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The trouble is, some people might downgrade to a lower pack as Now TV Entertainment also provides some of the pay channels that VM also supply. If Amazon Prime arrives with the live channels included, then we will know that VM aren't too concerned about this and Sky Atlantic via the Now TV app could be a possibility. It would allow VM to say that SA was available on their platform and this would not cost them anything (in fact they are likely to receive a payment for adding the app). Sky would be happy as it would make things easier for their Now TV customers and help to drive up subscriptions. During the Sky Basics dispute, Sky wanted VM to allow them to sell their channels directly to VM customers, but VM were having none of it. Adding Now TV is a way of doing this and could benefit Sky at carriage renewal time; if their channels were ever removed again, they could simply encourage VM customers to get them back again by signing up to the VM Now TV app. |
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Media Boy HQ has found two unknown channels testing on CO68:
Channel A is broadcasting nothing http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...&sec=0&lang=en Channel B is broadcasting RealLives http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...&sec=0&lang=en Both appeared on Thursday Night. http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C068 Calling 'Old Boy';) ---------- Post added at 14:18 ---------- Previous post was at 13:14 ---------- New Sky information to be EXCLUSIVE reveal by Media Boy HQ after 4pm TODAY. |
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Action taking places on a sunday for once.... intriguing.
Now if someone can find out then amazon prime launches within the next 10 hours that'll be a super sunday of a day |
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4pm. Not long to wait.
Sky1+1 maybe? CNBC swaps to HD on VM? (I'm not trying to be funny, know someone who will want the latter, for golf highlights reasons) There are numerous things it could be, so many I won't speculate further, especially when the answer will be in 90 mins. |
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I did say "after 4pm".
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We will reveal today - just it maybe later than 4pm due to waiting on more information.
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Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Media Boy Sources reveal NEW Information about Sky/Comcast.
Media Boy HQ has been given new information on what may happen to Sky and Comcast on Virgin Media UK. Infomation was given by Media Boy Sources (And was right at time of posting): Channels branded that will not change: -Sky branded channels. -SYFY. May Change: -One Sky Sports Channel may replace by NBCSports. -Universal channel may become USA Network UK. Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media UK latest: Sky Atlantic not in the revised agreement proposed by SKY to Virgin Media. ©copyright 2019 Media Boy 2006 - 2019. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production. |
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To be taken with a large pinch of salt? The source can't be very strong if the information was may change. How accurate will they know what contract stands between VM and Sky if all the information they have is some channels are/are not being rebranded?
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This late in the day Sky may just come back with UHD and Atlantic on the table despite the fact they've known this negotiation was due for months, and to be honest those are the most valuable/most contentious elements of any proposed deal??? |
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I don't think the USA Network or the NBC Sports parts will happen. The latter because there is no point in introducing another brand when you you own the UK market leader in Pay Sports. And I've not seen the USA Network name mentioned in even the US news stuff I look at for quite some time, their shows don't get mentioned these days, let alone in the UK where I've not seen their name since the early days of Channel 5 on the end of shows they bought back then.
It costs money to introduce new brands and most media companies are consolidating around just a few brands these days. I just don't see it. |
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I've never really understood why sport rights are split up so much. Back in the days of eurosport it was the same sport channel in most of europe showing the same shows. Now i know we've moved back from there with sports wanting more money etc but it feels in this instance we've gone back in the last 30 years for uniting sports rights. Could NBC be trying to do this with a combined channel which shows the same coverage in both the UK and USA at the same time? Is it even possible? |
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NBC are also owned by Comcast, so yes, they're heavily in the UK sports market as it is. You're right though there's no need to bring more brands into the equation.
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I'm struggling to believe much of that , why would Comcast want another Sports brand when it already has Sky Sports.
And why rebrand Universal channel to USA Network not really getting that. |
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*"-One Sky Sports Channel may replace by NBCSports." |
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Just passing on information we was given today by an Media Boy Source.
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https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...of-tv-channels This agreement is a further step in Sky’s strategy to maximise distribution of key channel brands and to monetise its content investment further across all TV platforms. By adding Now TV to the heart of BT’s TV offering, Sky’s portfolio of TV entertainment brands will be available to all UK consumers through each major Pay-TV service, reaching new customers and expanding the appeal of our channels to advertisers. Sky's own website, that was. ---------- Post added at 21:20 ---------- Previous post was at 21:18 ---------- Quote:
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They didn't.
That's your interpretation of "major platforms", it's a press release and use of the term has no legal standing. If Sky want to be snide in their use of the term excluding Virgin Media from their definition then they absolutely can, and did. Some of Sky's portfolio is on Virgin, however it was entirely predictable that they didn't mean Sky Atlantic was coming to Virgin Media. If those terms had legal standing they'd have to remove that news release as misleading. If you were to email and ask for a correction they'd laugh you out of town. |
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A better argument would be that they didn't necessarily mean their complete portfolio, but it would be surprising that they have relented their exclusivity of SA on BT but not on Virgin Media. Yet another possibility is that Sky were prepared to make the channel available at a price VM were not prepared to pay. However, despite all of this, I am not sure I believe the information MB has been given, but we won't know anything for sure until there is an official announcement or it just suddenly appears. I still think it is likely that we will get Atlantic. |
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You can think Virgin is a major platform, I can agree, but that's utterly irrelevant to Sky's use of the term.
You read what you wanted to in their statement. Not what it actually said. |
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I'm not trying to spin them at all. You're interpreting it incorrectly to support what you think will happen.
I'm telling you there's enough leeway in the wording that it doesn't guarantee Sky Atlantic on Virgin. Not by a long shot. |
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Does anyone have a link to the Sky press release about Atlantic that is being discussed here please?
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I've warned against the Atlantic coming to Virgin interpretation since they published it. The obvious question is why wasn't it added back then? I don't buy the Game of Thrones argument, seven years in the number of folk subscribing on that basis will be miniscule. A three month Now TV pass would suffice, and for such a small number the revenue would be dwarfed by a wholesale deal to four million Virgin subscribers. ---------- Post added at 22:03 ---------- Previous post was at 22:02 ---------- Quote:
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Sky Media has reveal Christmas24 and True Christmas run from mid September until early January.
Media Boy HQ thinks True Christmas will start in Mid September but Movies 24 will start at an later date until early January 2020. Also The BBC has won the broadcasting rights to UEFA Women's Euro 2021. |
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https://www.barb.co.uk/tv-landscape-...y-tv-platform/ It is beyond ridiculous to suggest that BT is a major pay-tv platform but Virgin Media is not when VM comes second in that list. |
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Anyway, we will know soon enough. |
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If Sky want to throw the term around and exclude Virgin there’s nothing stopping them from doing so. It has no legal or protected status. |
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Thanks SonicMaster. :) |
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You cannot bind Sky to your definition of major platform. If Sky choose to be dismissive of Virgin in a press release they're entitled to do so. All that happens is they look petty and a handful of members of this forum get upset. Had they used the term in an advert the ASA could regulate its usage. However they didn't. |
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This is the Coming Soon to Virgin TV thread and some recent posts have nothing to do with the topic. So keep to topic please or open your own thread.
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Regarding the possible rebranding of Sky's channels by Comcast to NBC, i think this all depends on what they call their global streamer in the coming months.
My money is on it being called Sky, but Comcast also stated that they'd roll out NowTV globally, so that might be "the" global streamer too. If that does happen, then I would expect the Sky channels to take on the NBC/Universal branding. |
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Do we really expect the whole company to ditch recognised branding throughout the world to standardise it in a short space of time?
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It also depends on how quickly Comcast plan to turn Sky from a satellite tv company into a IPTV company and/or global streamer. |
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I've just come across this - Amazon Prime should be available on your V6 box from next Monday (22nd)
https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...e-on-virgin-tv |
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Is Amazon Prime a V6 only feature, or is it also available on the standard Tivo?
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Thanks, Den - I think...
I need to weigh-up any benefit of upgrading to V6 - losing all my Tivo recordings, versus gaining the Amazon Prime feature (which I can access via a Fire stick). |
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Sadly TV recordings cannot be transfered to a V6 as you say although Series Links , Thumb ratings and Auto record Wishlists can.
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Happy to be proven wrong in Prime, although it remains to be seen if they integrate it into their packages or not. Now I can watch Prime on my Smart TV, Chromecast, Fire Stick, PlayStation 4, iPad, Android phone or on my V6. Maybe I'm not one of these old folk that rely on TV companies to make choices on what apps I can have :confused: |
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I don't believe that Prime will be integrated into Virgin's packages just yet, but when there are more streaming services available, I think they will evetually do so. Sky have already integrated Netflix into their packages by offering it with Sky Box Sets at a discount. I appreciate that you can watch Prime in a variety of ways, but my point all along has been that once launched on Virgin, you will be able to bookmark all shows on your watch list in 'My Shows' on the Virgin menu. It is inconvenient and disjointed to have separate watch lists on each separate service. Much better and efficient to have them all in one place. I would not want anyone to make choices on what streaming apps I can access either. What I do want is for Sky, Virgin Media and BT to offer the full range of streaming services so that we can make our choices without having to get a multitude of sticks and boxes just to watch them. |
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We are back to pay TV operators should give streamers a leg up. It's almost as if he knows many of the business models will be fledgling.
I'm going to predict we will see more follow the Eleven Sportdroute than the Amazon/Netflix one. |
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When the linear channels finally depart our screens it will be the streamers that are left, so clearly this is the way to go. |
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I'm sure Disney can manage but it's a finite marketplace as Eleven discovered. You don't know that people want (and will pay for) six or seven subscriptions. |
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I think people will be willing to pay what they pay now, at the expense of linear pay TV. |
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Reminder: it was you that poured scorn on the likelihood of Amazon Prime coming to Virgin Media, and your protestations were conveyed with as much confidence as your attitude towards Sky Atlantic and Amazon carrying the Premier League. I don't buy it. I don't buy it at all, and you will be proved wrong. |
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You can not buy it all you like, that doesn't change the reality.
The Amazon on V6 thing doesn't change much to be honest. I gave an opinion on it and it went the other way. I don't have the strength of feeling you seem to think I do. |
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I would also like to know how having streaming only will be better than the current offering (linear tv with a few streaming options)? By your own admission streaming sports is not easy or viable at present (and that you don't watch sport), therefore linear channels will remain, if only for sport, in the forseeable future. |
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As far as sport is concerned, it is true that there are problems to be overcome, but we are getting there, and the latency problems will be resolved soon - the BBC has already worked out how. We will see just how close we are when Amazon stream the football in December. |
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You do know people can do all that right now in addition to timeshifting and live.
Both of those don't require internet connections if there is an internet outage in your area. Or if the internet is just crap where you are. Or you are content with ADSL2+. |
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We've done this one. Costs buttons to maintain a linear presence if you own the content anyway.
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Why bother when you can just upload the lot? |
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We found some HD Channels did move to an new steam last night.
Animal Planet HD More4 HD ZooMoo HD Sky Thriller HD Sky Action HD Sky Sports Football HD SONY MAX HD You will have to re-Add them to your Favourites. |
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Take Love Island for example. I’m going to guess it’s so far beneath you I’ll make a synopsis available for the forum. The “plebs” seem to enjoy watching fellow semi attractive plebs of limited intelligence romancing, occasionally folk get voted off, but they all aspire to turn up to local nightclubs in your local towns/villages for small appearance fees. Anyway, the mass interest in it results in people engaging with each other in real life the following morning to discuss it, at coffee machines, break out areas, on trains and in other public places. All in all it’s a bit of a menace really. My point being it doesn’t work being dumped online at a certain time as a series. Or even nightly - tens of thousands of people engage on Twitter in a way they couldn’t unless they all hit play at the exact same time. An EPG slot costs about 40 grand does it not? Considering you’re pushing Amazon into a £5bn TV deal with no plan to make a profit I think you can give me a pass on that one. |
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One year old this weekend:
July 21st - Virgin Media UK added new channels to network. July 22nd - Virgin Media UK drop UKTV Channels but their relaunch on August 11th. |
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