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The press announcement on 30 November has not been postponed, and the VM teams on the front line are not as informed as we are for much of the time. VM remain very tight lipped about the 30 November event, and until then, the public facing staff will not receive any further information. |
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Unless this latest update fixes the speed issue on a permanent basis, current Tivo customers should be given a V6 FOC. Or at least at instillation cost. |
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Well, the engineer has just left.
The Screen started with a TiVo welcome in various foreign languages, not sure if this is VM being ultra PC or if this shows that the box and/or software aren't exclusive to VM in the UK. He initially said that the system would not work because my TiVo needs to be near to my router. I then said that i'd read that Powerlines would be provided in case of this, which he had no knowledge about. I then said that I thought it would work on WiFi, like my Smart TV. He then admitted that he'd had no training on the V6 and it was the first time he'd installed one and that VM hadn't given him any training on it! We eventually got it to work on WiFi (but he did say that it would work better if I installed Powerlines). It then went through a 'TV speed test'. Don't know what that means, possibly the signal from the router, or a reminder that it shouldn't be running slow like my old box?? After he left, an on screen box covered part of the picture saying to call 150 as there was a problem with my account! I went back to the screen that shows any downloads taking place and it was still (slowly) downloading something. After waiting until it had finished, the message no longer appeared on the screen about my account, so I assume that it needed to know what package I was on to know which channels to grant access to. Now the EPG is greyed out (apart from the FTA channels) and the on-screen message has reappeared, so I'm going to call 150. Edit: And so another VM farce begins: 1) Gave all my details, password etc. First line faults can't help me because second line faults deal with all V6 problems. 2) Put on hold in a queue. Had to give all my details again. Second line faults say they cannot help me and will put me through to CS as it is they that need to "enter the codes and Mac address on the Q screen". 3) Put back in a queue. Had to give all my details a third time. CS say they cannot help me and put me back through to faults! 4) Put back in a queue. Gave my details for a fourth time and explained that my patience was wearing thin. Faults don't know the Mac code and ask me to look on the back of the TiVo to find it out. Luckily my carer had just arrived and looked, there wasn't a Mac code at the back, but there was one at the bottom. 5) Now being kept on hold for ages whilst they "talk with the technical team" to "try and get it all sorted out" as the V6 "doesn't appear on my account". I guess that this also means that I won't be able to transfer across my Series Links etc. Even with the limited functionality, it's working instantaneously when recording, channel surfing etc. After a 10 minute hold, got told that the engineer will call me within the hour as he will have to come back to let them know the Mac number (the Mac number that I had already just provided). I've taken time off work and all that has been achieved is the ability to quickly access a few FTA SD channels with no VOD services at all. I can feel another complaint coming on... |
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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The menus etc that I've had a play about with look exactly the same, but many won't work because it's not yet working properly. I did want to see if it could stream to a tablet like Sky Q. Do you know why they can't just input the Mac code that I gave to them (whatever that is!) to get it to work? It seems daft to get the engineer to come back out just for this. Maybe it's a security thing?? I thought Mac codes were something to do with changing broadband providers/the internet (and therefore the VOD service/IPTV channels/apps etc) and nothing to do with the linear channels. |
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Well, over an hour has passed and no engineer phone call or visit as promised. I'll ring them one more time. If it's not sorted to my satisfaction, i'll be looking for some answers and something by way of an apology. If not, i'll cancel (as per my legal advisor I informed them that I would not be entering into a new contract until I was fully happy with its performance, which VM have accepted). After my experience today, i'd urge others to do the same ;) |
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
It would be worrying if the box had launched but it hasn't. You made them give you it early so can't really complain if it doesn't go smoothly.
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They are designed to give you time to pull out without penalty if you feel the service isn't right for you. What something as an apology would you accept? Not sure they will give you anything considering you have a V6 box before launch, mate :-) |
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I'm not a new customer, so was told that a cooling off period didn't apply and that a new one year contract would be automatically activated, so we put this proviso into the contractual agreement. Update: Nobody called or rang me back, so I called them again. The story has now changed to "it's a national fault, some activations are working and others not". Because of this, the V6 thinks that I still have my old TiVo, so won't allow me access. A very pleasant technical manager then called me back to apologise. He said that they were trying again and that they will call tomorrow to double check if it's worked. |
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All being well it will soon be sorted and I can have a play. I'm happy to answer any questions or provide any information, but not if people believe that this is "hijacking the thread". Edit: Yay! It's now working as a type, I feel like a kid on Christmas morning :D ---------- Post added at 17:47 ---------- Previous post was at 17:45 ---------- Quote:
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If they did a proper trial maybe these issues would have been addressed #justsaying
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There is a pool of people out there (ie, here) who are willingly to test things. The problem is, if you want to keep something secret, how do you do that with customers? If it's employees, you can make them sign a NDA (non-disclosure agreement) but you can't do that with customers, or if you did, how would it be enforced? What has been very clear to me this time round is the lack of leaks surrounding this new box. I've gotten titbits of info here and there over the months, but its been as tight as I have ever known it and that is clearly what VM wanted. I understand that the testing by the employees finished about a month ago, so the box has at least been "out there" and tested by some. The only thing is, employees will never want to rock the boat too much, so I wonder how reliable employee testing of equipment/software really is. PS: Richard, glad its all worked out for you |
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
Past hardware has had issues but also had customer testing the v6 has had "in house only" to my knowledge.
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I'm sure Richard and any other lucky V6 customer who frequents this forum will be more than happy to answer questions.
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The technical manager called me back to check all was well (which it is). I asked him if it would allow me to stream like the Sky Q box. He said that, as the box is so new, this hasn't been activated yet. However, it will be in the future and that there "were lots more features in the pipeline" and that "it will be amazing what the box will be able to do once it's fully utilised". A NDA was never mentioned to myself, but he did say that thus far only 2,000 have gone to customers. I assume that the other 8,000 have gone to VM employees and the gadget websites/journalists etc. Unless the claim that the 10,000 earmarked to be distributed this year have already been given out was incorrect and there will be ~ 8,000 available until the end of the year. ---------- Post added at 20:41 ---------- Previous post was at 20:35 ---------- Quote:
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Richard, Can I ask what you mean by 'stream like the Sky Q box'?
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After I asked the question, he did say that when this is activated, "you'll be able to stream anywhere in the house". |
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Yes, with Sky Q you can stream recordings or live TV to up to 2 mini boxes and 2 tablets at the same time, with no impact on recordings.
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What is missing is an updated version of the Android TV Anywhere app with this function, I think. |
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5000 have gone to new customers, as of yesterday that is.
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My tablets are Android (not that the engineer who called me knew this) so I guess it won't work anyway. TV Anywhere certainly doesn't :( ---------- Post added at 23:06 ---------- Previous post was at 23:05 ---------- Quote:
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The app on the iPad/iPhone looks exactly like the interface on the main box. There are options to download a show to the main box or to the iPad/iPhone or to "watch online". For VOD (not recordings, which you can only access when at home, or if you download to your iPad/iPhone while at home), the options are exactly the same whether connected to your home network or to 3G/4G, so I suspect the stream is direct to the tablet/phone. |
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What are they going to do are the replacing the old TiVos or do you have to buy one or will there be discounts
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The commercial details for V6 haven't been announced yet.
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I've noticed that there are duplicate greyed out apps on the V6 eg the iPlayer, when clicked on an "App temporarily unavailable" message appears. Can someone please check if this is the same on the old box, if not, I wonder if these are some form of an app version of channel placeholders for future services. When the box is widely available, could we see more apps coming to TiVo?? Talking of the iPlayer, it's now almost instantaneous and is quicker than using my Smart TV as I used to do before. One thing about every digital TV service that i've ever used is that there is always a couple of seconds delay when changing channels. Apparently, this is because the boxes have to decode/decompress the signal. With the V6, it's like going back to the analogue days- it's instantaneous! Not sure how they've managed to do this, but it makes channel surfing much quicker and easier. In fact you now have to be careful not to miss a channel on the way! Loading apps is much quicker too, obviously it's not instantaneous as it has the additional task of connecting to the internet; it takes about the length of time that the old TiVo takes to change from one linear channel to another. What's Sky Q like in this respect? |
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
Handy link for all those who'd like to know a bit more :-)
http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/camp...-v6-about.html If you scroll to the tips link, it tells you all about recordings and streaming to other boxes http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/camp...soon-faqs.html The only issue I see, is if you have a V6 and a Tivo, for them to be able to "pair" to watch recordings across devices, you need to wire your old TiVo to the superhub via Ethernet or powerline :-( "With the V6 box you can start watching a show on TV downstairs, press pause, and pick up where you left off in another room, on another box. First you’ll need to connect both your V6 box and your other TiVo® box to your Virgin Media Hub. For your V6 box you can do this via Ethernet, WiFi or Powerline. For a TiVo® box you can do this using Ethernet or Powerline." |
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"Those looking for an alternative to Sky Q could be in for a treat. Virgin Media has mailed out invitations to its next media announcement, where the firm is expected to announce a next-generation 4K Ultra HD set-top box. The invitation resembles a cinema ticket – hinting at a possible announcement around movies for Virgin Media customers." http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/...ase-Date-Price |
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I just hope the UHD films are not all more expensive pay per view courtesy of Virgin Movies, but I expect they will be. Sky is unlikely to share its offering with us in the short term. |
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... probably the movies reference is about Amazon coming onto cable.
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It's one of the most basic features, yet cable has consistently failed to have fast channel change since going digital. I think Monday it will finally be my time to call Retentions about the price rises and other things....;) |
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Fingers crossed VM have agreed a deal with Sky for us...that's where the wishful thinking comes in lol |
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Hi guys,
I'm on V6, any questions please ask away. Hoping for Amazon Prime to come on the Apps section soon, 4K TV en route, should be here next week. |
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You might not need the app on the V6, it may already be on your new TV. |
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Like Stephen I've had very few issues but again like Stephen I have Sky Fibre and the Sky Q hub , many of the reported issues are from people with other broadband providers kit. In an ideal world Q would have been limited to Sky broadband and Sky Fibre customers for longer to allow longer testing with third party routers and get the Powerline functionality out. |
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.... of course, if we were to go down the conspiracy route, perhaps Sky may not be in too much of a rush to get things fixed with third party hardware, in the hope that customers pool all their services with Sky. If we were to go down the conspiracy route, that is....;)
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Received a letter from VM today. It formally apologises for the way that I was treated when I called to cancel and for the subsequent problem with activating my new box. They have knocked off a further £9 a month by way of an apology. Unfortunately, there is now a new problem. The system to transfer Series Links, Thumbs up and Wish lists is not working. I'm not sure if this is affecting everyone or just TiVo to V6 customers. There is no timescale to get this fixed, but if it's not done soon the settings will be automatically deleted. I have had to waste time and go to the inconvenience/trouble of setting up the ones that I can remember again and am missing episodes of the ones that I can't remember. If i'd have been told about this beforehand, i'd have made a record of them. |
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I have taken the precaution of listing all the recordings I have on my existing Tivo, and which episode of each I am up to, so that I will be able to put measures in place to re-record the stuff I haven't had an opportunity to watch yet, or alternatively to use the on demand services available to watch them. It is handy that there is a facility available to transfer series links and wish lists, but not the end of the world for me if that arrangement fails. I can just use the list I have drawn up, and ensure I pick up any new series from the TV magazine. I think we rely too much on the technology these days: always good to have a backup plan! |
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Are you able to confirm whether or not the V6 box can be operated by infrared remote control? It's been suggested (earlier in this thread) that it can and that the old Tivo remote will work with it, however it would be nice to have confirmation from someone who actually has the box. Might sound like an odd thing to ask, but I have a Harmony one "all in one" remote setup to operate all my AV gear, and I would hate to have to use a separate remote just for the V6. Cheers, Cliff |
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Yes, both the old and new TiVo remotes operate the V6.
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When the engineer installed my V6, he asked if I had my old remote control to hand. When I passed it to him thinking he'd want to take it to go with the old box, he just wanted to show me the size difference between the two and said that I could keep the old one as a spare. Was anyone else with a V6 told that they could keep their old remote control? I'm wondering if they're going to phase out the old remotes in favour of the new smaller one for all TiVo's and V6's?? Unless they do actually intend on eventually converting everyone over to a V6, so have no need for the remotes? I guess they have to take back the boxes themselves under the electrical recycling regulations. I tell you what, the six tuners are even more convenient than I thought they would be. It now means that there are hardly any clashes, so there is no need to reschedule recordings, which in turn means that there is extra capacity available to prevent future clashes. When there is a clash, because it has six tuners, 99% of the time the +1 channel can do it instead, meaning that there is no longer a need to search for repeat showings. It's now possible to get most programming in HD when this is available too. Also, when watching live TV, it hardly ever has to use the tuner you're using and i've been able to turn padding back on for programmes outside peak times. |
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
Was the same when I got my Sky Q. The main box comes with both an infra Red remote and a touch Blurtooth one. They leave you with both.
The wife prefers the Infra Red as it has real bottons for everything but I prefer the bluetooth as it as a touch pad and touch bar for play and pause/FF/RW features. That and I can use it with the doors to my media cupboard closed. Some people might like the older one better due to the button layout for TiVo. |
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Are they giving these to existing customers? My brothers TIVO is very slow, they are due a negotiation as have been out of contract for 2 years now so want to see if i can get their TIVOs changed offer as part of an offer to stay.
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
Not yet as it isn;t officially available till after the press event at the end of November.
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Lets hope that the iPlayer and other TV apps follow suit and include 4K content. Enjoy!;) |
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Just been on virgin tv anywhere website and gone to manage my devices I now have 2 devices appearing. However I only have one tivo box + a v+ HD. Could this mean i have a v6 awaiting dispatch (Have signed up for v6 pre register)?
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No, what you are seeing is the much reported phantom TiVo box. Sorry.
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Has everyone with a V6 only got 1TB like myself? Nothing has been mentioned about the 2TB that was rumoured to be coming. I would have preferred one of these, but didn't want to sound ungrateful as it was provided at no cost. Having only had the V6 for three days and having watched some recordings, i've used 25% of the HDD already! I guess this is the downside of having 6 tuners as it enables me to record more HD broadcasts and first transmissions as opposed to having to push them back. ---------- Post added at 15:40 ---------- Previous post was at 15:15 ---------- Quote:
Due to restricted bandwidth being available on DTT and the high cost of broadcasting 4K content, I can't see how else they can do it. http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/...D-video-launch |
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No wonder your last Tivo gave up the ghost! |
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When I get time I'm going to try to sift out any that i've already seen. |
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I decided to watch Lucky Man when I saw that series 2 was screening, and the series record + picked up series 1 as well from on demand! Pretty amazing. |
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Hopefully others will learn from my mistake. The V6 appears to have an external PSU, hopefully this will help to keep the box cool as I don't believe it has a fan. This might be one reason why the box is smaller too. |
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The existing Tivo has an external PSU and no fan. Can't comment on the new box.
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Something else useful that it seems to be doing; before when I came across a greyed out planned recording, I had to go into the screen for the entry and set it to record it.
Now, as soon as you go into the entry, it appears to assume that you either want to record it or delete it and lists it as to be recorded (it can't be deleted in greyed out mode). |
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Does the V6 have a optical audio out? I have a 4K telly but only a 1080p AVR so will need optical to have 5.1 as I don't want to buy a new 4K AVR any time soon.
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My 4K tv is connected via optical cable to my Blu-ray surround sound. The sound from my TIVO and PS4 all comes through directly without the need to swap any cables.
When I get the V6, I'll just do a straight swap with my current TiVo leaving the optical cable as it is. You won't need to connect the optical cable to your V6 at all. |
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I have to do it every time I watch 4K on netflix or amazon from the telly have to turn on ARC on and off if I leave it on it limits the AVR to just stereo audio. I can cope with this as currently it's only every friday for grand tour. |
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Is there an adapter for the "SCART out" included in the box?
It concerns me that the port isn't labelled on the picture so may be disabled: 1. Coax 2. Audio 3. HDMI 4. Ethernet 5. Digital Audio 6. Power 7. On/off switch https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/11/1.png My parents have an old TV but they would really benefit from the additional tuners and I think their V+ may be dying. |
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