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Hugh 01-02-2026 21:59
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209952)
No. I see through the hype. Others seem to be suffering from a bad case of gullibility.

---------- Post added at 20:05 ---------- Previous post was at 20:02 ----------



I am so sorry to hear that this bothers you so much.

I am sorry to hear that you confuse "curiosity where opaque funding is coming from" with "bother"…

1andrew1 01-02-2026 22:09
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209952)
No. I see through the hype. Others seem to be suffering from a bad case of gullibility.
With so much self-projection going on here, you're giving Odeon Cinemas some serious competition! :D

Hugh 06-02-2026 01:06
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Congratulations to Dan Thomas, who has been chosen by Farage the new Head of Reform in Wales.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...rrer=deep-link

He will bring to Wales his relevant experience of living in London for the last 27 years (he moved there when he was 18), working in Financial Services and being a Conservative Candidate twice, and being a Conservative Councillor for 20 years (including being the Leader of Barnet Council for four years).

Amusingly, all the reporting state that "he moved away from Barnet so that he and his wife could raise their young sons in the countryside and live closer to their families in south Wales and "moved to the West Country to be closer to his family and raise his children there.", and Farage said "“Why did I pick Dan? He tells a story of someone who had to go away but loves Wales so much he wants his own children to grow up in a similar environment.…

"a similar environment", "West Country", and "live closer" - so, not Wales, then?

papa smurf 06-02-2026 09:49
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210135)
Congratulations to Dan Thomas, who has been chosen by Farage the new Head of Reform in Wales.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...rrer=deep-link

He will bring to Wales his relevant experience of living in London for the last 27 years (he moved there when he was 18), working in Financial Services and being a Conservative Candidate twice, and being a Conservative Councillor for 20 years (including being the Leader of Barnet Council for four years).

Amusingly, all the reporting state that "he moved away from Barnet so that he and his wife could raise their young sons in the countryside and live closer to their families in south Wales and "moved to the West Country to be closer to his family and raise his children there.", and Farage said "“Why did I pick Dan? He tells a story of someone who had to go away but loves Wales so much he wants his own children to grow up in a similar environment.…

"a similar environment", "West Country", and "live closer" - so, not Wales, then?

so guilty of not living where you want him to

Hugh 06-02-2026 10:33
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I don’t give a rat’s derrière where he lives - I just think it’s unusual for someone who has appointed as Leader of a Political Party in a country not to live in the country he’s just been appointed to lead that Political Party in…

It’s like being elected as a Constituency MP, but never holding constituency surgeries in that place…

Oh wait, I see a theme emerging… ;)

1andrew1 06-02-2026 11:10
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Yes, that press release does assume the public is les intelligent than we are. Loves Wales so much he moved out of London to bring his children up in SW England. ;)

Paul 06-02-2026 20:43
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36210137)
so guilty of not living where you want him to
Where did Hugh say he wanted him to live anywhere ?

Hes guilty of not living in Wales, the country he's being appointed "Head of Reform" for.

Hugh 07-02-2026 10:10
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Interesting…

https://nation.cymru/news/the-new-le...th-not-wales/#

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The newly appointed leader of Reform UK in Wales hasn’t moved back to his home town in the Valleys, but has bought a £1m house near Bath, we can reveal.

Dan Thomas, the former Conservative leader of Barnet council in London, was introduced on February 5 by Nigel Farage as his handpicked leader in Wales.

Farage told the Reform event in Newport: “He has not been brought into Reform ‘from the outside’…

… Blackwood-born Thomas told the conference in Newport: “After 27 years I’m back home. Raising my two boys in the south Wales valleys. I’ve come back to where I belong.”

“He has voluntarily left London, come back to the Valleys, living in Islwyn, come back to his home, and he’s done that because he loves Wales.

“He’s done that because he wants his children to grow up being Welsh…

… We wrote to Reform UK’s press team, stating: “We have been told that Dan Thomas does not live in Wales, but in the Bath area.

“We shall be publishing a story to this effect later today.

“Could you please answer the following questions:

“Why was it stated at the Newport event that Reform’s newly announced Wales leader Dan Thomas lives in Wales, when he in fact lives in the Bath area in a house he has bought for around £1m since selling his previous home in Edgware?

“We have been told that he is working for a large financial institution from his home in the Bath area. Why was this not made clear?

“As you will be aware, Mr Thomas’s ability to stand for election to the Senedd depends on his living in Wales at what is his primary residence. Is it his intention to claim that his primary residence is his father’s home in Blackwood, and does he honestly believe that complies with the law?.

Hugh 15-02-2026 12:14
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Things are going so well in Gorton and Denton the Reform candidate is posting AI pictures to show how well it's going...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1771154024

1andrew1 15-02-2026 13:55
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210598)
Things are going so well in Gorton and Denton the Reform candidate is posting AI pictures to show how well it's going...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1771154024
Lol, Time Neds Reform, Britain Needs Remark, Dragon with Changes. Pick your favourite AI sign there! :D

Sephiroth 15-02-2026 14:16
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210602)
Lol, Time Neds Reform, Britain Needs Remark, Dragon with Changes. Pick your favourite AI sign there! :D
Is that AI?

Carth 15-02-2026 15:09
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36210603)
Is that AI?
Nah, don't think AI has a sense of humour . . . although thinking about it, it could have a nice sarcastic side ;)

Hugh 15-02-2026 18:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210602)
Lol, Time Neds Reform, Britain Needs Remark, Dragon with Changes. Pick your favourite AI sign there! :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36210603)
Is that AI?
https://www.ibm.com/think/topics/ai-hallucinations

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What are AI hallucinations?

AI hallucination is a phenomenon where, in a large language model (LLM) often a generative AI chatbot or computer vision tool, perceives patterns or objects that are nonexistent or imperceptible to human observers, creating outputs that are nonsensical or altogether inaccurate.
tbf, that definition also encapsulates Reform policies… ;)

1andrew1 15-02-2026 22:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36210603)
Is that AI?
Yes, I've previously tried a few images with Chat GPT and Copilot and it does that type of thing.

1andrew1 16-02-2026 00:49
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210138)
It’s like being elected as a Constituency MP, but never holding constituency surgeries in that place…
In Clacton he's now known as Nigel Mirage, as the only time people see him locally is when they're hallucinating! :D

papa smurf 16-02-2026 16:37
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Starmer abandons plans to cancel 30 local council elections in May in another U-turn
Ministers have abandoned plans to delay elections to 30 councils across the country following a legal challenge from Reform UK. The government will pay the party's legal bill, which Sky News understands runs into "six figures". Follow the latest below.


https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...eader-12593360

Sephiroth 16-02-2026 17:12
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Farage stole a march on Kemi. She should have vetoed the Tory councils who voted to delay and then joined forces with the Reform legal action. Now she's laid herself open being torn apart.

OLD BOY 16-02-2026 18:50
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Starmer, our legal champion, should be ashamed of himself. Most of these councils will be changing to Reform. More of them now, I suspect.

Sephiroth 16-02-2026 19:04
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Reform taking these councils could be a poison chalice. If they screw up at local level, which is quite possible, come the GE, Reform would be toast.

papa smurf 16-02-2026 19:04
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36210682)
Starmer, our legal champion, should be ashamed of himself. Most of these councils will be changing to Reform. More of them now, I suspect.
i doubt people will vote for those who didn't want them to have a vote

OLD BOY 16-02-2026 20:06
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36210686)
Reform taking these councils could be a poison chalice. If they screw up at local level, which is quite possible, come the GE, Reform would be toast.
Why would they screw up? Farage has been very careful with his selection process this time around, and they are pledged to make local authorities more efficient wherever possible. This should be easier in councils previously run by Labour.

Financial savings will not be the priority until they are forming a Reform UK government, because something like 75% of the budget is spent on social care and most of the remainder is on other statutory services, which have to be performed as dictated by central government. All Reform can deliver until they are forming GE is these same services, delivered as efficiently as possible.

jem 16-02-2026 20:21
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36210665)
Snip...the government will pay the party's legal bill, which Sky News understands runs into "six figures". ....Snip
Actually that should have read ‘the taxpayer will pay the party’s legal bill.....'

OLD BOY 16-02-2026 20:33
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Originally Posted by jem (Post 36210694)
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36210665)
Snip...the government will pay the party's legal bill, which Sky News understands runs into "six figures". ....Snip
Actually that should have read ‘the taxpayer will pay the party’s legal bill.....'
Yes, money that wouldn’t have been spent if Starmer hadn’t embarked on this unlawful path in his vain effort to remain in power.

jem 16-02-2026 20:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36210692)
Why would they screw up? Farage has been very careful with his selection process this time around, and they are pledged to make local authorities more efficient wherever possible. This should be easier in councils previously run by Labour.

Financial savings will not be the priority until they are forming a Reform UK government, because something like 75% of the budget is spent on social care and most of the remainder is on other statutory services, which have to be performed as dictated by central government. All Reform can deliver until they are forming GE is these same services, delivered as efficiently as possible.
Yes but you can pledge whatever you want - the problem is in the execution. Say Reform go in to these elections promising to ‘cut waste’, ‘improve efficiency’, ‘save money’, ‘reduce costs for Council tax payers’, basically offer the usual easy answers for complex problems? And then they fail totally? There are no savings, Council tax goes up, libraries close, etc.

It is easy to simply search for ‘Reform run Council failures’ and find similar examples. Yes you can argue that the sources are biased, but is there a nugget of truth in them?

Now it won’t matter that Reform will argue that ‘it’s not our fault - if only we were in Government.....’, people will rightly question why they made promises that their either couldn’t fulfil or simply were too incompetent to do so.

No Seph is quite right, doing well in the local elections could actually prove to be disastrous for Reform in the long term.

Paul 16-02-2026 23:22
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Be careful with your quoting please, just had to fix up two posts. ;)

1andrew1 17-02-2026 19:12
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Interesting. But the next general election is still 60 u-turns away!
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Reform UK is no longer the bookmakers’ favourites to win the most seats at the next general election, according to new odds from Ladbrokes.

The latest market has Labour leading at 13/8, with Reform UK drifting to 7/4. The Conservatives sit further back on 11/2, followed by the Greens at 8/1, Restore Britain at 20/1 and the Liberal Democrats at 40/1.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...ection-403354/

papa smurf 17-02-2026 20:06
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210740)
Interesting. But the next general election is still 60 u-turns away!


https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...ection-403354/
if you put your money on labour you can kiss it goodbye

1andrew1 17-02-2026 20:55
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36210743)
if you put your money on labour you can kiss it goodbye
Who would you put your money on?

OLD BOY 17-02-2026 21:35
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jem (Post 36210697)
Yes but you can pledge whatever you want - the problem is in the execution. Say Reform go in to these elections promising to ‘cut waste’, ‘improve efficiency’, ‘save money’, ‘reduce costs for Council tax payers’, basically offer the usual easy answers for complex problems? And then they fail totally? There are no savings, Council tax goes up, libraries close, etc.

It is easy to simply search for ‘Reform run Council failures’ and find similar examples. Yes you can argue that the sources are biased, but is there a nugget of truth in them?

Now it won’t matter that Reform will argue that ‘it’s not our fault - if only we were in Government.....’, people will rightly question why they made promises that their either couldn’t fulfil or simply were too incompetent to do so.

No Seph is quite right, doing well in the local elections could actually prove to be disastrous for Reform in the long term.
You need to listen to watch what Farage is actually saying rather than what others are alleging. He promised efficiency in Reform councils, not cost savings.

Cost savings are pledged for central government.

papa smurf 17-02-2026 21:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210745)
Who would you put your money on?
i don't gamble

1andrew1 17-02-2026 22:49
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jem (Post 36210697)
No Seph is quite right, doing well in the local elections could actually prove to be disastrous for Reform in the long term.
The other side of the coin is that Reform UK will gain experience of being in power so will govern more competently than they have done to date in Kent, etc.

Hugh 18-02-2026 19:49
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https://archive.ph/qFoR4

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Triple lock on pensions is open to debate, says Nigel Farage

The Reform UK leader refuses to commit to keeping the policy if he gets into power, despite Robert Jenrick saying he supports it

Reform UK is not yet committed to keeping the triple lock on pensions if it wins power, Nigel Farage has said, despite the party’s new Treasury spokesman, Robert Jenrick, saying he is a “supporter” of the policy.

Jenrick said he backed the triple lock, which raises pensions payments by the highest of inflation, earnings or 2.5 per cent.

“I’ve always been a supporter of the triple lock. It’s incredibly important to provide dignity and security to older people on fixed incomes in the last decades of their life, particularly at a time like this where there’s such challenging circumstances with the cost of living,” Jenrick said at a press conference in London on Wednesday, his first as the party’s Treasury spokesman.

Shortly afterwards, Farage appeared to question whether the policy would form part of Reform’s election manifesto, saying it was still “open for debate”. The party leader has consistently refused to commit to keeping the pensions triple lock if he got into power.

When asked whether he had changed his mind, he replied: “No, I haven’t changed my mind. It’s open for debate. Everything is open for debate.”

1andrew1 19-02-2026 01:43
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I'm with Farage on this.

papa smurf 19-02-2026 09:38
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210786)
I'm with Farage on this.
The first defection from the MRLP

Hugh 21-02-2026 15:05
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics...fice-js7f750cr

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Reform MP refuses to vacate constituency office after defecting

A former Conservative MP is locked in a battle with his old party over the use of his constituency office.

Andrew Rosindell, who defected to Reform UK last month, is in dispute with the Tories over the use of Margaret Thatcher House, his office in his Romford constituency. The property is owned in trust by the Conservatives but Rosindell is refusing to vacate, Politico reported.

Rosindell, who was a shadow Foreign Office minister under Kemi Badenoch, announced his defection days after Robert Jenrick abandoned the Tories. Jenrick was sacked by Badenoch after she learnt of his plans to defect.

Rosindell announced his defection on X and said that the main reason for his departure was his opposition to the handover of sovereignty of the Chagos Islands to Mauritius.

The Romford Conservative Association has been put into special measures after Rosindell’s defection was followed by a number of local councillors. The measures are to ensure “good governance and protect party assets”, Conservative Campaign Headquarters said.

It added: “As the property is held in trust for the Conservative Party and its members, the association is currently seeking clarification from Mr Rosindell for the legal basis on which he continues to occupy Margaret Thatcher House. This is a procedural matter concerning property governance, and we will not comment further while correspondence is ongoing.”

It is understood that the dispute centres on the terms of the rental agreement given that the property is his constituency office as an MP. The property, on Western Road, is a local hub for Conservative party operations and constituent services in the Havering area. It has previously had union flags, the St George’s Cross and blue posters for Rosindell outside it
The first comment from a Times reader was amusing (imho)…

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He wants to leave and keep the benefits of remaining

Hugh 22-02-2026 15:27
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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1771769892

I wonder who’s funding his holiday, sorry, "fact finding trip" to the Maldives?

Carth 22-02-2026 16:29
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Probably the very same people that fund all the jaunts to exotic far flung places that any politician goes (or attempts to go) on . . . it seems they just don't trust all the information at hand on their computers and need to 'fly' places to get the information they seek, or attend a meeting that could be done online much cheaper.

1andrew1 23-02-2026 14:29
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36211065)
Probably the very same people that fund all the jaunts to exotic far flung places that any politician goes (or attempts to go) on . . . it seems they just don't trust all the information at hand on their computers and need to 'fly' places to get the information they seek, or attend a meeting that could be done online much cheaper.
I asked AI to summarise this in two words it and it came up with "Foreign billionaire". ;)

I had earlier misread Farage's quote as saying "I have been denied access to Clacton by the UK government, which would have reasonably explained his absence from the town.

Sephiroth 23-02-2026 16:34
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
AI got the Maccabee lockout wrong. Prolly got this one wrong too.

Carth 23-02-2026 17:06
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I generally ignore people who feel the need to ask AI anything, if they can't think for themselves why bother with a conversation :D

Sephiroth 23-02-2026 17:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36211131)
I generally ignore people who feel the need to ask AI anything, if they can't think for themselves why bother with a conversation :D
That's why I replied to Andrew on your behalf.

I asked AI to describe "1Andew!". The first reply was:

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1andrew1 is an active, long-term user on the RMweb model railway forum, recognized for providing detailed insights into the industry, particularly concerning Hornby, Airfix, Bachmann, and Kader Holdings. They frequently discuss financial results, corporate structure, and market trends, with recent posts covering potential closures and sales performance.

Hugh 24-02-2026 10:24
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36211114)
I asked AI to summarise this in two words it and it came up with "Foreign billionaire". ;)

I had earlier misread Farage's quote as saying "I have been denied access to Clacton by the UK government, which would have reasonably explained his absence from the town.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211125)
AI got the Maccabee lockout wrong. Prolly got this one wrong too.
I’m sure it will turn up (eventually) in his "Member’s Interests", and we will be enlightened as to who paid for his one-day private jet flight* to the Maldives…

Oh, and there’s this piece of nonsense…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1771925463

*nothing says "man of the people" and "anti-elite" than a private jet flight to/from the Maldives

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 10:31
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Why should it matter who paid for Farage's Maldives adventure?

Hugh 24-02-2026 10:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211166)
Why should it matter who paid for Farage's Maldives adventure?
From the Register of Members Interests

https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-...ial-interests/

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The Register of Members' Financial Interests contains information about any financial interest an MP has, or any benefit they receive, which someone else might reasonably consider to influence what they say or do as an MP.
For instance, one might wonder why someone would pay an MP £11,000 an hour for four hours "work" (maximum) per month, or another would pay the same MP £15,000 per hour for two hours work, or another that would pay that MP £10,000 per hour for two hours work…

https://members.parliament.uk/member...teredinterests

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 11:02
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If his Maldives trip was a benefit, then surely he'd declare it. He might declare it anyway. So what's the problem?

Dingbat 24-02-2026 12:32
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MPS have visited Chagos before, but they went through the correct Foreign Office and MOD channels to get security clearance and permission, and flew in on an RAF aircraft.

They didn’t turn up on spec with a camera in hand, knowing they’d be turned away just so they could play the victim.

Hugh 24-02-2026 13:14
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211168)
If his Maldives trip was a benefit, then surely he'd declare it. He might declare it anyway. So what's the problem?
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any benefit they receive, which someone else might reasonably consider to influence what they say or do as an MP.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you...

If you believe millionaires/corporates pay someone 11k per hour or provide a private jet for a publicity stunt, and don't expect anything in return, I've got a bridge you might want to buy (or some magic beans...)

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 13:28
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211182)
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you...

If you believe millionaires/corporates pay someone 11k per hour or provide a private jet for a publicity stunt, and don't expect anything in return, I've got a bridge you might want to buy (or some magic beans...)
Your non-objective analysis does you no credit. You quoted:

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any benefit they receive, which someone else might reasonably consider to influence what they say or do as an MP.
The "... say or do as an MP ...." is understood to be applied to pecuniary matters where the MP benefits. Whilst I cannot deny the possibility of his activity being a political stunt, the political activity in which he engaged is valid and in the public interest.

Just because you don't like Farage ....

Hugh 24-02-2026 18:15
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So why would someone hire him a private jet for a day trip to the Maldives?


What's in it for them?


Paying someone £11k an hour for four hours work a month would seem like a fairly large pecuniary advantage to most people, and because he is not yet in a position to "repay" the largesse, doesn't rule out the possibility of the favour being "banked".

Can you provide any reasoning why someone would pay anyone £11k per hour, and not expect anything in return?

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 20:50
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I refer you to my reply of 10:02.

Hugh 24-02-2026 21:59
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211219)
I refer you to my reply of 10:02.
Which paraphrased Farage when questioned about this sort of thing…

<cough, cough, nothing to see here, move along - no, no, let me finish (without actually saying anything>

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He might declare it anyway. So what's the problem?
No "might" about it, otherwise he’ll be doing an Owen Paterson.

Anyhoo, back to my (oft repeated) question - what benefit is NF bringing to a company* that they are willing to pay him £11,000 per hour, every three months…

*a company, which, last year, had assets of £2.6 million, but this year has paid NF £226k (nearly 8% of their net assets)

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 22:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211227)
Which paraphrased Farage when questioned about this sort of thing…

<cough, cough, nothing to see here, move along - no, no, let me finish (without actually saying anything>



No "might" about it, otherwise he’ll be doing an Owen Paterson.

Anyhoo, back to my (oft repeated) question - what benefit is NF bringing to a company* that they are willing to pay him £11,000 per hour, every three months…

*a company, which, last year, had assets of £2.6 million, but this year has paid NF £226k (nearly 8% of their net assets)
Absolutely no idea. Maybe necessary to await anything Farage puts into the Register of Interests.

Hugh 24-02-2026 22:14
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211228)
Absolutely no idea. Maybe necessary to await anything Farage puts into the Register of Interests.
Not really, as he has already declared the earnings from Direct Bullion (on Companies House as DB LONDON LTD, with only one Officer).

Pretty sure if you found out Keir Starmer was getting paid £11k per hour to be a Brand Ambassador for a company working out of a Serviced Office/Coworking Space, you wouldn’t be so blasé…

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 22:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211229)
Not really, as he has already declared the earnings from Direct Bullion (on Companies House as DB LONDON LTD, with only one Officer).

Pretty sure if you found out Keir Starmer was getting paid £11k per hour to be a Brand Ambassador for a company working out of a Serviced Office/Coworking Space, you wouldn’t be so blasé…
Starmer's doing enough damage to the UK - and very openly.

The only thing you've got on Farage is to watch what he declares in the RoI.

papa smurf 24-02-2026 23:05
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211230)
Starmer's doing enough damage to the UK - and very openly.

The only thing you've got on Farage is to watch what he declares in the RoI.
isn't that the thing that starmer keeps "forgetting" to update

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 23:15
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36211231)
isn't that the thing that starmer keeps "forgetting" to update
Starmer's prolly got nothing to declare now because who'd have him?

1andrew1 25-02-2026 09:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211230)
Starmer's doing enough damage to the UK - and very openly.

The only thing you've got on Farage is to watch what he declares in the RoI.
Farage has manage to do more damage to the UK whilst in opposition than even Starmer has achieved whilst in power. Hopefully, the British public will see this by the time the next election comes about.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211232)
Starmer's prolly got nothing to declare now because who'd have him?
True :D

Failed Conservative politicians go to Reform if Reform are gracious enough to accept them. Where do failed Labour ones go? Reform was hyping up some important Labour figures joining the Party last month but I don't think anything came of that.

Carth 25-02-2026 10:54
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
It's getting to be a lot like the football, get rid of a manager for being crap and then immediately hire a manager that someone sacked last week for being crap.

End of the day it's all snouts in troughs, no matter what colour the trough is

Sephiroth 25-02-2026 11:13
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36211237)
Farage has manage to do more damage to the UK whilst in opposition than even Starmer has achieved whilst in power. Hopefully, the British public will see this by the time the next election comes about.

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True :D

Failed Conservative politicians go to Reform if Reform are gracious enough to accept them. Where do failed Labour ones go? Reform was hyping up some important Labour figures joining the Party last month but I don't think anything came of that.

Quote:
Hopefully, the British public will see this [Farage] by the time the next election comes about.
Tomorrow's by-election? That'll be fun.

Quote:
Failed Conservative politicians go to Reform if Reform are gracious enough to accept them. Where do failed Labour ones go? Reform was hyping up some important Labour figures joining the Party last month but I don't think anything came of that.
Good point! Indeed, excellent paragraph.

papa smurf 25-02-2026 11:24
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36211237)
Farage has manage to do more damage to the UK whilst in opposition than even Starmer has achieved whilst in power. Hopefully, the British public will see this by the time the next election comes about.

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True :D

Failed Conservative politicians go to Reform if Reform are gracious enough to accept them. Where do failed Labour ones go? Reform was hyping up some important Labour figures joining the Party last month but I don't think anything came of that.


what has he done ?

Hugh 25-02-2026 11:25
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89k0g7vexeo


Quote:
A Reform UK activist who had been campaigning ahead of Thursday's Gorton and Denton by-election has been suspended over racist and antisemitic comments he made on social media.

For several days Reform UK refused to say whether Adam Mitula, an interim campaign manager in the Tameside area, had been suspended from the party but Mitula confirmed it on Monday.

It comes after evidence was published appearing to show he posted a highly offensive racial slur aimed at black people, and also made what appeared to be a derogatory remark about Jewish women.

He also appears to have agreed with a Holocaust denier that the number of Jewish people murdered by the Nazis had been exaggerated. Mitula said his comments have been taken out of context.
These were the "out of context" posts he made..

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/02/2.jpg




https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/02/3.jpg

Sephiroth 25-02-2026 11:39
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36211242)
what has he done ?
I know you're asking Andrew, Papa.

But I need to say that Farage has done no harm to the UK. Doesn't mean I'm confident that his party, in government, could mend Broken Britain - it's so far gone down the pan.

But rather Farage than Starmer. My ideal would be an alliance with Kemi, who needs to remove the losers that languish on her front bench (Cleverly, Atkins, Stride, etc)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211244)
Good job he was sniffed out. Labour is full of anti-semites.

1andrew1 26-02-2026 20:13
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36211242)
what has he done ?
Made us all poorer by successfully campaigning for the UK to leave the EU. In practice this means fewer jobs and higher taxes for those working.

Hugh 27-02-2026 08:31
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Matt Goodwin?

More like Matt Badloss… ;)

Sephiroth 27-02-2026 10:31
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 

Quote:
Mr Goodwin also addressed the results on X. He wrote: "We are losing our country. A dangerous Muslim sectarianism has emerged.

"We have only one general election left to save Britain. Vote Reform every chance you get.

"I will continue the fight. I will always fight for you. I will stand at the next general election."

Asked earlier at the count if the result showed that Reform's progress was 'faltering', Mr Goodwin said: "We have more than doubled our vote in Labour's backyard. I think we've embarrassed Labour in one of their strongest seats. I think if we can do this here, we can do this pretty much anywhere.

"Lucy Powell said Reform finishing ahead of Labour in Greater Manchester would be existential for the Labour Party. What you're seeing today is the rise of the new politics.

"On one side is Green. They want to legalise heroin and crack cocaine and have open borders. On the other side is Reform. We want to control the borders, invest in our own people and prioritise the British hard-working majority.

"This is the future of British politics. British people are going to wake up tomorrow and think we have a choice. Do we want to go with mad Zack and the Greens or do we want to go with Nigel Farage and a Reform government?

"Every Labour MP will wake up tomorrow, look at the Reform vote and think 'Oh gosh, we are in trouble'. We have planted a flag in northern England."
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...arage-33499496

Hugh 27-02-2026 11:28
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
I think if we can do this here, we can do this pretty much anywhere.
So they can lose pretty much anywhere - cool…

btw, I see the Conservatives lost their deposit…

Sephiroth 27-02-2026 11:32
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211355)
So they can lose pretty much anywhere - cool…

btw, I see the Conservatives lost their deposit…
In reality, "... we can stiff Labour anywhere".

1andrew1 27-02-2026 11:34
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211355)
So they can lose pretty much anywhere - cool…
At least they have the next conference song lined up to replace Insomnia:
'If we can lose it there, we can lose it anywhere!'' :D

Hugh 27-02-2026 11:38
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211357)
In reality, "... we can stiff Labour anywhere".
Coming second is still losing… ;)

denphone 27-02-2026 11:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211345)
Matt Goodwin?

More like Matt Badloss… ;)
Yep there were plenty of sore losers this morning and a plethora of excuses by several political parties as well.

Perhaps politicians need to do less ignoring and more listening to their constituents instead of apeing policies from other political parties.

Sephiroth 27-02-2026 13:51
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211362)
Coming second is still losing… ;)
You don't get it. Labour is the enemy; Reform is an option.

Chris 28-02-2026 18:54
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211362)
Coming second is still losing… ;)
Anyone want to tell Ed?

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/02/1.jpeg

Hugh 28-02-2026 19:47
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36211450)
And they don’t even have a non-elected Shadow Chancellor!

tbf, the Lib Dem’s do have eight times the number of MPs than Reform, and all of them were actually elected whilst standing for that Party ;)

Chris 03-03-2026 08:32
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211451)
And they don’t even have a non-elected Shadow Chancellor!

tbf, the Lib Dem’s do have eight times the number of MPs than Reform, and all of them were actually elected whilst standing for that Party ;)
You’re right, they really must be

WINNING HERE!

(Wherever that is)

Itshim 04-03-2026 18:25
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Former Labour mayor of Newham Sir Robin Wales and ex-councillor Clive Furness have joined Reform UK.so even Labour are now jumping ship

nomadking 04-03-2026 19:17
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211451)
And they don’t even have a non-elected Shadow Chancellor!

tbf, the Lib Dem’s do have eight times the number of MPs than Reform, and all of them were actually elected whilst standing for that Party ;)
But not when the SDP or Lib Dems were first formed.
With any new party, it takes time.

Hugh 09-03-2026 12:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
2 Attachment(s)
What Farage said was happening

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1773056671

What actually happened

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1773056671

OLD BOY 09-03-2026 13:28
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36212064)
I doubt this means what has been assumed. Trump himself may not even have been aware of Farage’s presence. He’s a bit busy at the moment, as you have possibly gleaned.

papa smurf 09-03-2026 13:33
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36212066)
I doubt this means what has been assumed. Trump himself may not even have been aware of Farage’s presence. He’s a bit busy at the moment, as you have possibly gleaned.
yes donnys busy murdering school girls and destroying the world economy oorah usa usa simplify

Hugh 09-03-2026 13:36
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36212066)
I doubt this means what has been assumed. Trump himself may not even have been aware of Farage’s presence. He’s a bit busy at the moment, as you have possibly gleaned.
Point missed, completely….

For instance

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-news-updates

Quote:
Reform UK leader told a ‘Save Chagos Boat Party’ yesterday he would be raising the issue in his meeting with the president
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2933445.html

Quote:
Nigel Farage is set to meet Donald Trump at his Mar-a-Lago mansion on Friday to discuss Sir Keir Starmer’s Chagos Islands deal, as the war in the Middle East escalates...

… Mr Farage, who has long opposed the Chagos deal and dubbed it a “surrender” treaty, told an event in Westminster on Thursday that he would discuss it at Mr Trump’s estate in Florida.

“We think this is the central plan for this government’s foreign policy and we are beating them back,” Mr Farage said, according to GB News.

“President Trump has almost understood the deal, but I will be dining at Mar-a-Lago tomorrow night, and we will reinforce the message.”
Farage had told everyone he was going to meet with Trump - this statement was not congruent with actuality…

1andrew1 10-03-2026 16:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Looks like Sir Keir's not the only one partial to a u-turn or two.
Quote:
We should not join war on Iran, says Farage in U-turn

Nigel Farage has declared that Britain should not join Donald Trump’s war on Iran.

The Reform UK leader said the military could not “offer anything of value” to America or Israel.

He had previously argued that Britain should “do all we can” to support US-Israeli action in the Middle East. Richard Tice, his deputy, has also voiced support for bombing Iran.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...1005cc8e&ei=31

Sephiroth 10-03-2026 16:53
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 

I think that Andrew could have provided the fuller version rather than select what he did and present it as a u-turn. Disappointing.

Quote:
Nigel Farage has declared that Britain should not join Donald Trump’s war on Iran.

The Reform UK leader said the military could not “offer anything of value” to America or Israel.

He had previously argued that Britain should “do all we can” to support US-Israeli action in the Middle East. Richard Tice, his deputy, has also voiced support for bombing Iran.

But Mr Farage said on Tuesday: “Given that we can’t even send a Royal Naval vessel to defend British sovereign territory at an RAF base we certainly don’t have the capability to offer anything of any value to the Americans or the Israelis.

“I, as leader, am saying to you – if we can’t even defend Cyprus, let’s not get ourselves involved in another foreign war.”

Carth 10-03-2026 17:23
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Well . . . they (the Yanks) did say some nasty things about us and their war, so screw them anyway :D

1andrew1 10-03-2026 17:28
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36212137)

I think that Andrew could have provided the fuller version rather than select what he did and present it as a u-turn. Disappointing.
I just reproduced the first paragraph and a link. If we're providing an excuse quote from one side, then for balance we should provide a quote from the other.
Quote:
A Labour source said: “Reform spent the past week saying they’d bomb Iran.
“Now they’re trying to change tack, leaving their foreign policy in an almighty mess. That’s not serious leadership.”

Carth 10-03-2026 17:30
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Labour mentioning 'serious leadership'

:rofl:

Sephiroth 10-03-2026 17:33
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36212143)
I just reproduced the first paragraph and a link. If we're providing an excuse quote from one side, then for balance we should provide a quote from the other.
Of course you did. But equally, of course, you either didn't read the full quote or you deliberately omitted the additional part that I posted.

It changes the sentiment totally from the impression (u-turn) you were trying to make.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36212145)
Labour mentioning 'serious leadership'

:rofl:
What's left for those fools to do other than rely on certain Forum members to punt their line!

Paul 10-03-2026 18:21
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36212146)
It changes the sentiment totally from the impression (u-turn) you were trying to make.
It changes nothing, its still a U Turn, whatever the excuses for doing so.

Sephiroth 10-03-2026 18:33
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36212155)
It changes nothing, its still a U Turn, whatever the excuses for doing so.
I beg to differ. U-turn carries sentiment here because Andrew was comparing Farage to the U-turn Meister - Starmer.

Farage was rationalising his position.

Paul 10-03-2026 18:36
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Begging is not a requirement. ;)

"rationalising" it (aka making an excuse) doesnt change the fact its a u turn.

Dingbat 10-03-2026 18:46
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Is he upset that his super special friend Donald wasn't there to see him when he made a super special trip to Mar a Lago?

1andrew1 10-03-2026 19:30
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36212163)
Is he upset that his super special friend Donald wasn't there to see him when he made a super special trip to Mar a Lago?
I think Farage has seen that his fawning to Trump has not paid off as Trump has favoured building up diplomatic ties with the UK through official routes. Having to side-step the President at his club in Florida always looked a bit tenuous, no matter how nicely Farage dressed it up.

So, Farage may have taken note of the opinion polls and seen that the UK's not particularly keen on another war giving us higher fuel prices, holiday travel uncertainty, more refugees and perhaps another Iraq situation. And u-turned accordingly.


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