handing over to Gordon Brown, who'll hit the next election at the height of his honeymoon period.

In the meantime, who'll be Tory leader? A 'typical of the membership' right winger, to follow on from the tremendous successes achieved by other 'typical of the membership' right wingers like, errr, Hague, Duncan-Smith, and Howard? A pro-Europe left winger who won't be able to get the support of the grass roots party? A dull policy wonk that won't inspire anyone? There are a few human beings in the party that I'd potentially at least consider voting for, e.g. Rifkind, Clarke, but I honestly can't see them holding the party together to form an effective campaign.

The one thing I'm really disappointed in though is Bethnal Green. Standing against a Jewish woman and manipulating a strong misogynistic anti-semitic vote. Made my stomach turn.

Listening to Gorgeous talking about 'all the people [Blair] had killed' in Iraq was the most sick making. Perhaps if Blair had 'killed' a few hundred thousand more he would've qualified for an arse licking while Gorgeous raved over Blair's courage, strength, and indefatigability, and wet himself about how many Palestinian children were now being given the name 'Tony' at birth. Then again, the extreme right has historically done well in the East End .....

allieyoung666 06-05-2005 20:41
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Are you serious??? Well go and work for the NHS and you would soon change your tune mate!

Paul 06-05-2005 20:57
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Originally Posted by cookie_365
So, 4 more years of strong economy, reduction in crime, low unemployment, rising standards of living, standing up to terrorists and dictators, ethical foreign policy, better employee rights, etc etc etc.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

BTW, what's the weather like on your planet ?

nffc 06-05-2005 20:59
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Originally Posted by Damien
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I had a Victor Melldrew moment the other day when I read a report about special time allowances for people with dyslexia taking GCSE & A level exams.
While the pet thing is stupid, what is wrong with extra time allowances?
Most of the dyslexic kids at our school didn't use them. I don't see the point.

punky 06-05-2005 21:00
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Originally Posted by Damien
Where does this wood chipper come from? Is this a new election term i havent heard of yet
It was joke showing my disgust at Galloway winning a seat. The joke bit is that he will follow in the footsteps of his good friend, and personal role model, Saddam Hussein. Saddam drained the marshes in Iraq, and fed political opponents through a wood chipper. Also, Saddam isn't know for this multi-cultural attitude to include Jews.

Not in brilliant taste, i'd admit...

Edit: Just saw Paxman's interview with Galloway on election night. Paxman is now on my christmas card list :) Its a shame he relented and did congratulate Galloway though in the end...

cookie_365 06-05-2005 21:17
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Originally Posted by allieyoung666
Are you serious??? Well go and work for the NHS and you would soon change your tune mate!
Any particular part of the tune?
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Originally Posted by Paul M
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

BTW, what's the weather like on your planet ?
Sun's shining here on planet Labourvoter ;)

NitroNutter 06-05-2005 21:26
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Originally Posted by cookie_365
Any particular part of the tune?
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Sun's shining here on planet Labourvoter ;)
Ah planet Rubarb then to go with the Tory Planet Crumble :D

Wonder who will become planet custard

Damien 06-05-2005 21:32
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Originally Posted by nffc
Most of the dyslexic kids at our school didn't use them. I don't see the point.
Some people with dyslexia do need a bit more time with the writing.

BBKing 06-05-2005 21:37
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Its a shame he relented and did congratulate Galloway though in the end
Did he? Looked like spitting sarcasm to me. Bloody silly question to ask, though, unless you were deliberately trying to stir up controversy.

Oh, and although it's been mentioned before, Gorgeous George met Saddam Hussein once, and famously saluted his indefatigability. Pretty reprehensible. Donald Rumsfeld, on the other hand, met him twice, and tried to flog him a pipeline deal with a U.S. company. Also pretty reprehensible. Damn George and you damn Rummy twice.

cookie thinks Galloway is an extreme right-winger? OK, whatever. And I personally consider it insulting to characterise Oona King as a 'Jewish woman', she's a highly effective and intelligent politician, who's perfectly capable of standing up for herself - that she failed to represent the views of her constituents is the decision that's cost her her seat.

Where's Blair stood up to terrorists? Inventing some and creating many more doesn't count as standing up, in my book. Stand up to George Bush and he might get some respect from me.

slowcoach 06-05-2005 21:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cookie_365
Well, I'm absolutely delighted :) !!

A great win, especially given it's after 8 years of gov't already.

A mid 60s majority is excellent by any standards; the only thing it pales against is the preposterously outrageously stupendous performance we got in the last election.

So, 4 more years of strong economy, reduction in crime, low unemployment, rising standards of living, standing up to terrorists and dictators, ethical foreign policy, better employee rights, etc etc etc.
SPOT ON.

Michael Howard has had the knife in his back, but what else could he expect from a Party which has always been ruthless, "Stepping Down", ... billhooks.
Have people on this Forum forgotten Thatcherââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s Slash and Burn policies which devastated many parts of this country. Labour have tried to redistribute the wealth more fairly but there is still a long way to go, I just hope they realize who allowed them to continue and reward those parts of the country which have given them a third term.

And to all those people who swallowed the media hype about the Lib Dems being in with a chance (yet again, yawn) get real.

My advice to Forum Members is to stop waiting for a political party to make your little world perfect, get off your orifice and sort your life out yourself.

purenuman 06-05-2005 21:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cookie_365
Well, I'm absolutely delighted :) !!

A great win, especially given it's after 8 years of gov't already.

A mid 60s majority is excellent by any standards; the only thing it pales against is the preposterously outrageously stupendous performance we got in the last election.

So, 4 more years of strong economy, reduction in crime, low unemployment, rising standards of living, standing up to terrorists and dictators, ethical foreign policy, better employee rights, etc etc etc.

I think the Tories'll kid themselves that they did a good job - but they didn't. This time they benefited from the fragmentation of votes between Labour, LD, Green, and the various spin off 'old Labour' candidates who'll close ranks next time to make sure there's no chance of a Tory government.

Blair'll carry on for another 2 years before handing over to Gordon Brown, who'll hit the next election at the height of his honeymoon period.

In the meantime, who'll be Tory leader? A 'typical of the membership' right winger, to follow on from the tremendous successes achieved by other 'typical of the membership' right wingers like, errr, Hague, Duncan-Smith, and Howard? A pro-Europe left winger who won't be able to get the support of the grass roots party? A dull policy wonk that won't inspire anyone? There are a few human beings in the party that I'd potentially at least consider voting for, e.g. Rifkind, Clarke, but I honestly can't see them holding the party together to form an effective campaign.

The one thing I'm really disappointed in though is Bethnal Green. Standing against a Jewish woman and manipulating a strong misogynistic anti-semitic vote. Made my stomach turn.

Listening to Gorgeous talking about 'all the people [Blair] had killed' in Iraq was the most sick making. Perhaps if Blair had 'killed' a few hundred thousand more he would've qualified for an arse licking while Gorgeous raved over Blair's courage, strength, and indefatigability, and wet himself about how many Palestinian children were now being given the name 'Tony' at birth. Then again, the extreme right has historically done well in the East End .....
:tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:
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Originally Posted by iadom
Fortunately for them they didn't. The rest of us will not be so lucky.:(
coming soon
Still some way to go to match the millions living in misery as unemployed under the Tories. ;)

Still a cheap labour pool is what a strong economy needs isn't it??

:rolleyes:

punky 06-05-2005 22:03
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Originally Posted by BBKing
Donald Rumsfeld, on the other hand, met him twice, and tried to flog him a pipeline deal with a U.S. company. Also pretty reprehensible. Damn George and you damn Rummy twice.
Well, there is a bit of a difference between making a pilgrimage to meet a vicious dictator and telling him how marvellous you think he is, and being sent there by your employer as part of your work and told to be nice to him. Also TBF people's perception of him in the early 80s was a bit different. He'd only been in power a couple of years.

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she failed to represent the views of her constituents is the decision that's cost her her seat.
She didn't do too badly, and she is an incumbant after all. I saw on the news today some muslims saying they were fed up with him coming down to mosques pretending to be muslim, and using them to have a pop at Blair over Iraq, and that sounds pretty plausible to me. In that area I dare say they are plenty who shared Galloway's sentiments in running.

Chris 06-05-2005 22:06
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Originally Posted by slowcoach
SPOT ON.

Michael Howard has had the knife in his back, but what else could he expect from a Party which has always been ruthless, "Stepping Down", ... billhooks.
Stepping down, yep. I think, given the number of seats the Tories gained, he would have been well able to continue to command respect as leader of the opposition. I see nothing odd ab out him poniting out he will be in his late 60s by the time of the next election.

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Have people on this Forum forgotten Thatcherââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s Slash and Burn policies which devastated many parts of this country.
Nope. The thing about slash and burn is that it's well known as an effective means of generating new, heathy growth. Pretty much what's been happening in the UK for the last 12 years, in fact. Or will you, like Blair and Brown, conveniently forget that many of their vaunted '50 quarters of consecutive growth' the UK has enjoyed were quarters administered by the Tories? Go on, do the maths. 50 divided by 4 is 12.5. That's 12 and a half years. Which means the first quarter in question was in 1993. Can you remember who lived in number 10 in 1993? ;)


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Labour have tried to redistribute the wealth more fairly but there is still a long way to go
A very long way to go, given that despite creating one of the most complex tax/benefit systems in the developed world, Labour has presided over a real-terms fall in household incomes in the last eight years.

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I just hope they realize who allowed them to continue and reward those parts of the country which have given them a third term.
That is so unbelievably pig-ignorant I'm not going to legitimise it by tearing it to bits. Do grow up.

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And to all those people who swallowed the media hype about the Lib Dems being in with a chance (yet again, yawn) get real.
Eh? The Lib Dem share of the vote, and number of seats in Parliament, has gone up (yet again). Can I ask, do you have any knowledge of history whatsoever? Do you know anything at all about the birth of the Party you support? Clearly not, because you are obviously of the opinion that successful political parties emerge from nowhere and storm into Government more or less immediately. The modern Liberal Democrat party has been around for less than 20 years.

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My advice to Forum Members is to stop waiting for a political party to make your little world perfect, get off your orifice and sort your life out yourself.
Oh, sorry, after all that I didn't realise you were a Tory. Norman Tebbit would be proud of you. :)

iadom 06-05-2005 22:33
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Originally Posted by Damien
While the pet thing is stupid, what is wrong with extra time allowances?
Please tell me where I said that time allowance for physical disabilities are wrong.

When I was 11 years old, I took the 11 plus exam. According to my form teacher I failed by the smallest margin allowed. No account was taken of the fact that only five months before my father who was aged 31 was killed in a motorcycle accident. My mother who had a chronic heart condition from the age of 14 had been in hospital for 12 months and my dad was killed on the day she came home, she never saw him. She was very soon back in hospital and myself and my two younger brothers went into temporary care. Unfortunately this was in a town 5 miles from our home so although my brothers went into nursery/infant school, I was placed in a completely alien primary school for 5 months before returning to my own school just before the 11 plus exam.
You will forgive me if I have little or no patience with today's 'liberal, wishy washy, softly softly' approach, but I have had to get by with my basic common sense and my self belief. Anything I have, I worked for myself without any help from the state, that is why I have a passionate dislike of Labour's overweaning, "we know best" tax and waste, government.

sir_drinks_alot 06-05-2005 22:50
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david davis !!!! he's the first and only person the conservatives should pick
to be there next leader. he's got all the Qualities needed to be Leader of the
Opposition !


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