Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35569736)

Was £1 a month at one point on ntl:, could never see that happening again though

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35569750)

PremPlus was PPV, £7 a match AFAIR.

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 35569649)

VM you have removed all of the 3D content from on demand. I for one don't believe 3D is on the decline as most manufacturers are now slanting towards passive 3D. I'm soon to purchase a new TV and 3D is a priority. So can you reinstate some of the content please.

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35569713)

Bring back premplus

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35569761)

Yesterday,I recieved a marketing email from Virgin that was telling me that I am now getting 'more for no more'. So I contacted Virgin to let them know that they forgot to mention the removal of all the 3D content and that I am now getting less.

The email also went on to mention that I am getting 3,500 hours of On Demand content,but they also forgot to mention that they have taken away all the ITV content.

More for no more?

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569945)

Why do you think it will cost what you have quoted because as of yet there is no proof of that MB.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35569950)

Just going on info base on What BT reveal today.

I THINK we will need to pay the same as Sky Viewers on this deal.

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35569750)

PremPlus was PPV, £7 a match AFAIR.

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35569750)

PremPlus was PPV, £7 a match AFAIR.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35569934)

When BT Sport do launch on Virgin Media it will cost £12 to £15 per month.

-£12 per month for the SD Channels only.
-£15 per month with the HD Channels added.

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35569975)

I see BT are to offer their Premier League football channel free to its broadband subscribers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22462525

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35570001)

I would imagine a fairly low take up on VM if those do turn out to be the prices MB, especially with how the voting is going on the 'Will you pay extra' thread.

ESPN is currently only £8 including HD if you don't have XL TV so I would have thought a reasonable price would be around £10 including HD. You also never know if VM may negotiate a cheap deal with BT for those with XL TV considering the fact that we'll be losing ESPN.

Watch this space I guess :shrug:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35569975)

I see BT are to offer their Premier League football channel free to its broadband subscribers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22462525

Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35570005)

Gd to hear, but technically you have to have a TV package with them aswell.

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Very true mate. VM have to do some sort of deal with BT to keep customers happy. Otherwise, a price decrease (doubt it), or customers will be leaving.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35570025)

I doubt prices wil decrease, maybe the money will be used for extra channels, or even a TV price freeze for a year?

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35570038)

£15 a month... :upyours: i just hope that my favourite footy club man up when the tv deal is up for renewal again in a few years time and claim the rights to their home league matches, or they may never fully compete with Barcelona and Real Madrid (who already do this by the way thats why they generate more revenue).

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35570053)

Media Boy is correct - it will be £12.00 per month according to http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...ntentID=870ing to

IF you go over to BT BB its FREE, this it total blackmail from bt to get customers.

Originally Posted by nicko (Post 35570066)

You will get BT sport free on Sky platform as well if you take BTs broadband, this could create big problems for Virgin.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35570069)

I agree , especially with the amount of Half Price codes knocking about at the moment.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35570071)

So much speculation! You will need to wait until Virgin do the deal! It is likely that we will have to wait for an announcement because VM are negotiating the best possible price.

My guess is that Virgin will take the amount currently calculated for the ESPN deal and just charge the difference between that and what BT are charging. I'm not sure that Virgin have the resources to make the channels completely free.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35570080)

you are ONLY getting TWO BT sports channels, the other other one is ESPN which we already have free.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35570080)

If what everyone is saying that BT will want to recoup all there money they have paid, it needs all platforms to recover the money.

With Sky the top in broadcaster, then followed by by VM, then you have BT that does not have enough subs etc. It cannot rely on other broadcasters there isn't any.

I think that VM will do a deal BUT, it will be costly - l wont pay more than a fiver extra, you are ONLY getting TWO BT sports channels, the other other one is ESPN which we already have free.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35570069)

I agree , especially with the amount of Half Price codes knocking about at the moment.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35570074)

SKY are going to get even more aggressive with their 50% off codes in the next few months. My SKY insider, yes I have an insider, confirmed all staff just received 10 codes each earlier this week to give to family and friends. Plenty more will be made available to the general public via the usual money saving websites in the coming months.

Put it this way, the codes will be very accessible to anyone who wants to save a small fortune on pay TV over the next 12 months.

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I'm not convinced that BT really want to do a deal.

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/54521...gin-talk-talk/

"BT Retail CEO Gavin Patterson said the firm was still open to doing wholesale deals for its forthcoming sports channels with Virgin Media and Talk Talk, but stressed its strategy wasn’t dependent on it.

Speaking at a BT Sport launch event in London this morning, Patterson said that talks were ongoing with Virgin and would “hopefully continue” in the coming weeks, but claimed it was difficult for the cable TV rival to do a “value proposition” until BT was able to announce details of its sport offering.

“We’ve had similar discussions with Talk Talk as we have with Virgin. Philosophically we’re not against, wholesale, we’d be open to it, it’s really about value – what our perception of the value of it is, and what their perception of the value is, and there’s a gap at the moment,” said Patterson.

Asked whether he could imagine a point where BT would simply walk away from wholesale discussions he added: “Our strategy is not dependent on wholesale. It’s not completely within our control – it’s whether or not we can find the right valuation between us and others. We couldn’t rely on it in that respect, so we’ve built a strategy, we’ve built a business plan that doesn’t necessarily depend on us wholesaling this.”

This sounds very much like the negotiations between Virgin and SKY for SKY Atlantic. That channel launched over 2 years ago and still no sign of it on Virgin.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35570120)

Gavin Patterson knows how Cable TV works after all he did work for Telewest before he went to BT.

I use to email him to ask him things on Telewest - Way before 'Media Boy' was born.

Originally Posted by colin1234 (Post 35570111)

Again l think some of you are overplaying the type of impact it will have on Virgin and they will have planned for these moments.

they may well have planned for it,but they need to make it known what they intend to offer in case thier best laid plans dont bear fruit,because i for one do not intend to pay any extra for bt sport and if there is nothing being added to VIP then the lose of ESPN will degrade VIP to a point where it is no longer viable

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35570153)

Rumour: Virgin can't do deal with BT until July?

Info from Virgin Media Forum tonight:



And an Virgin Viewer has confirmed to me that:



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Biz Asia: Zee Cafe to get rebranded in June?

Asian Media Web Site Biz Asia is tonight reporting that just days after launching on Virgin Media Zee Café will be getting rebrand as Zee Classic in June.

Zee Café was launch on May 1st on Virgin Channel 811.

http://www.media247.co.uk/bizasia/ze...zee-cafe-in-uk

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35570187)

Meltdown

Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35570273)

Say VM put the price of XL up by £10, but it now came with Sky Atlantic, including HD and BT Sports - who would be happy to pay that? I'm not suggesting that they will, just curious, as this would certainly tickle some people's fancies.. :D

Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35570273)

Say VM put the price of XL up by £10, but it now came with Sky Atlantic, including HD and BT Sports - who would be happy to pay that? I'm not suggesting that they will, just curious, as this would certainly tickle some people's fancies.. :D

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35570277)

Thats a good shout actually, would have a lot of people tempted imo.

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35570284)

I suggest that the majority of TV XL customers would be completely up in arms because they don't care a toss for sports.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35570277)

Thats a good shout actually, would have a lot of people tempted imo.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35570287)

Source?

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35570295)

Yes l think there would be quite a lot of interest Max.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35570300)

You sports fans have been free loading off 'non sports fan' XL customers for long enough, by having a £10 premium subscription channel (ESPN) included free of charge.

Suggesting that XL should go up by £10 to give you more free sport is taking the 'P'.

I know Atlantic was also mentioned but if or when VM do get it, it should be included in the current XL price as it is not a Sky Premium channel.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35570300)

You sports fans have been free loading off 'non sports fan' XL customers for long enough, by having a £10 premium subscription channel (ESPN) included free of charge.

Suggesting that XL should go up by £10 to give you more free sport is taking the 'P'.

I know Atlantic was also mentioned but if or when VM do get it, it should be included in the current XL price as it is not a Sky Premium channel.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35570307)

You go on about ESPN, well if Virgin want to offer that free to its VIP customers then surely that's up to them,!

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35570316)

Or to put it another way, we sport fans have been enticed to pay for a higher tier of tv than we might otherwise have done so by the inclusion of live sport in hd. The result being more money made by Virgin and better benefits for all customers. So, in conclusion, you're welcome!

Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35570273)

Say VM put the price of XL up by £10, but it now came with Sky Atlantic, including HD and BT Sports - who would be happy to pay that? I'm not suggesting that they will, just curious, as this would certainly tickle some people's fancies.. :D

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35570323)

Rubbish, it was a suggestion that a poster made

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35570287)

Source?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35570071)

Personally, I'm not a sports fan and so I don't want them pumping any of my money into BT Sports.

Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35570373)

Interesting. The other week I was simply arguing that as a non TiVo user I shouldn't be asked to pay for the development of a TiVo Netflix app. You and a few others rounded on me and said that everyone should pay for the app because 'we all subsidise each others services', regardless of if we're interested in it, or not.

I'll leave you to dig yourself out of that one... :erm:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35570384)

"I got the same response from both BT and VM. They may have to embargo any new deals until the takeover is complete."

I said this when the takeover was first announced and a few so called experts rubished me....
:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35570373)

Interesting. The other week I was simply arguing that as a non TiVo user I shouldn't be asked to pay for the development of a TiVo Netflix app. You and a few others rounded on me and said that everyone should pay for the app because 'we all subsidise each others services', regardless of if we're interested in it, or not.

I'll leave you to dig yourself out of that one... :erm:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35570323)

Rubbish, it was a suggestion that a poster made, and i commented that it may entice some people to consider this, personally i wouldn't pay anymore than i am at present as i think we are all paying over the odds for what we get, and to suggest that sports fans have been getting subsidised is ridiculous!

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35570407)

Sky Sports was the main reason that i took out a subscription with Telewest and now Virgin, and imo is probably the main reason that most of Virgin/Sky customers subscribe to their services, of course i may be wrong in my assumption, but it would be interesting if we could see the figures to show what % of their customers have the sports channels as part of their package.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35570392)

Personally, I think VM missed the boat on Netflix and Lovefilm, as they are both on so many other devices, and it is debateable as to whether they would bring in any extra customers if they were added to Tivo.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35570407)

Sky Sports was the main reason that i took out a subscription with Telewest and now Virgin, and imo is probably the main reason that most of Virgin/Sky customers subscribe to their services, of course i may be wrong in my assumption, but it would be interesting if we could see the figures to show what % of their customers have the sports channels as part of their package.

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35570424)

I'm a sports fan and will obviously miss ESPN from my XL TV pack. It would be nice to get a straight replacement and have BT Sport included but I very much doubt that will happen.

Sky and Virgin could however play a clever game here if they wanted to squeeze the opposition. Sky know Virgin are here for the long haul and could allow Virgin to have Sky Atlantic and pop it in the XL TV package with the costs covered by the savings from the loss of ESPN. Sky could also give Virgin access to the other Sky Sports channels in HD within the Sky Premium HD channels. This would then make both Sky and Virgin much more attractive and reduce churn from both to BT. Whilst it would reduce some of the exclusivity of Sky, it would increase their advertising revenue and also make BT a far less attractive option against Sky and Virgin. You only have to think back to what Sky did to ITV Digital to see how they like to crush the opposition!

BT will do a deal with Virgin as they are going to have to make it available as widely as possible in order to recoup some of the money they paid for the footy rights. Virgin could then offer it as a premium channel and then at least those who wish to subscribe to it would be able to, albeit for an additional cost.

Obviously this is just my opinion but I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this pan out over the coming couple of months.

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35570421)

Here's a (wacky) thought:

Who would it be easier for VM to do a wholesale deal with?

BT Sports? Or Netflix?

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35570392)

The difference is that adding useful apps such as Netflix and Lovefilm could possibly attract new customers to VM.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35570414)

Only a guess but l would say between 500,000 and 700,000.

Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35570445)

Eh? What interest do I have in whether new customers are attracted to VM or not??? I'm not a shareholder, I'm a customer.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35570472)

What l reckon will happen is that BT Sports will have no choice but to reduce its price, as no one will want it at £12.00 per month.

Sky could always open up a new channel to compete with BT, BUT Sky can blow BT out of the water, they are ten times better than BT. And with the price so high, l wont be going in for it. the price that Sky charge on VM is reasonable for the channels it supplies. ESPN wont last long as it will not suppl football.

I have no objections to paying £5.00 - but forget another SEVEN, no way. and dont forget two years ago didn't Sky freeze there prices due to the financial pressures on everyone, and yet BT want hard pressures on day to day life expect people to pay a high price for THREE channels.

Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35570273)

Say VM put the price of XL up by £10, but it now came with Sky Atlantic, including HD and BT Sports - who would be happy to pay that? I'm not suggesting that they will, just curious, as this would certainly tickle some people's fancies.. :D

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35570472)

What l reckon will happen is that BT Sports will have no choice but to reduce its price, as no one will want it at £12.00 per month.

Sky could always open up a new channel to compete with BT, BUT Sky can blow BT out of the water, they are ten times better than BT. And with the price so high, l wont be going in for it. the price that Sky charge on VM is reasonable for the channels it supplies. ESPN wont last long as it will not suppl football.

I have no objections to paying £5.00 - but forget another SEVEN, no way. and dont forget two years ago didn't Sky freeze there prices due to the financial pressures on everyone, and yet BT want hard pressures on day to day life expect people to pay a high price for THREE channels.

Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35570373)

Interesting. The other week I was simply arguing that as a non TiVo user I shouldn't be asked to pay for the development of a TiVo Netflix app. You and a few others rounded on me and said that everyone should pay for the app because 'we all subsidise each others services', regardless of if we're interested in it, or not.

I'll leave you to dig yourself out of that one... :erm:

Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35570662)

Which New American TV Shows You Think That Will Get Picked Up In The United Kingdom?

Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35570662)

The American Broadcast Networks have Announced There American TV Pilots That Have Gone Straight To Series For 2013-2014 Season From ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS and The CW are:

The 100 (CW)
About a Boy (NBC)
Almost Human (Fox)
Back in the Game (ABC)
Believe (NBC)
Betrayal (ABC)
Blacklist (NBC)
Brooklyn Nine-Nine (Fox)
Chicago PD (NBC)
Crazy Ones (CBS)
Crisis (NBC)
Dads (Fox)
Enlisted (Fox)
The Family Guide (NBC)
Gang Related (Fox)
The Goldbergs (ABC)
Hostages (CBS)
Intelligence (CBS)
Ironside (NBC)
Killer Women (ABC)
Lucky 7 (ABC)
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (ABC)
The Michael J. Fox Show (NBC)
The Millers (CBS)
Mind Games (ABC)
Mixology (ABC)
Mom (CBS)
Night Shift (NBC)
Once Upon a Time in Wonderland (ABC)
The Originals (CW)
Rake (Fox)
Reign (CW)
Resurrection (ABC)
Sean Saves the World (NBC)
Sleepy Hollow (Fox)
Star-Crossed (CW)
Super Fun Night (ABC)
Surviving Jack (Fox)
The Tomorrow People (CW)
Trophy Wife (ABC)
Undateable (NBC)
Us & Them (Fox)
We Are Men (CBS)
Welcome to the Family (NBC)

Trailers Will Be Revealed Next Week.

Which New American TV Shows You Think That Will Get Picked Up In The United Kingdom?

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35570686)

No idea, but great post there.

I was just reviewing the shows myself on various websites, but your list is easier to scan through!

Here's hoping the cable networks come up with something interesting too, because lets face it, they have the more "interesting" stuff, ie Breaking Bad, sadly now gone and shows such as Game Of Thrones.

Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35570662)

The American Broadcast Networks have Announced There American TV Pilots That Have Gone Straight To Series For 2013-2014 Season From ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS and The CW are:

The 100 (CW)
About a Boy (NBC)
Almost Human (Fox)
Back in the Game (ABC)
Believe (NBC)
Betrayal (ABC)
Blacklist (NBC)
Brooklyn Nine-Nine (Fox)
Chicago PD (NBC)
Crazy Ones (CBS)
Crisis (NBC)
Dads (Fox)
Enlisted (Fox)
The Family Guide (NBC)
Gang Related (Fox)
The Goldbergs (ABC)
Hostages (CBS)
Intelligence (CBS)
Ironside (NBC)
Killer Women (ABC)
Lucky 7 (ABC)
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (ABC)
The Michael J. Fox Show (NBC)
The Millers (CBS)
Mind Games (ABC)
Mixology (ABC)
Mom (CBS)
Night Shift (NBC)
Once Upon a Time in Wonderland (ABC)
The Originals (CW)
Rake (Fox)
Reign (CW)
Resurrection (ABC)
Sean Saves the World (NBC)
Sleepy Hollow (Fox)
Star-Crossed (CW)
Super Fun Night (ABC)
Surviving Jack (Fox)
The Tomorrow People (CW)
Trophy Wife (ABC)
Undateable (NBC)
Us & Them (Fox)
We Are Men (CBS)
Welcome to the Family (NBC)

Trailers Will Be Revealed Next Week.

Which New American TV Shows You Think That Will Get Picked Up In The United Kingdom?

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35570762)

NHK World HD has launched on Channel 625 (XL only).

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2013/...-virgin-media/

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35570765)

Yes! We've all known that for a fortnight; it launched 1st May.

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35570773)

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35570765)

Yes! We've all known that for a fortnight; it launched 1st May.

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I don't know what to say! Abysmal performance from my boys this afternoon! Well done, Wigan!

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35571198)

Lord Sugar thinks the Chosen One will swerve to Man City....

Originally Posted by the_pidgeon (Post 35571295)

The Michael J Fox show has a shaky future.


Sorry :)

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35571445)

In a 'phone call last night, it was mentioned in passing that a "couple of minor channels" should be added this week.

Perhaps it's the two radio channels that are on former Telewest areas only?? RTE is one, isn't the other the World Radio Network??

From the way they were talked about & played down, I assumed that they were shopping channels.

I can't check my box as I'm currently not at home.

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35571444)

Not available here ex ntl:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35571447)

A) Got updated today from insiders and as of 12.40pm no new channels are set to launch as far as my insiders knows.

B) Only Two channels are not in all areas of Virgin Media right now and you are on the ball - RTE Radio and WRN Radio (Old Telewest areas only).

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Thanks for update Ben B.