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PBS is on the TV M+ Package right now.

http://www.tvchannellists.com/List_o...a_(UK)#Factual

Media Boy HQ has not seen any news about PBS moving to the M Package on Virgin Media UK.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Did forcestv ever launch on VM? I know it was supposed to be on VM from launch but as i don't have VM i can't confirm this.

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Yes, it's on channel 277

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Thanks mate right now VM is looking like a good option to return back too once my BT contract is up or i'm allowed out of it as not getting full service i'm paying for.
Future warning to anyone thinking the grass is greener with BT, it isn't and i have the grey hairs to prove it lol.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

BT has always been shocking and it probably always will be lol

Their broadband is rubbish, not much to their TV service and phone line rental is expensive....in my opinion

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My experience differs with broadband , my Infinity 2 has been great far more stable and gives me the same speed day and night however I agree BT's customer service is the worst I've experienced period.

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I never had their Infinity as I left them about 5 years ago, but the speed was barely 2meg, now with VM, im constantly near 152meg im paying for.

BT customer service wasn't helpful at all though

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Their broadband is great no complaints there, my problem is i've had a tv fault for last 3 months and they are happy charging me for it but i'm getting half the service i pay for lol, it's nothing major just their tv everywhere service that's the issue.
In BTs credit their CEO office so far has been superb they keep me updated but we're all scratching our heads as to what is causing the fault lol.
As i said their broadband infinity1 unlimited has been superb and the hh5 is one of the best routers i've used my tp link wdr3600 loves it and both work happily together lol. (my vpn is on my wdr3600).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

MB Blog: BBC Radio Foyle launches on Virgin Media UK.

BBC Radio Foyle has launch today on Virgin UK Channel 933.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...on-virgin.html

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I had a similar problem, couldn't watch the euro goals show on the lappie whilst watching a live game on tv - the problem was Chrome. Once I switched to Edge and later to Firefox, no problem. I had loads of problems with Chrome - couldn't log into the bank or national lottery, all smiles now.

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They've just cancelled my tv lol i think they're trying a total reset to see if tv everywhere will work then, bit of a pain as currently can't watch anything recorded from internet channels.
I think if this reset doesn't work it may be time to say "enough is enough forget the tv" and have a chat with my friend in USA about adding bein sports to their tv but i cover the $10p/m it'll cost.

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Apart from radio stations I (most likely) won't listen to, is there any news of other potential channel launches. Because it has been a rather quiet 2015 for new channels on VM this year, despite the explosive New Year's Day launches of Sky Sports News HQ HD and Sky News HD.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

1 is rumoured before end of year History HD but it is just a rumour at mo.
Unless MB knows any different.

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So no news about Universal in HD coming soon then? Shame, I'd quite like to watch Major Crimes in HD.

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Nothing on that yet i don't know when the current deal is up but hopefully you'll see something happen in 2016 regarding this.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Let's be honest here, it's all speculation and rumour, all it does is create some discussions about what may, or more to the point, what will not, be coming to Virgin, in this day and age there is so much information going around that you could make up anything you like, and the extremely gullible amongst us will bite like a fish jumping at a fly.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

VM have told me just for you they are going to put QVCHD on vm tv :p:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

All info we have about Channels is online right now.

As of October 16th No more channels are set to launch in 2015 as far as we know.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

it's neither lol .. it's just plain gossip that's all :)

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October List update - October 16th update.

Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin Media UK.

NOTE: I DO NOT WORK FOR VIRGIN MEDIA UK SO ALL THE INFORMATION ON THIS LIST IS STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE

Colours on my list are as followed:

Media Boy = New Info just added.
Media Boy = Virgin Media UK News and links.
Media Boy = Local TV news, other Media news/Things.

From late December all Virgin Media Ireland news will appear on this list.

=== Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV ===
=== Freeviews on Virgin Media UK ===
(Put start date here). (Put channel name here) is having an freeview to all TBC Customers on Virgin UK Channel TBC right now until (Put end date here.)

=== Soon ===
-BT Sport Extra 1 will soon launch on Virgin Media UK.

=== October ===
By 19th. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Superheroes as Sky Movies Greats today on Virgin UK Channel 404.
By 19th. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Superheroes HD as Sky Movies Greats HD today on Virgin UK Channel 434.
24th. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Greats as Sky Movies Harry Potter today on Virgin UK Channel 404.
24th. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Greats HD as Sky Movies Harry Potter HD today on Virgin UK Channel 434.

=== November ===
1st. Movies 24 will be rebrand as Christmas 24 today on Virgin UK Channel 419.
1st. Movies 24 + will be rebrand as Christmas 24 + today on Virgin UK Channel 420.
2nd. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Harry Potter as Sky Movies Greats today on Virgin UK Channel 404.
2nd. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Harry Potter HD as Sky Movies Greats HD today on Virgin UK Channel 434.

=== December ===
No News...

=== By 2016 ===
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc1 as Sky Movies Aliens on Virgin UK Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Sky Movies Aliens as Sky Movies tbc1 on Virgin UK Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc1 HD as Sky Movies Aliens HD on Virgin UK Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Aliens HD as Sky Movies tbc1 HD on Virgin UK Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc2 as Sky Movies Gangsters on Virgin UK Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Gangsters as Sky Movies tbc2 on Virgin UK Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc2 HD as Sky Movies Gangsters HD on Virgin UK Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Gangsters HD as Sky Movies tbc2 HD on Virgin UK Channel 4??.

=== January 2016 ===
-Christmas 24 will be rebrand as Movies 24 today on Virgin UK Channel 419.
-Christmas 24 + will be rebrand as Movies 24 + today on Virgin UK Channel 420.
-True Christmas 1 will be rebrand as True Movies 1 today on Virgin UK Channel 424.

=== February 2016 ===
No News...

=== March 2016 ===
-The BBC may close BBC Three on Virgin Media UK subject to final approved by the BBC Trust.
-The BBC may close BBC Three HD on Virgin Media UK subject to final approved by the BBC Trust.
-The BBC may add two extra hours per day to CBBC and CBBC HD on Virgin Media UK subject to final approved by the BBC Trust.

=== April 2016 ===
No News...

=== May 2016 ===
No News...

=== June 2016 ===
No News...

=== July 2016 ===
No News...

=== August 2016 ===
No News...

=== September 2016 ===
No News...

=== October 2016 ===
No News...

=== November 2016 ===
No News...

=== December 2016 ===
No News...

=== Local TV on Virgin Media ===
-All the following Local TV broadcasters may launch by 2017 on Virgin UK Channel 159:

-YourTV Manchester
-YourTV Blackpool & Preston
-That’s Basingstoke
-That’s Surrey
-That's Solent - CHANNEL TESTING ON VIRGIN MEDIA UK.
-That’s Reading
-That’s Salisbury
-That's Oxford

=== Unknown dates ===
-The BBC hope to launch English regional variants of its existing BBC One HD service as well as Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland editions of BBC Two HD - but still need to be approved by the BBC Trust.

=== Channels ONLY in Virgin Media Ireland areas ===
List last updated on October 6th 2015.

ONLY TV CHANNELS THAT ONLY BROADCAST IN THE UK ON OTHER NETWORKS WILL APPEAR ON THIS PART OF THE LIST.

ALSO THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CHANNELS IS CURRENTLY BROADCASTING ON VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND BUT NOT ON VIRGIN MEDIA UK:

Documentaries:
-History HD
-CI HD

Lifestyle:
-Fashion TV

Music:
-MTV Classic

Kids:
-Disney Channel HD

Specialist:
-EWTN

Radio:
-UCB Ireland

Channels only in Virgin Media Ireland areas.

FOR LATEST NEWS ON VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND SEE: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...nd-2015-a.html

©copyright 2015 Media Boy 2006 - 2015. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

==== Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters ===
Full list now at: http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/p...adcasters.html

This part of list has now moved to my blog - follow link.

=== What is Media Boy on about??? ===
Here is what I mean when I post the following on Cable Forum:

Virgin Sources - means just that.
'Do Not Post' order - means an Virgin insider has given me some info on things that set to happen but has told me not to reveal it right now.

=== Media Boy Extra info: ===
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Follow Virgin Media UK on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia
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See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

=== Ask Media Boy ===
Last updated October 6th 2015.

Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM?
A: Media Boy HQ gets all info from Virgin Media viewers, some Virgin Media workers (I called them Virgin Sources) and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site).

Q: WHY HAVE YOU ADDED 'ONLY IN VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND AREAS' WHEN THIS THREAD IS FOR VIRGIN MEDIA UK?
A: Virgin Media Ireland is now part of Virgin Media and are both owned by Liberty Global.

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''DISNEY CHANNEL HD'' FOR?
A: Disney Channel HD is only broadcasting in Virgin Media Ireland areas right now.

==== See you later ===
List last updated on October 16th 2015.

Next update: TBC.

A) If Virgin Media UK are set to launch more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) in Virgin Media UK areas.
B) If Virgin Media UK are set to move more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) about in Virgin Media UK areas.
C) If Virgin Media UK are set to close or repackage more then TWO channels (TV or Radio) in Virgin Media UK areas.

©copyright 2015 Media Boy 2006 - 2015. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

We've almost certainly reached peak linear TV in the UK now. There is no content left for which there is a viable audience that does not already have a home on an existing channel or on-demand service. There might be occasional upsets if a big player decides to shake things up when rights are up for grabs (like BT entering the sports market) and there will continue to be HD launches when Virgin and the channel owners consider it financially viable but what else could possibly launch that anyone would really care about today?

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There's more to Virgin TV than just linear channels.

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Imo VM really need to buck up their idea in the on demand side of things, there are also a couple of channels which VM should really have as everyone else has them including freeview aka SPIKE and trutv however both of these are available for free online and have a catch up service now.
If VM get competetive again in the on demand market they could be a very attractive option.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

I guess my point was that traditionally this thread has been mostly about new channel launches and we're now at a time where there won't be so many of those. New things on Virgin's VoD - whether on the current or some future whizzy platform - don't have quite the same excitement or discussability as the big channel launches of old.

That's perhaps a problem for this forum as its slant has always been more towards technology than programmes. There are already a lot less messages than there used to be.

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I agree friend. The fact as well as they don't have trutv or spike both on freeview is astonishingly bad

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It isn't just missing freeview channels, there are deals to be done for HD simulcasts, Freeview have 4seven HD and CH4+1 HD, given as a lot of channels probably pipe direct into VM it wouldn't be such a big exercise, ITV+1 HD is crying out to be launched...

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John Malone controls both companies so ironically this "rumour" has a ring of plausibility about it! :) (QVC is part of Liberty Interactive.)

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Oddly freeview has qvchd +1 but not qvchd lol.

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A channel 4 contact said about a year ago that 4seven HD and Channel 4+1 HD are mainly there to promote the Freeview service and use up capacity that would otherwise be wasted. It is hoped to extend these channels to other platforms in the medium term.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Not sure about that, theone, many of the channels we don't get are either not worth a light or are 'here today, gone tomorrow'.

http://www.a516digital.com/ (see the vu tv item).

We need to get out of the mindset that we must have every single channel available, no matter how much dross is pumped out.

Sky Atlantic, AMC and ITV Encore are the only additional channels worth having, IMHO.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Tbh amc is waste of time at the moment mate already it's starting to show repeats of stuff it's already shown.

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Two of the best current AMC shows are available via Amazon Prime, who have UK first run rights (Halt and Catch Fire and Turn; both having been renewed for a third season). The pretty much only other one, Rectify (which won't be everyone's cup of tea), is available on Netflix Canada. The rest seem to be re-runs of old shows. VM would probably be wasting their money if they paid BT for the channel.

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You're not wrong, Old Boy! I just wish that Virgin would milk the remaining channels from broadcasters VM already have deals with and scoop up the remaining Freeview channels; that should make us all satisfied.

Personally, I don't give a toss as to what channels they are; it's the choice I want more than anything.

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I kind of agree with the above, but there are ppl on here who slate Atlantic because it's on Sky and imo they obviously have no idea what a good show or series is, most of them would probably prefer QVC, ( oops sorry the one..:D)

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Haha :D you should see the US QVC :p: Atlantic is ok but trust me on AMC at the moment you really aren't missing much same with ITV Encore imo.
I get AMC via BT TV but i rarely watch it, Sky atlantic and itv encore i get via nowtv, sky atlantic is the best of the 3 i think.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

SA still most overrated channel ever and don't no why people still go on about it as it aint coming to VM or anyone else sky wont let anyone have it at all sooner people relise that the better

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Rubbish, that's just your opinion, i bet you love Jeremy Kyle!!...:D

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would not watch that garbage if you paid me

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Always the pessimist l see Dave,;)

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That's because your obviously old school and look at the channels daily schedule rather than the content it offers over the course of a year.

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Since I picked up a NOW TV box last year I have caught up (via box sets) and watched all the SA content I couldn't watch on VM

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4 seven HD & CH4+1 HD were launched as Freeview exclusives, mainly to try & push take up of Freeview HD equipment, which is required kit for receiving the MUX 7 & soon to be launched MUX 8 channels on Freeview.

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Funny as it just got offered to talktalk.






i kid you it hasn't really :p:

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Well, you say that, Dave, but since getting access to SA stuff via Now TV and my Roku stick, I have been gorging on the programmes from that channel which I have been missing. They include Fortitude, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, True Detective and more besides and I can assure you that these are excellent programmes.

Although we all have different viewing habits, there can be no denying that there are good quality dramas on there.

As for whether or not SA will ever come to VM, I would say that the only way that is now likely to happen is if Now TV appears on the Tivo box. This overcomes the problem Virgin has with the cost of providing the channel and gives its customers the option for them to pay to receive it.

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ITV Encore is only showing repeated material for the most part at the moment, although a new series of The Americans is currently airing.

Next year, we should see original dramas introduced to that channel and I think we should reserve judgement until that time.

When that happens, the exclusivity period with Sky should be ending.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Ifs , buts and maybes.

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I think it'll be the same with AMC overtime it will grow and improve as a channel and possibly arrive on other platforms too.

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Content is the future, having experienced Kodi, which is almost certainly illegal but shows the model which consumers want, everything available when we want it. The suppliers need to take note and come up with a solution which moves away from linear channels and restrictive practices and seeks a way of making a profit while giving us want we want.

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Yes, I think that, too. BT must be losing out hand over fist for this channel for a very small audience.

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Unless they've changed their minds on this, it is also Liberty Global's philosophy.

Let's hope they get a move on before another company steals the idea!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Kodi itself is not illegal it is infact a legiment media player, some of the addons are illegal though.
However a EU court recently ruled it is legal to stream copyrighted content however it is illegal to download or upload it.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Hence the reason Kodi is available on the Google store, as you say the addons are less so, I pay for Virgin XL + Sport (Go Toon!) and Sky Movies. Someone such as Sky or Virgin needs to supply everything at a monthly charge or become totally on demand with a charge per program. I'm not stupid enough to believe that they wouldn't overprice this but if they don't take action soon the ship may have sailed.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

I cut the cord completely i have a USA tv login though, i find that with netflix and my smart dns/vpn gives me all the tv i need.
I do have BT TV but that was thrown in as a sweetner by BT.
I pay about £45p/m all in including my bt infinity1

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Yes, I agree. I've said on several occasions that VM need to provide as many streaming services as possible - a combination of subscription and pay per view services, which would bolster their TV offer. I am convinced that this would be truly popular and would stop most of the gripes about lack of popular channels.

Sadly, time is slipping away, and soon there will be new services available elsewhere which will eclipse Virgin's TV packages.

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additional choice generally costs money, if i'm never going to watch it then I don't want it. personally i'd prefer all channel to be priced and then I only select those that I want.

Two side effects, I see less channels and its easier to channel hop and secondly I don't have to support channels that only produce dross.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

This.......:tu:

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Sony are already introducing this into their Vue tv service it's US only but they plan to launch in UK but don't know when yet.

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We have seen rumours that TruTV is asking too much for two channels.

We feel that Virgin Media UK are doing things the Telewest way.

-Look to us that Virgin Media UK are paying Sony two times per month (One for True channels and Tiny Pop and an other one for Sony TV UK).
-Wait until the broadcaster deal is up.
-Tell broadcast "Heres £X per month" for channel Z.

This post is just Media Boy HQ views.

We have been told something will happen on TiVo by next years Summer Olympics.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Woopeeeeee.:hyper:

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Is it nearly 4 years since VM added the structure for all those extra HD channels?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

No it's VM asking too much for Trutv to be on their platform, the same with SPIKE and yourtv.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

If you like boxing or MMA Spike is a great channel. Saturday fight night almost each and every week. The shows aren't always live but definitely worth a watch

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

never happen OB mate sky own now tv and VM has all main sky channels
except SA would be much easier for sky to let VM have SA linear channel but that wont happen they don't want anyone at all to have it

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

A possible sign that AMC is on it's way to cable.

Apparently, it's being transmitted on the Eutelsat satellite at 10 degrees east and is encrypted with B.I.S.S. under the label 'MGM ME'.

By inserting keys, it has been possible to circumvent the encryption and identify the channel being shown.

This satellite is used for professional transmissions, such as to cable operators, as opposed to Direct To Home (DTH) use like Astra 28° East.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

So Sky would be getting money from VM to carry its channels, and VM subscribers pay over again to subscribe directly to Now TV!

What's not to like from Sky's point of view?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

That's for SKY mate i think.
AMC is already on the SKY platform but only for BTsport customers.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

It's also been suggested that it's used by the former UPC (now Virgin Media) part of Southern Island for their cable service.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

as said VM already got all main sky channels except SA why would they get them again with now tv if VM ever did get SA which they wont it be the linear channel not now tv

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Didn't know that.
However it could be MGM middle East which i believe was rebranded to AMC a few months back.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Please explain how this would work for VM in a business sense , I'm genuinely interested.

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It would be their USP. I have no doubt that people would think they were getting a pretty good deal from Virgin if they offered this. I remember being wowed by the streaming services on my Smart TV a few months ago when I bought it, and then even more so with my Roku.

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Well, Dave, I and many others have had to purchase Roku sticks or use their gaming consoles to pick up Now TV and they are prepared, as I am, to pay for it.

VM would protect their position by ensuring that only those subscribing to the XL pack would be able to get Now TV streaming services on their Tivos.

This has the win-win effect of those wanting Sky Atlantic being able to do so without leaving Virgin and the rest of their subscribers who don't want to pay more for SA not having to pay for it.

It's not ideal in terms of cost for the likes of me, but it suits my purposes, as it would for many others, until such time as Sky become more reasonable or are forced by regulation to share their acquired content with other platforms.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

A USP that would probably see them losing money with people downgrading their pay tv package , it's a pipe dream at best.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

No, MM, there would be no loss to Virgin! As I said, VM could make it a stipulation that certain streaming services could only be accessed by subscribers to the XL pack (and if they are actually making money from Sky Movies and Sky Sports, to those too).

Considering that other providers are able to make Now TV available for a one off charge, following which subscribers can pay Now TV the monthly subscription, I really don't see why you think that Virgin would be at a financial disadvantage. On the contrary, they would be likely to gain more subscribers by offering this.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

So a customer has to spend £30+ just to add a streaming service doesn't that kind of defeat the whole object. Sorry but none of what your saying makes sense.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

But on the other side, people who want Nowtv but don't want 200 XL tv channels can slready do that too by ditching VM and getting a streaming solution... Many many people like the convienience of one box, one bill.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

And your point is ?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

I see Virgin media are advertising how you don't pay extra for HD. True but they don't seem to mention you need to be in the top tier to get those channels...

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Spoke to a few sources today regarding nowtv on tivo, they have all said "it will never happen."
If it does happen i'll eat my boots.

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Makes me laugh how they claim HD isn't extra it's plainly obvious to everyone barr VM that the HD cost is hidden in the cost of XL.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

They throw in a few additional channels from TV L to TV XL, but it is mainly the additional decent HD channels that is the difference.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

If that is the case, it's a shame.

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I' m kind of struggling with the reason for the confusion here.

If I am a good customer of VM's with the XL pack and I also want Sky Atlantic, VM could help me by providing the ability to get Now TV on my box.

As it happens, I've had to buy a Roku stick to do just that.

It is true there is a lot of duplication on Now TV, but that isn't the point. The point is that it would allow you to stick with Virgin while also accessing Sky Atlantic.

Of course if you don't want to pay for duplicated services in this way, you could just move over to Sky, but that option is already available.

I am reasonably content to pay the extra €6.99 to get Sky Atlantic while remaining with Virgin.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

I think old boy, that is the bit we are all struggling with and one very few will find consensus with

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

It's simple to understand adding Now TV to Virgin Tivo benefits neither Sky or VM , VM already sells the bulk of Sky's content both linear and catch up in its packages why would it want it's customers having a direct customer relationship with Now TV (Sky).

Sky also makes money through wholesale deals for it's channels on VM , Now TV is a product aimed generally at Freeview homes for those users who don't want long term contracts.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

You'd be better off buying the 3 month Entertainment passes for £14.99 (often available for less) and use it with your Roku stick.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

Thanks for that tip, PB.

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It benefits VM because it lessens the desire by some to go over to Sky and it benefits Sky, who get additional income.

Additionally, if VM could boast a whole range of streaming services via its TIVO box, that would act as VM's unique selling point.

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I'm by no means the only VM customer who subscribes to Now TV!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

I bet it is the remaining +1's or shopping and news channels. Nothing exciting to see here, folks; move along!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

It will be additional streams for the Olympics.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 

To be fair, there's also Music-On-Demand being inclusive rather than pay-per-use.

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Whoever suggested that should have checked to see if AMC is available in Ireland. It's not on any platform there.

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Thanks- it can't be for that then. theone2k10 did say earlier that he thinks it's actually a feed for Sky.

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Or a feed for Virgin to pipe on the back end to BT servers.

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I'm not so sure about that. Plenty of VM customers will have purchased ad Now TV box or have access to Now TV but will not necessarily be paying the subs every month, rather dipping in and out. I'm more than happy to pay the monthly subscription for the duration of the series I want to watch.

That said I doubt that Now TV will make it's way to Tivo. Having it on Tivo is unlikely to be a reason for customer retention. In fact I'd bet that more people would ditch VM for Now TV/Freeview combo that would be convinced to stay.

As for Now TV themselves (ok Sky) there aren't really any disadvantages other than having to share a platform with Netflix but they wouldd have a development and support cost to consider. Would it be worth it to them? Only they will know but my guess is that until it becomes a worthwhile investment Now TV will not be coming to TiVo.

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That option exists already.

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It would be worth it to Sky if the subscriptions they received outweighed the set up and maintenance costs, which of course they would. If it is worth it to have Now TV on the Roku, why not on the Tivo?

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How can you state with such confidence that subscriptions would outweigh development and support costs? I can't say they won't but that's a hell of an assertion, especially as Now TV isn't on Tivo which would suggest it isn't worth it. Keep in mind, for it to be worthwhile the new subscriptions gained from users who have a TiVO but don't subscribe anyway would need to cover those costs.

As for Roku, Sky are a major investor in Roku, stands to reason they'd want their on demand service on a technology they invest in.

Also while the option to ditch VM and use an alternative does exist for your belief that a TiVO Now TV app would be a deal clincher for many to be true you'd have to have large swathes of TiVo users NOT subscribing to Now TV as it isn't on TiVO. Instead people are already subscribing to Now TV and VM, it's unlikely those people will be convinced enough by a TiVO Now TV app when making supplier decisions. What I'm saying is that in the grand sceme of things a Now TV app on TiVo just won't enough of an incentive for people...owing to the fact that there are options already and people are using them already.

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Because 1. Sky part own ROKU.
2. ROKU is more widely available than VM TIVO.

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Sky already gets subscription money on the VM platform through its wholesale deal.

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Thanks for rumour.

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James Murdoch reveals Fox planning new bid for full control of Sky.

21st Century Fox chief executive claims not having complete control of pan-European pay-TV broadcaster is ‘not an end state that is natural for us’.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...control-of-sky

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Given that a Now TV box costs fifteen quid and will be way faster than any implementation on Tivo, what is the point of adding it to Tivo?

And I know there is the 'want it all on one box' scenario, but if that is an issue, people could always replace their DVD/BLU-RAY player with an LG model that comes with Now TV, Netflix and Amazon Prime installed. The only caveat to that is that Amazon Prime is limited to stereo, which will only be an issue to those with surround equipment that decodes Dolby Digital+.

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Do you mean that it could simply be VM being paid to help distribute the signal for BT for the existing platforms (as opposed to being any indication that they intend to add AMC to the VM platform)?

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Could be the feed to Russia:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...placing-787225

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Back in March you posted a rumour about Boxnation HD coming (can't remember if you meant coming to Sky, VM or both.)

Boxnation HD is now testing on Astra with colour bars. For anyone wanting to have a play, the parameters are:

12.032H 27500 2/3

Might be some free boxing!

Interesting find, thanks. I'll find out what the language is and if it has subtitles :)

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Yes, when the deal was done for BT Sport did it not include VM using their infrastructure to pipe large volumes of data for BT? This could also include video signal to local data centers.

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It's coming to virgin very soon as far as i'm aware should be next month.