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One thing that should help get Disney + to VM when the Sky deal expires is that O2 UK has exclusive mobile rights to Disney +. And VM UK and O2 should be merging next year.

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l like your positivity.:D

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Looks like something may be happening with Disney+:

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/vir...dia-TV360-apps

"
How do I use my apps on the Virgin Media TV 360 box?
Love your TV apps?

You’ll find a huge selection of built in apps such as YouTube, Netflix, BBC iPlayer, as well as lots of interactive games for the family. All of which are available to watch on demand for customers with Maxit TV.

Plenty more popular apps such as Amazon Prime and Disney Plus are also available, keeping the whole household happy."

I have the 360 and no DIsney Plus yet!!

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Nice looking box though but D+ is not going to be on it as far as i'm aware, as i said i will check in office Monday see if any info comes in.

For those who don't know i work for a company who finalises deals for various content providers .

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As opposed to the left wing Remoaner BBC

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:rolleyes:

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yawn. no politics talk here. we all have our views and opinions but lets try to make this.....about changes to virgin media tv so we all keep the peace and the mods are happy :D

how far in advance did we know amazon prime app was coming to virgin media? it would seem disney would want skyQ and virgin media to get the app on their boxes as a result of removing the channel?

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I would be a little surprised if Disney+ did not arrive on 1 October. VM were reported to be in discussions with them since just before it was launched on Sky. The removal of the Disney channels on both platforms would appear to be a good reason to set Virgin’s launch date as 1 October.

This could be quite a day if we get the Sky deal launched at the same time.

I’m still not convinced that the UKTV deal has been activated yet. Did anyone notice any difference?

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It is not going to launch on October the 1st on VM, by your logic D+ should also launch on Youview boxes on that date too which simply will not happen.
SKY have the tv provider exclusive rights i'll try and find out how long that is for tomorrow in work, and o2 have exclusive mobile provider rights.

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I don’t see how Youview relates to Virgin Media, to be honest.

I thought I had read that Sky did not get exclusive rights to Disney +. There is no reason, to my knowledge, why the app could not appear on Virgin boxes. I think I am right in saying that it was only the integration of Disney+ on Sky Q boxes that was exclusive.

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I think Sky's exclusive rights were for them to act as agents to sell with their tv service - nothing to do with which devices could carry it.

I went direct to Disney+ for my subscription as it was far cheaper at the time.

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I think we will get it long before then.

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Because youview is the platform BT,Plusnet, Talktalk use so by your logic as Disney channels are closing D+ must be coming to VM therefore Youview too right?

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Also easier to cancel via D+ direct no need to phone SKY, although tbf to SKY when i've phoned i've not had to wait too long in queues.

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I hope i can bring good news tomorrow fingers crossed something is on the system regarding D+

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It would be logical, but it ain’t necessarily so. VM are in separate negotiations.

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Having seen this subsequent post to mine in which Disney + was mentioned in the blurb for the TV 360 box, I agree.

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is the sky deal you mention in regards to the UHD channels? I'd imagine the UKTV deal is also UHD?

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The Sky deal relates to UHD content and an increased VOD library.

The UKTV deal was increased VOD only, apart from a channel change from memory, which I think has already been implemented.

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The app Hopster is new today, you have to sub to Kids channels to use it. I wonder when MTV app is coming? I've seen it mentioned by VM a few times lately.

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Broadcast: No more Top of the Pops as BBC Four set to make way for BBC Three

Media Web Site is reporting that BBC Three is set to return as a linear TV channel.

Reports say it will broadcast after 7pm using space of BBC Four.

Note: This story first appeared online on September 28th but Media Boy HQ did not see it until time of this post.

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Broadcast magazine reworded their article not long after it first appeared because of the inaccuracies about the way the Cbeebies/CBBC/BBC3/BBC4 space allocation on Freeview was worded.

Lots of other websites and social media posts pounced on the initial "oh no! BBC4 is doomed" angle before they amended it.

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No it'll be using the space cbbc uses as cbbc closes at 7pm then BBCTHREE will take over like how it used to be.

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CBBC now closes at 9pm. BBC Three would utilise the CBeebies slot as that closes at 7pm. BBC4 would move to the other slot. Hope this helps.

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i never really understood why bbc 3 was axed in the first place. i've always seen the content of BBC 2 and BBC 4 to be similar? Apologies if that comes across as ignorant! BBC 1= general entertainment BBC2= factual BBC 3= Youth oriented/experimental.

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BBC Three was axe to make way for £80m to move to BBC One to make new Drama shows.

I feel with the BBC looking for cuts all the time they need to do the following: (My own views)

-Axe BBC Radio 4 LW.
-All BBC local English Radio Channels cut down to just local news and Sports and rebrand as BBC Radio England.
-CBBC and CBeebies become one and broadcasts from 6am to midnight.
-BBC Red Button, BBC Three and BBC Four become an all day BBC Three Channel from 6am until about 3am.

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One of the very few things that the BBC's commercial rivals can't accuse the BBC of encroaching of their turf (whether justified or not) is regional radio.

All commercial stations are already ditching as much local content as they can get away with as part of OFCOM agreements, leaving only the BBC from the major broadcast companies to have local voices on air.

However even there the BBC are also already making cuts

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...nal-programmes

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£80m to my recollection was the entire BBC3 budget, they only saved about £50m closing the broadcast side. The saving wasn't all reinvested, and it mostly simply prevented cuts to other services.

I agree with what BenMcr said re: local radio.

I'm surprised you didn't mention Radio Scotland MW too, since you mentioned R4LW. Same reasoning, virtually a duplicate most of the time.

Part of the reason for the success of CBeebies, aside from the programme quality, is that parents feel comfortable plonking their kids in front of the screen and not having to worry about the content changing to something inappropriate. If they merged CBBC content in, they would have worry about it.

Also the demographic of CBBC tends to think of themselves as grown-up and has increasingly moved to watching adult entertainment programming, more E4 or BBC3 type material, over the years since we all moved from only having 4 channels. They'd be much more likely to watch normal adult entertainment after 7pm. That's presumably why they chose to have the kids channels end at 7pm and BBC3&4 start when they launched in the first place.

There's barely enough programming to fill BBC1&2 daytime, why would they want a 3rd general adult channel daytime schedule to fill?

And the virtually the whole point of the Red Button stream these days is to help with event programming that won't fit on a schedule, merging it would defeat the point of it. The Red Button broadcast stream will eventually disappear anyway as the Connected Internet Service becomes the normal.

In theory BBC3 SD could return 24/7 on Freeview as the space BBC Scotland SD channel uses on Freeview isn't used outside of Scotland. In practice it won't be considered as they can't have major regional provision differences for national services and need to be platform neutral.

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Back on topic. The new ITV HD subregions that are apparently testing on Satellite are likely to be enough to mean ITV HD can move to 103 on VM. Which means 113 will become available everywhere.

Presumably this will help with S4C, BBC Scotland (outside Scotland) and BBC Alba needing to be within the Top24 EPG places as required by OFCOM by January.

I found out last night BBC Alba is moving on Sky tomorrow and will then fulfill this requirement, so presumably VM will have to make changes to fulfill this fairly soon.

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Just announced.

The TV versions of the BBC News and Sport apps are closing "by the end of the year". The Lottery and Weather info is also being removed on Connected versions like VM use.

The BBC Blog post about it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthe...e-634f4be28480

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The bit at the end of the 2nd last paragraph of the post doesn't apply to VM as there is no Text service available as described.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 

After the Disney channels closed last night, most of the other kids channels are free to view today.

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Buy Disney's Mulan today in the Virgin store, only £19.99, yeah right Virgin, :td::td:

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That’s the price set by Disney across all platforms; it’s the same on Apple, Amazon, Google and Sky.

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For once l agree with you.

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Which is cheap!!

You could watch it on Disney+ where you have to subscribe for £5.99pm - and then still pay an extra £19.99 for this film.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 

If you subscribe to Disney+ at £5.99pm you will also have access to much more content too.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 

Yes - but my point was the film is not more expensive on VM.

If you have kids than D+ is good value for money.



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And on Disney+ itself.

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Disney. SKY and VM "why do people illegally download movies?"
hmm hmm.

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Because people want something for nothing. These productions aren’t made for free!

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So don't rip people off then simple £9.99 is a very fair price for a movie.

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Go tell Disney that then ;)

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/contact-us/

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I don’t have kids and I’ve got Disney+ myself. I find it great value for money. There are many adults who love Disney movies, you know! Me included.

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Would be even better if they added the Touchstone Pictures library.

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I did to no avail lol that grubby mouse.

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Tbf all banter aside there is nothing like that Disney magic adult or kids there is that magic for everyone.

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I would expect most of that library to likely end up on the ‘Star’ streaming platform they are intending to launch from 2021.

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No one is forcing you to subscribe - if nobody buys it then expect to see cut-price offerings at Christmas.

£19.99 for a film is way over the top.

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It's to be available to everyone with Disney plus from December

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A 7 week wait to save £20 is fair enough imo.

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"rational capitalists".

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Except that they are not all capitalists! :D

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VM may be getting SKY Atlantic but as a additional addon, talks are ready to start according to documentation i've seen today.

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Why bother now? When the channel launched 10 years ago it was exciting and different. Big hitting shows like Boardwalk Empire and Games of Thrones have come and gone. SKY have since spread some of the channels content over their new channels SKY Comedy and SKY Documentaries. What you're left with is a shadow of its former self. An additional ad on? SKY are taking the urine. Dung for the price of gold.

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From guesswork in the office SKY are looking to push Atlantic as uks HBOMAX, everything is in the proposal stage at the moment, in work we think WB will oppose it anyway and would look at the possibility to launch HBOMAX itself in UK in the future.
The other guess is Atlantic will arrive on VM but in one of the higher priced packages.
Once i find out more info i'll be sure to post what i can here ofcourse.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 

Surely Now TV is Sky's HBO MAX, being a streaming service?

With VM moving away from tiers and Sky's Entertainment HD channels almost all in the same one already I'd imagine that would be the obvious place, if it happens.

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Given that Sky have a deal for first run theatrical movies and HBO content, both of which would be the primary drivers of a platform it does make me doubt whether WarnerMedia could launch a platform here... the deal is fairly similar to the deals made in Canada and Australia (though the U.K. press notes were not specific about WB produced Max originals) and when it was announced a year ago, WarnerMedia did specifically say at the investors day they were leaning on existing partners specifying the Sky deal for “stability and predictability”. Anything in what you have seen about Sky offering Max Originals?

I think Virgin users have been starved of Atlantic long enough! Especially given that the HBO and Showtime is now distributed across the platform via multiple channel brands and not just brigaded to the one channel... I wonder if a treating it as a premium add on was the only concession of agreeing a carriage deal as opposed to offering Now TV like with BT where Sky control the stream.

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Spreading content across the channel brands has changed Atlantic’s USP for sure but that channel is increasingly being anchored by the Sky Original dramas and which I believe Sky have themselves said actually draw in more viewers than the majority of the HBO imports - I think it still has some cache as their flagship drama brand and having things like GOT on demand, Chernobyl and Gangs Of London as well as the next GOT Spin off still ensures it’s quite the proposition.

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Not a cat in hells chance of that happening.

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Hmmm. Before now would have laughed at the idea. But with so many add ons in this “bright streaming future” I think customers would be more likely to do it.

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Well tbh i'd rather go by documentation actually recieved than someone on a forum, no offence mate.

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:clap::clap:

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Could make for an 'egg on face' moment if it comes to nothing. In his defence you've only said may and there's been good reasons up to now that Sky have evidently decided to retain some content exclusively.

Everyone is entitled to take a view.

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To be fair my not a cat in hells chance comment isn't that Atlantic wont end up on Virgin at some point more I can't see it being an add on. I won't go missing I'll happily admit I was wrong if it were to happen.

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Ah yeah talk in the office is we can't see how it'd be a addon on it's own, same here if nothing comes of it i'll hold up my hands and move on lol.

As for NOWTV which a certain OB mentioned a while back vm have absolutely no interest in that being on their platform. As it stands SKY are looking more towards plusnet following BT's path which is likely seeing as BT own Plusnet.

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Not really as i already stated it is in proposal mode at the moment so basically a idea that's been put forward by SKY, ideas come and go there was a idea of Netflix launching a live channel which nothing came of it.

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If it's less than £3.99 I can drop Now TV.

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Once we get more solid info i'll be sure to post what i can on here.

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I expected as part of the deal with Sky last year that we would possibly get Sky Atlantic content via on demand - I wasn’t expecting to get the channel too!

Yes, I did mention Now TV as a possibility, but that would be a little clumsy really, given that all the channels except SA are already on the VM platform.

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You've been done, jiffers, if you're paying £3.99, for now tv, unless its more than the entertainment channel that you have?

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Many of these shows can now be offered on demand if this information is correct, which I have no reason to disbelieve. Now TV displays many Atlantic dramas, which is why I subscribe to the entertainment pack.

Virgin viewers will notice a big difference if this is added.

I agree there’s not a lot of new stuff on the live channel at present, although live TV is suffering from the impact of the COVID restrictions right now.

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Legend killer has reported that he has seen the documentation, so there will be no ‘egg on face’ if it didn’t come off. He is merely telling us what he has seen.

I know you don’t want to be proved wrong in the things you have said in the past, but at some point you are going to have to accept that change happens.

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I know you’re paying a fraction of this.

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The egg on face refers to the strong rebuttal to MM, not the opinion offered.

I’m not sure how Sky Atlantic coming to Virgin would “prove me wrong”. I don’t think you’ll find I’ve ever said it’ll never come to Virgin Media but I’ve noticed that since you’re struggling in the streaming debate and the corona one that your new modus operandi is to claim I’ve said something I actually didn’t. :D

I do however love the internal conflict in here:

The live channel isn’t good, obviously because that’s linear. :D

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Guess work in office only guess work if it does become UK'S version of HBOMAX we could be talking around £12p/m equal to HBOMAX $14.99 in USA, it's highly unlikely though.

We've sent the documentation up to the next level now so it's a case of wait and see by it going up to the next level suggests both parties are ready to start talks.
It goes in 4 levels level 1 - documentation is recieved department i work at,
level 2 - it progresses to the companies for review
level 3- talks begin between the relevent parties.
Level 4 - a deal is reached and it moves to progressing to launch etc.
If a deal isn't reached it goes into the reject stage.

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More likely £14.99pm - usually a £1 for $1 in these things

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Given that Sky Atlantic is a pure scripted drama brand and HBO Max is a broad portfolio/platform of kids, movies, scripted and unscripted (more akin to Now TV’s movies, entertainment and kids packs lumped together), is there anything you reveal that would make your office think Atlantic could become something like Max? I just think nowadays anyone would be hard pressed to charge a significant premium like £12-15 for a fairly narrow proposition...

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All guesswork at moment but the key text as you can understand i have to be careful what i post but one line that caught our eye was "to make SKY Atlantic available at a premium service to TV providers"
Us mere lemmings at level 1 think that Atlantic will simply be added onto VMs tv pack and providers such as Plusnet will follow BTs path of going down the NOWTV route.
We'll know more once it's gone through the minions in level 2.

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Not if it’s premium service, surely?

Thank you for sharing this, LK, don’t get yourself into trouble, though.

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It is not good at the moment due to the number of dramas being made having been suspended due to the COVID emergency.

I have acknowledged the impressive range of SA dramas on Now TV. Did you miss that?

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Considering ive been paying like 1.99 for now tv and they keep offering me extensions again and again and its been going on for like a year maybe they're finally seeing the light about trying to get viewer figures up....

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Stick with it mate, you won't get a better price for really decent TV

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£1.99! How on earth do you get it for such a paltry sum?

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I pay even less, this was the email they sent me when my current deal was due to end.

We wanted to remind you that your current offer will shortly be coming to an end. But as a thank you for choosing NOW TV, we’ve automatically extended your offer on your Entertainment Month Pass for the next 6 months, so you’ll pay just £1.60pm (instead of £9.99)

:p:

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So the key to getting a super-good deal is simply to cancel and wait for Now TV to come back with a renewal offer?

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Yeah until every man and his dog starts doing it and they stop it.:D

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The thing is mate, I didn't even threaten to cancel, they just sent that email to extend my deal.

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I only pay £2.99 for SKY Cinema via NOWTV, i have no need for entertainment yet as i'm getting SKYs signature pack for £15p/m.
Sports i get via VPN and USA services.

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I got this too but at £1.80, I feel robbed compared to your £1.60 :D:D:D

I got some Now TV vouchers with my Clubcard points so hasn't even cost me anything so far, just the money I give to Tesco anyway.

Mine is up next month, I wonder if I'll get the same again

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Wait till a week or so before it's up mate, I'm sure they will contact you with a similar offer.

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...and select the reason for cancelling as 'I can't afford it'.

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By the looks of things Boxnation (channel 546) has been added to the Premier sports pack on Virgin Media.

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It is a part of that pack on Sky - has been for some time.

Premier have now got the Impact Wrestling rights and some will be on BoxNation. There is a live event next weekend on PS1.

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Thought it'd be part of BTsport tbh as it is with BT and Plusnet.

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It’s now operated by Premier Sport but due to previous contracts remains part of BT Sport pack on sky and BT. As well as premier pack on Sky and online.

Yet hasn’t been added till now to Virgin as a part of the Premier Sports pack
But it is showing Gaelic football (on a boxing channel - you did read that right) so might be only temporary but communication isnt Virgin or Premiers strong point,

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I think Virgin has sign an new deal with Premier Sports. I think Premier 1st appeared on Vigin in October 2014ish. Can anyone who pays for Boxnation on it own tell me if they can now see Premier Sports Channels on your telly (from Channels 551 to 554)?

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The last deal may have been around when Freesports arrived, or soon after it switch to HD, there wasn't long between those as I recall.

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Is Boxnation on Virgin TV Go?

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ITV2, ITV3 & ITV4 rumoured to eventually be closing:

https://variety.com/2020/tv/global/i...on-1234809348/

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They seem quite confident on Britbox gaining traction based on Spitting Image

It has 7 more episodes to go this season and if folk are subscribing just for that they will leave in their droves come December as they don’t seem too quick at releasing originals.

One year in and one original.

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i could imagine them downsizing for sure. ITV2 doesnt do very good ratings compared to ITV3 so i can see them possibly merging. Especially as ITV2 had spin offs for shows which have been discontinued now. change the name of ITV4 to something else

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Does that include shutting down ITV HD(channel 113). It's suddenly disappeared, along with all the "Planned Recordings" for 113.:mad:
Temporary fault?

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Err. ITVHD has disappeared from my V6. Channel 113. Has that happened to anyone else?

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Yes happened here. Bit of a shock.

I was about to turn off the TV as well when I noticed. Now I've got to try and sleep.. :D

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Looks like planned changes.
Link
Channel 103 is still set up as SD. My TV says it's 576p.


That assumes we'd been given advance notice. If there had been a message in the EPG for channel 113, that might've helped.
Normally with channel number changes, there's no problem. It's handled automatically.
Seems odd that Anglia East will have 103 SD and 113 HD, but Anglia West will only have 103 HD. Can VM systems cope with that?


I should imagine that programmes recorded using 113, will no longer be available to play back. Now that is definitely going to cause complaints.

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The same happened when STV HD made the switch it was gone for about an hour IIRC

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In Anglia West region, ITV HD(113) local news was for Meridan area(South East), so I don't know how Anglia East and Anglia West are going to come into it.

An article for the Central ITV region, doesn't mention cable or Freeview, only Sky and Freesat. Additionally the article is only from last Wednesday. The Anglia region version is only from last Friday.

IIRC there has been a issue before about switching between SD and HD, and correct flagging of the channels and EPG.

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Channel 113 ITV HD is back.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 

There has been happenings with ITV HD and ITV+1 on the network over the last few weeks which suggests VM are preparing for something. I'm sure JJ20X on Forum Box will notice something more soon enough and post there about it.

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ITV2 and ITV3 couldn't appeal to more different demographics. They wouldn't risk sabotaging ITV3's ratings in my opinion. They used to show the sort of content found on ITVBe on ITV2 before ITVBe was launched, so reversing that would be the most obvious thing for ITV to do. ITVBe doesn't have as wide geographical signal coverage on Freeview, and since ITV own the multiplex it's on they'd make money reselling the vacated space to another channel.

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With VM, ITV HD and ITV+1 don't seem to be affected in any way, other than the HD channel has the correct regional news. It is only Sky and Freesat that have lost the SD versions of ITV and ITV+1.

Was the temporary loss of channel 113, because VM had to source ITV HD from the new channel sources?
I don't know whether people might have lost any recordings from 113, but the planned programmes did disappear.

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113 still showing on EPG in Oxfordshire.

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It came back with the regional news changes in the EPG.

Did planned programmes on ITV 113 disappear and then return?
The planned recordings did disappear, but I'd changed mine to ITV SD before 113 returned.
Found an ITV HD programme in the deleted recordings folder and it does play back.
It may well have been that nobody would've noticed anything, unless like me they manually selected channel 113 and found it missing.


Subtitles are missing from 103 and 113, but not 114(+1) and 853(Audio described). Until it's all sorted out, I'm going to have to change everything to using 114 or 853.