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I'm not sure which room she's meant to be good at reading (departures lounge?) but it certainly was not the court room! :D

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30p Lee saying ignore the law

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Oh good. There's lots of things I'm off to do today then :)

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And this is the Tory party which was supposedly once the party of "law and order".

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No just change it.

Anyway in 12 months time it becomes Labour's problem.

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Really good point, Den. It shows you how far the current form of the Tory Party have come and dangerous they are now.

They are really UKIP in political terms. Put Farage as the leader and the job is finished.

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No, he said ignore it now…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ts-Rwanda.html

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I know he did, I'm saying just change it.

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There's an idea.

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"lefty lawyers"….

<snigger>

Did you just call five Law Lords of the U.K. Supreme Court "lefty lawyers"?

btw, Braverman never earned her QC/KC on merit, she was given it when she was appointed Attorney General - normally, KCs are selected by an independent panel of senior lawyers, a retired judge and non-lawyers once a year in what is known as the competition. Applying to become a KC can take between three and five years, so it's important to prepare far ahead.

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics...%20far%20ahead.

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:tiptoe:

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Oh yes he's proved he's good at reading the room before, like when he asked that homeless guy he was serving in the soup kitchen if he worked in business or finance


Enjoyed the departure lounge bit btw

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It's always nice when someone finds enjoyment in something they've misunderstood :dunce:

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https://metro.co.uk/2022/12/24/rishi...ness-17992832/

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You're right for a change, I blame the knackered old eyeballs for that btw, I could edit the post to say when she said living in a tent is a lifestyle choice but lets leave it up to show how out of touch they both are

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https://twitter.com/BritainElects/st...RFuEb3ujA&s=19

Anybody heard from OB lately? His vote is desperately needed! :D

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Very magnanimous of you (I think). Too late for Hugh though who burrowed down the same rabbit hole...

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If, through my error, I have bought you pleasure, my time here has not been wasted…


Anyhoo…

In yesterday’s Times Diary

Said by the person who was the Minister for Brexit Opportunities and Government efficiency…

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You know that if they all wore red noses and had very large shoes, would we really be able to tell the difference :)

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You're too kind; if a little rash ;).

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Try Sudocrem…

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Didn't work; you're still here.

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A good reason why he won't call a snap election!
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...727907fb&ei=39

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Bit of a bummer when he's just had that pool put in. Never mind sure he's got a bigger one in California lined up. It's tough at the top.

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That pool would be my equivalent of having to leave half a pint behind when the taxi turned up. A minor first world problem. :)

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A snap election was never on the cards, was it?

The Conservatives have over a year to turn this around, and in the meantime not only could things improve, but Starmer may well face difficulties of his own.

I wouldn’t write off Rishi Sunak yet. He’s not my choice as Leader but he’s far better than the opposition.

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How's railing against 20mph speed limits working out for them?

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As I said, there’s a year to go yet. There have been mid-term polls before, jfman. You need to learn from them.

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What's he better at, levelling up? Reappointing sacked ministers after they've been sacked only to basically have to sack them again? Asking homeless people if they work in business, he's definitely better at that one

Really I thought Sue Ellen was sacked for criticising the police unnecessarily and having a hand in causing the violence on remembrance sunday, in other words for being deeply unpleasant, not for her wisdom, which seemed in short supply that week anyway

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She certainly gave the impression she'd been sniffing something, not sure it was coffee ...

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...use-conviction

Tory racist to stand down at the next election. Spares Rishi a by election I guess.

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Pretty sure it’s not coffee you and Sue-Ellen Cassiana are smelling…

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There were rumours that he would call a snap election if the Lords did not back him against the High Court ruling on Rwanda.

Sunak's the best the Party has, given Johnson's cull of Remainers. If party members like Seph had followed my advice and voted in Sunak instead of Truss, Starmer's job would be harder.

We've not seen Starmer in power so he's hard to judge. He's coming a bit unstuck on the Palestine issue but Sunak's not judged the mood of the country right either on the issue.

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It doesn't take much to be called a racist in this country, does it? Alwadaei was being a pain and really aggressive. We all say things we don't mean literally when provoked like that. This was just such an occasion.

The law needs amending to inject a bit of common sense into human relationships.

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There’s nothing “common sense” about being racist. It should be stamped out, by law if required.

It’s a shame that provocation didn’t allow him time to filter his own thoughts and distill them into an acceptable form of words.

The easiest way, as ever, to not be called racist in this country is to not say racist things.

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I sincerely hoped, when Sunak took over, that he could somehow recover from this dumpster fire of a party, and steer the Tories if not to a narrow win, to at least a Labour minority government but he's now been proven to be completely impotent as Prime Minister.

He has shown nothing, absolutely nothing. Instead of doing something, anything about the Cost of Living, Small boats, Immigration, Crime......he's talking about Maths until you're 18 and incremental smoking bans.

He is just presiding over poorly managed decline, and again, and again Labour politicians and Starmer go on TV and say nothing, offer nothing their tactic is to shut the F'up because they will win a majority that way.

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Except there is.
Like many things these days its been hijacked by a few to be used when "common sense" clearly shows its not.

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I am sure you are the perfect human being, jfman, who has never said an unkind word to anyone, even when prodded and provoked mercilessly.

Although that is not my experience when dealing with your barbs on this forum.

My point, to get back to it, was that a simple comment in response to provocation, does not mean you are a racist.

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Sunak should never have taken over. We need somebody strong to lead this country and someone to face down these lazy name calling cancel merchants who continually take a holier than thou attitude and preach woke nonsense.

We have lost our way and Labour would only take us into a very dark tunnel from which we may never emerge.

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Any proof of this or is it your typical lazy thinking as the Conservatives have been in power 14 years and in that time have gutted public services and local services and everything else along the way..

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Having now read the article, I find nothing racist in the altercation.

Alwadaei confronted Stewart at the Bahrainian embassy, shouting at him.

Alwadaei, who is originally from Bahrain.

Stewart shouted, “go back to Bahrain”.

Where’s the racism, if Alwadaei was actually born in the U.K. you could argue Stewart made a racial assumption, which could be argued to be racist, but on this occasion he was wholly accurate.

If I was in Bahrain and shouted something similar to a Bahrainian politician, (for which I would no doubt be arrested) and the MP said to me “ go back to England” . I doubt anyone would construe that as racist.

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During which time we have had austerity following the election of the Conservatives, hampered by the coalition with the Lib Dems, two odd years of Covid that Starmer would have mishandled due to his obsession with lockdowns and restrictions, and on top of that, the Ukraine war.

The civil service is doing a pretty good job of destroying public services, for example with its failure to direct money being injected into the NHS, preferring instead to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds on making woke appointments rather than into front line services.

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You really don’t understand irony, do you?

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Speaking of "name calling"…

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Where was I wrong, and why?

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Again, you seem to not understand the concept of irony - you railed against "name calling" by name calling and ad hominem statements, using value-free emotive statements.

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I called jfman a perfect human being. I’m sure he was chuffed.

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No inheritance tax changes …. no ISA increases.....Rubbish budget

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The other thing is that the tax thresholds are still static even after a year of high inflation. It's a massive stealth tax.

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This is a massive stealth tax.

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tbf, something that would benefit under 4% of the population during a cost of living crisis wouldn’t be good optics…

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If there was any spare cash going maybe it should have been spent on our crumbling roads, railways, schools and hospitals, rather than a pre-election bribe. Radical I know.

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NEW: May election on the way? Tonight I’m told Tory party been instructed to be ready for a election from Jan 1st, with Issac Levido (Sunak campaign chief) joining CCHQ on that date full time.

Note: option on table doesn’t meant it’s going to happen. But the NI cut Jan 6 opens the door for May election.

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status...54719163998367

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And by pure coincidence, by using a Statutory Instrument, the Conservative Government has just pushed through a new regulation on Election spending - it almost doubles the permitted spending in UK elections, with the national party spending limits for the next general election increased from around £20m to around £36m.

Without any debate, scrutiny or vote in Parliament.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/...0231235_en.pdf

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The Tory **** party booted out just in time for summer…..give us some nice mid-year warm weather and suddenly I’ll be looking forward to my 50th for the first time ever :D

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I do not doubt that your number "under 4%" is correct.

But there are financial advisors that make your assets disappear from the UK or they magically appear under the beneficiary's name.

The simplest one is the "7 year rule".

That's why it's only 4%

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Sadly tax cuts was always going to be straight out of the Tory playbook in the run up to a general election.

It might win them a few more base votes but next year is unlikely to be a great year economically and public services and everything else is still in a very grim state under 13 years of Tory government.

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There isn’t any spare cash and the NI cut is just smoke and mirrors. Whatever you save on paying less NI you will already have more than compensated the Treasury for by the reduced real-terms value of your income tax free allowance.

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They are rotters aren't they?

We should still be spending more on our national infrastructure than obsessing about tax 'cuts' and getting re-elected.

The electorate need to get real too. The NHS there when you need it, schools not falling down, roads and rail that works, or 2p less in NI contributions?

You get what you pay and vote for.

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This chart is quite something.

Attachment 30783

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"You have never had it so bad" seems a apt phrase :) A counter point to:

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Why is that surprising? The Conservatives inherited a massive budget deficit, spent billions on helping people to survive Covid and helping families and businesses to cope with the energy crisis.

We’re you expecting some change from all that public spending?

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Indeed

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2023/11/2.jpg

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2023/11/3.jpg

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...0a%20%2427.7bn

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Well she gets a pass because I’ve got a seventies mindset.

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:rofl: the one they barely made a dent in before 2019 but were just about to when the pandemic hit, that deficit?

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You have to give them a pass on the COVID debt. It was universally supported and the consequences of not having the support in place could have been much worse. A crisis can happen and the deficit shoots up but it'll come back down again since it wasn't structural. Look at 2008 for the same thing.

The main economic failure of the Tories was the lack of growth during their tenure. They did austerity but that helped depress growth making the cuts worse and now we have the worst of all worlds: low growth, high debt and poor public services. It's a nightmare combination. We didn't take advantage of record-low interest rates to invest and drive growth either. Just a decade of stagnation and failure, even by their own goals.

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I agree with you on the Covid debt and the lack of investment. We've certainly borrowed! And we're now struggling behind most of the EU on growth except Germany which was over-dependent on Russian gas.

When we talk about austerity, it's important to note that overall government expenditure has generally risen year on year. Cuts in funding to local authorities have been tough but the savings there have more than been made up for by increased spending on pensions and health care for an ageing population.

Our problem has been that people want first class public services but the funding from taxes is insufficient despite our record percentage of tax take, due to our ageing population. Strong economic growth would help but putting up additional trade barriers with our largest trading block doesn't help here.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1700779416

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...-november-2023
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7...08b21b778e87d1

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and see you fogot to put the - for brexit and every other country had to deal with covid and Ukraine war

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https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/to...legal%20system.

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Oh that's good, .. priceless :)

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Sovereignty. Those magic words fed back! :D

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Mmmm... the taste of Sovereignty first thing in the morning, nothing beats it :)

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67549044

I don't understand why Sunak pulls these stunts when his original pitch was that he was the grown-up who would make 'long-term decisions'.

It comes across as childish and petty. We all know the Greeks want the Elgin Marbles back so to cancel a meeting because they expressed the same position they've expressed many times before is just idiotic.

He clearly is doing it to provoke a positive reaction from voters that he is sticking up for the country but who really cares about this? It just looks weird.

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Only my opinion mind but its awful statesmanship by Sunak.

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I know you could argue that it's the thin end of the wedge, but he could have really made a name for himself.

I don't think anybody really cares if we gave them back to Greece, it would be a fantastic gesture, could help build relations and trade.

Downside may be that an orderly queue forms from other people wanting their stuff back, but so be it.

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Sunak's looking like a Wilko Farage. I can't imagine Cameron is particularly happy!

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It's not even about having to return them or not. It's just a stupid reason to cancel the meeting. You can simply say 'No, we disagree on that' and move on. It's not like the Greek PM was especially rude about it, he was simply asked a question and answered it with the answer every single Greek politician would always say.

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I agree Farage wouldn't have done this.

Regarding Cameron, as Foreign Secretary, the PM's given him a load of mess to clear up. That's why I think Cameron won't be particularly happy with Sunak's snub.

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Returning the Parthenon Marbles would be an easy and lasting way to reaffirm the bond between our two great cultures. Our stewardship has been successful, imho, the Marbles belong with the people of Greece.

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The fact I have no clue what the "Parthenon Marbles" are pretty much answers how pathatic this is/was.
Give them back, who cares ... like me I doubt most people even know what they are.

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Starmer nailed the marbles in PMQs today.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/s...38511920988444

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Charlie Farlie delivered his COP28 speech in his Greek tie today. For good measure he was sporting a Greek flag pocket square as well. He’s turning out to be better than I thought he would.

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Yeap.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67589075

He has been wearing a variety of Greek flag ties, for a month or so now, during the visit of the South Koreans, Climate change etc.

My understanding is that he will ditch the Scottish kilt for

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2023/12/2.jpg

Camilla is thought to be very turned on with the mini skirt and Charlie says his nuts will be kept worm with the stockings, instead of tangling free in the cold weather of Scotland.

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Only 1 in 5 supporting the Govt? Why do they have the cheek to keep hanging on ?

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Ha ha! Superb trolling!

Talk about kicking a man when he's down. :D:D:D

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Given talking to those or Sunak, I know what most would prefer! ;)

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They will hang on to the bitter end imho but sometimes doing that just prolongs the inevitable electoral hammering that is coming their way.

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Reform UK doing well, ahead of the Liberal Democrats now. But the Conservatives have some great all-weather support, as a trip to Wokingham would no doubt illustrate.

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As much as I don't support Reform UK, they'll get zero MPs. Such is our bonkers electoral system.

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Agreed.

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:D

Apparently when his late lamented mother did this sort of thing it was known as ‘brooch diplomacy’. You can communicate acres of displeasure or signal support with a carefully chosen brooch. Charlie doesn’t have that option, so ties and hankies will have to do.