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Actually I think the public were sticking to the rules admirably right up until Gollum went to barnard castle for an eye test or had you forgotten he was part of government conveniently and I didn't think I conflated anything, just wondered why you can't be disappointed with both of them

We can focus on the present without forgetting the past and we certainly can hold them both to account without the need for a league table of who was worse

And Lord Rothermere having dinner with Hitler and moaning about the influx of Jews entering the country, somethings never change with that rag

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Yes mainly by you

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Gosh, I hope they find someone as a leader that hasn't broken any lock down rules . . . not that we'd know until the knives start flying again :D

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….. as long as it’s none of the current nodding fools on the front bench, particularly Raab.

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Still confused about Patel. Smiling at Johnson today, cringing at him last week! :confused:

We've heard from the likes of Gary Streeter and Anthony Mangnall today but the silence from the leafy environs of RG40 is perturbing. When is Redwood going to help put Johnson out of his misery?

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I'd sooner have David Davis. I may disagree with him on Brexit but he seems to be a man of honour.

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Mrs Raab needs to get down to M&S for some new underware as he sits on that front bench looking like a chap whose boxers are too tight.

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OB’s got competition for Johnson’s affections…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1643843705

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No but I say it.

FFS we are talking parties that no one knew of in any of the lockdowns so how people can have foresight that the government was breaking its own rules, at the time, is beyond me. It’s utterly ludicrous to suggest the people who died of Covid, many did do because they decided to ignore rules because the government did too, we now only know, no one knew back then.

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Maybe round your area ? not so much around here.
I saw the size of gatherings, and distancing rules, "bent" many times. ;)

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How do you know it harmed no-one? Where did Boris catch Covid? That almost killed him.

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Understand that Conservative MPs have moved on from "Wait to the Gray Report" to "Wait to the "May report". The latter being how well the Party fares in the local elections in May, and not anything written by the previous PM.

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I'd prefer they wait for the Genetal Election defeat before changing leader. Suits me and the Opposition ! :)

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Even if the Conservatives win the next election and Johnson is still leader, I doubt he would retain his Uxbridge seat.

That's a calculation some of the more astute Conservative Party MPs are surely making.

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Freudian slip?

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All this party stuff set my spider sense tingling about a photo I saw in my google news feed around the time of Brexit. Anyway, we were talking about it yesterday in a team meeting so a quick google and we found this. It was published in the Daily Mail on 26th December 2020 and the photo of Borris with his feet up and the empty beer bottles on the desk is from 'earlier this week' so could be around the time of the so-called parties! (if you look carefully at one of the other photos, you can also see what could be a tray with some nice cut crystal whisky glasses but is there a decanter?)

The other question we had though, what is Borris drinking on the photo where he's looking at the big pile of documents?

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Good research!

The empty beer bottles look like Heineken alcohol-free. Possibly carefully placed there for photos to look casual but sensible?

The tinny next to the big pile of documents is some kind of craft beer but whether it is alcohol-free or not I don't know. I suspect it is a regular 5% craft beer.

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I'd say it's 'Bishop's Finger' 5.4%, not that I'm an expert on these things from a distance ;)

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Great lines! :D

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I've traced it!
Spinnaker Tap from Camerons. 4.7%
https://cameronsbrewery.shop/product...ker-ipa-440ml/

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

Cameron's Spinnaker IPA 4.7%

https://cameronsbrewery.shop/product...ker-ipa-440ml/

Just beaten to it!

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Well sherlock will you be sending the evidence to cressy;)

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The evidence has been drunk, m'lady! :D

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Do you think anyone will realise we were at that party? ;)

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What . . . they had waiter service too :shocked:


:D

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:D

You were there too, then? I thought BoJo was asking where his bath was! It was a bit noisy, mind. :D

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It possibly depends on the age of those partying.Around here it’s mainly OAPs and they were all being very careful about meeting anyone or having parties at home. However I live by the Solent and the youngsters were meeting up on the beach in groups slightly larger than allowed. But as it was out in the open I suspect that transmission would have been less likely.

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:D:D Maybe Andrew was laid out on a table with the hors d'oeuvres displayed on him. Politicians like those extra touches apparently.

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BREAKING: Jack Doyle has resigned as director of communications at No 10. He's told friends he always planned to leave after two years and that his departure is not linked to that of Munira Mirza

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Will the last person to leave Downing Street turn out the lights please.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...tinues-at-pace

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I might send Boris my CV ( and a bottle). Sorted :)

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At least we know what the practical exam is - how many wine bottles can you fit in a carry-on suitcase? :)

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You said what happens in Leeds, stays in Leeds! :D

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Will the next Prime Minister make themselves heard, please?
https://www.ft.com/content/dffdd8b9-...0-ace4fe0cfa19

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What does a 'policy unit chief' actually do, and how much influence has she, and her dept, had on policy decisions that the Government have implemented and is now being flayed for?

She's stuck with him for 15 years of bumbling incompetence, and it looks to me like she's using the 'Savile' incident as an excuse to get out of town before she's tarred & feathered ;)

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She organises the parties!

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Who is going to organise all these leaving do's :shocked:

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They will be more like wakes than parties!

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Some of of our resident legal hotshots won't be too happy!

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Labour crime commissioner so no surprise there.

Brush that beer n pizza party under the carpet.

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I wasn't aware that a PCC had any responsibility for individual charging decisions.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

are you saying you don't know how things work in the real world.

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No, but you appear to be…

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Anyway, back on topic…

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...t-b981148.html

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I imagine a few GB News viewers will be conflicted knowing that the journalist they condemned as a left-wing woke snowflake is now advising their favourite PM!

He also worked on behalf of Huawei to lobby the British government.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/175661...-harri-huawei/

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Hard liberal Lefties are always conflicted, take offence at everything, not knowing common sense, given they see the corrupted EU as a good thing for Europe. (Which it never has been).

This is the typical snot nosed bullshit I’ve ever seen from you. You must do better Andrew. GBNews viewers, don’t see Boris as their favourite PM, host Mark Dolan was calling on Boris to quit last week in his monologue. Guests on most of debates they have called for him to go, so it ain’t no echo chamber, not like the lefty guardian/channel 4, Corbynista nut jobs outlets are.

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It's the biggest echo chamber out there, Mick, or Guto Harri would still be there! Show signs of dissent and you follow Harri out of the door!

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Have you tried 'Forces TV' Mick? A far superior TV channel. You'll love it, repeats of Blakes 7 , what more could you want ?. ;)

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I see Boris's new Director of Communications has declared that his boss 'isn't a complete Clown' :D
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...clown-26160641

Well work harder and he might make the Big Top yet... Its good to have a dream ;)

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You obviously don’t watch it.

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I wish you were right.

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Wasn't John Major's dad a clown or something circusy at least

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Sounds like Boris's lot will be all right, then. Just the team having a work break with some alcohol. :D

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OK I’ll bite … if it triggers you so bad, why *do* you watch it?

I viewed a few minutes of it very early on (while Andrew Neil was still on it) and even with his weighty presence it was obvious it wasn’t going to be the great alternative it had been painted as. I therefore … don’t watch it. :D

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16 times…

;)

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Not sure if it triggers me, it's more out of morbid curiosity. It currently seems little more than a whinge channel but it does at least highlight the effort needed to go into making quality news programming and how effortless Sky and others make it appear.

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BREAKING: Cabinet reshuffle happening today. Rishi possibly being sacked as chancellor.

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I can't see Sunak being sacked.

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Good

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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really Johnson knows he after his job i can see him being sacked

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It’s funny the number of basic errors GBN was making in many technical areas early on (I assume they finally fixed these) when almost anyone forced onto Zoom during the pandemic could have warned them about lighting and dodgy clashing backgrounds and any YouTuber could have taught them a thing or two about audio sync issues and how to avoid them.

I do get the fascination of the train wreck though. That’s why I’m permanently amused by the Labour front bench (and now the Tory one also).

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I didn’t appreciate frequency had anything to do with it, Hugh. If it was right once, it will be right again, surely? :D

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How so? He has achieved Brexit, he had to deal with an unexpected pandemic that nearly killed him and the bulk of the manifesto is still ‘to do’, delayed by Covid.

Clearly, he’s getting on with the health and social care issues now and starting off the levelling up agenda. To be fair, he’s broken his tax pledge, but I’m sure most right thinking people will acknowledge that Covid is responsible for that.

Which promises were you referring to that have been ‘broken’?

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So now we have a Ministry of BOGE, which has various entries at Urban Dictionary, though perhaps the most worrying is to fail to do something you previously promised you would. :erm: :D

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boge

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Hence me using the term, “possibly”, not definitive.

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It didn’t "nearly kill him" - he received "standard oxygen treatment", and wasn’t intubated; he was in hospital for a week, and the ICU for 3 days.

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Point of information on heat pumps: these are widely used in Nordic countries where winters routinely get a lot colder than here. They operate at a lower efficiency at low outdoor temperatures, but operate they do. The problem in the UK (and here I acknowledge I sound like a Polytechnic lecturer with a tarmac and superglue fetish) is lack of adequate home insulation, thanks to centuries of cheap heating fuel first from coal and then gas. We have been able to afford to be wasteful.

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So he misled Parliament on that too?

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Well, he thought he was a gonner, and he wasn’t the only one.

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That's the thing, if you'd been that ill, why would you dance with the devil and have all the social events? I'm sure most of us would agree that ending up in ICU even just as a precaution would be enough to make you overly cautious at the least!

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The man just lives for the moment and worries about the consequences later.

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No, he said he thought he might have been close to being a "gonner", which is not the same thing…

The medics have never talked about how serious he was, and the only viewpoint we have is his - the medics had contingency plans (because he’s the PM)

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-05-02/...ttled-covid-19

Not many people walk out of a hospital three days after "nearly dying"…)

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But did he? Isn’t that something the police are investigating? We haven’t had the results yet.

Of course, if you believe Dominic Cummings, what can I say? ;)

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Unless there's a very good Boris impersonator around he's the life and soul of parties according to all the pics!

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It did nearly kill him - Boris Johnson is clinically obese so he had a clinical risk associated with the Covid vulnerable group and more crucially, you don't get admitted in to an Intensive Care Unit for nothing. He had breathing difficulties to the point he required oxygen and round the clock intensive care.

They do not put "slightly" poorly people in ICU on the whim, going in there requires invasive medical procedures, they would also not have put him in there, if the benefit had not outweighed the risk of further infection to him and to others.

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Yes, Cummings ordered such a good impersonator who managed to fool both Carrie and security. Probably hid him in a large suitcase and told the coppers on the door that it was just the weekly trip to Oddbins! ;)

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Unless, of course, it’s preventative, as he(and other Government Ministers) are high-profile and high-impact if they do get very poorly, and it would be a proper risk prevention method to put him in there when he needed oxygen.

He only had a mask - he was not put on a ventilator or had invasive procedures; and as I said before, he walked out of the hospital three days later.

Being "high risk" is not the same as "nearly dying"…

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I'd take issue with the NHS if that's the case. Surely we should all get the same treatment based on clinical need. Or are some more equal than others in our wonderful new Little England?

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Yup, another day, another party!


I wonder if Nadhim Zahawi may be less reluctant to defend Johnson this time round. He previously told Sky News when questioned about another picture of the evening: "What do we see in that picture? We see a prime minister on a virtual quiz night for 10-15 minutes to thank his staff who had no choice but to come in every single day. "Sitting in his office with the two people who are closest working with him, no alcohol on the table, not drinking, on a Zoom call or a Teams call, a virtual call, respecting the lockdown rules."

https://news.sky.com/story/met-polic...erges-12537516

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You really are obsessed, Andrew.;)

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It's the headlines just now, switch Sky News on and join the party...so to speak. ;)

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So are they, with drinking at work and having parties...

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And breaking the law, whilst the plebs can't see dying relatives.

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I thought you would appear again. :zzz:

Well thats our house in trouble then, we had a bottle, crisps, tinsel & a hat. :rolleyes:

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You were allowed to socialise with the people in your own home.

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Isn't that where he is?

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Exactly! We'd have no need for prisons if everyone here was as forgiving of everyone else as they are of Johnson. He can do no wrong in some people's eyes! :)

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I think he might be the Second Coming. Not many liked Jesus at the time. ;)

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No, his home is a couple of floors up next door - he’s in an office.

If he was in his flat, the others wouldn’t have been allowed in, under the regs at the time.

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Or having work breaks, like Sir Keir was having when he was caught drinking beer with colleagues.

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Drinking alcohol was not banned during lockdown. Socialising outside of work was, though.

Boris will argue either that these were work events or breaks between work. If Starmer got away with saying he was having a work break when drinking that beer and the police accepted that, it’s looking good for BJ.

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Yes, we all have a glass of Prosecco during work breaks…

Anyway, Johnson said he followed all the rules and followed COVID guidance at all time - you now seem to be saying that he didn’t, but it’s OK, because Starmer didn’t either?

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From the picture I've seen, Boris is nowhere near the bottle . . . good story for the knockers to get their gums into though . . . seeing as the Russkie invasion has gone quiet

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The lengths which some will go to exonerate Starmer's useful idiot is a tad concerning.

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It's a witch hunt, it's all that Labour has, desperate Dan stuff.

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Anyone worked out what the funders were hoping to get in return?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...et-flat-refurb

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...nted-a-new-one

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Only if they lived there ;)

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Nope. I'm saying that the police are taking no action over Starmer taking alcohol refreshments in a break from work, so BJ is probably in the clear, depending on whether they find anything that is of real concern.

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Any one worked out what the Chinese Government wanted for funding Beijing Barry?

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I thought all this had been kicked into the long grass?

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You know how it works … just a friendly understanding that he’ll pick up the phone when they call.