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Alan Fry 10-11-2011 12:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35328229)
Well.... Someone I know think his Dad is.
Rupert Murodch is like Vito Corleone

Lachlan Murdoch is like Sonny Corleone

James Murdoch is like Michael Corleone

Hugh 10-11-2011 12:55
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Not looking good for Lachlan, then....

Alan Fry 10-11-2011 12:56
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35328240)
Not looking good for Lachlan, then....
Its not looking good for any of them

Hugh 10-11-2011 13:05
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It was a "Godfather" reference......

Maggy 10-11-2011 18:52
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15685350

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In the hearing, Mr Murdoch said he had not been shown a copy of the "For Neville" email - assumed to refer to former NoW chief reporter Neville Thurlbeck, which contained transcripts of voicemail messages revealing that Gordon Taylor's phone had been hacked - at a June 2008 meeting with legal manager Tom Crone.
At that meeting he agreed to authorise an increase in the out-of-court offer to Mr Taylor.
He said he was given "sufficient information to authorise the increase of the settlement offer" but added: "The nature of the so-called 'For Neville' email... any wider spread or evidence or suspicion of wider spread of wrongdoing - none of these things were mentioned to me."
However, in a statement released just hours after the hearing, Mr Crone said it was "regrettable", but he could "perfectly understand" why James Murdoch felt the need to discredit him and former editor Colin Myler.
"The simple truth is that he was told by us in 2008 about the damning email and what it meant in terms of wider News of the World involvement.
"It seems he now accepts he was told of the email, of the fact that it contained transcripts of voicemail interceptions and that those interceptions were authorised by the News of the World.
"Perhaps Mr Murdoch could explain who he thought was doing the authorising at the News of the World?
"At best, his evidence on this matter was disingenuous."
So who is telling porkies?

I watched part of this today but I was so disgusted that my TV was in serious danger of damage and him indoors took the remote away..

devilincarnate 13-11-2011 17:49
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It seems like it could go even further now?

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Police investigating phone-hacking at the News of the World have recovered a series of ‘bombshell’ emails which they believe takes the inquiry to ‘a new level’.
The emails were among tens of thousands held by the newspaper at a data storage facility in India.
Police are believed to want to question News International chief James Murdoch and former Sun and News of the World editor Rebekah Brooks about their contents.
Discussions have taken place with the Crown Prosecution Service about whether Mr Murdoch should be arrested and interviewed under caution.
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Mr Murdoch confirmed he had not been detained for questioning by police, but informed sources say that will change in the coming weeks. One source told the Mail: ‘It is possible the most shocking revelations in the phone-hacking scandal are yet to come.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ils-found.html

Sirius 13-11-2011 17:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35328148)
the rate this is going, the sun will shut down and sky and fox will lose their broadcasting lisences

will this be the end of news corp, or at least then of of the murdoch control of news corp

will news corp be sold to one of its rivals (time warner maybe?)
One can only hope

denphone 14-11-2011 21:15
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...al-staff-named

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The full scale of phone hacking at News International, Britain's largest and most powerful newspaper group, finally began to emerge on Monday when the Leveson inquiry into press standards heard that 28 of the company's staff are named in notes seized from a private investigator who specialised in the practice.
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The suggestion that the identities of more than two dozen NI staff were scribbled in the margins of Mulcaire's notes is the clearest indication yet that journalists at the company engaged in the practice systematically.
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Jay read out a list of damning new statistics that illustrate the scale of what he called the "thriving cottage industry" Mulcaire was running on behalf of his client. He revealed that Mulcaire received a total of 2,266 requests from News International journalists in the period covered by his paperwork, 2,142 of which were made by four employees. They have not been named to avoid jeopardising the police inquiry. The most prolific of them made 1,453 of those requests.
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Mulcaire's 11,000 pages of notes mentioned 5,795 names, he confirmed, who could be potential phone-hacking victims. Scotland Yard also gave evidence to the inquiry, admitting in its opening statement that it had grown too close to the press.

Alan Fry 15-11-2011 09:19
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Heads will roll... :D

denphone 15-11-2011 15:46
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35330334)
Heads will roll... :D
How many is the sixty four dollar question.

Maggy 15-11-2011 19:07
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http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/o...m-consultation

Consultation on measuring media plurality

Please consider sending a message via 38 Degrees to Ofcom about this issue..

devilincarnate 15-11-2011 19:10
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35330683)
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/o...m-consultation

Consultation on measuring media plurality

Please consider sending a message via 38 Degrees to Ofcom about this issue..
Done:D

denphone 15-11-2011 19:12
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l for one will support this and therefore send a message.

Dave42 15-11-2011 20:18
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35330683)
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/o...m-consultation

Consultation on measuring media plurality

Please consider sending a message via 38 Degrees to Ofcom about this issue..
just sent mine :)

Maggy 22-11-2011 13:01
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I am becoming increasingly irritated with the coverage of the Leveson Inquiry.Both Sky and the BBC keep cutting the actual coverage to discuss and 'explain' what is being said and constant recapping instead of just letting it run and allowing the viewer to hear what is said.:rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 13:01 ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 ----------

I've given up and I'm following the proceedings on the BBC site.

Maggy 22-11-2011 15:19
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/...00/8167512.stm

denphone 23-11-2011 11:15
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-senator-bribe

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Australian police are investigating a former senator's allegations that an executive from Rupert Murdoch's News Limited offered him favourable newspaper coverage and "a special relationship" in return for voting against government legislation.
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The newspapers reported that an unnamed executive of News Ltd asked O'Chee during a lunch on 13 June 1998 to vote against his conservative government's legislation on the creation of digital TV in Australia. The news group stood to profit from the legislation failing.

Maggy 23-11-2011 14:17
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The McCanns are giving are giving evidence.

chris9991 23-11-2011 15:05
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James Murdoch gives up (apparently)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/23/james_murdoch/

Maggy 23-11-2011 17:07
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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35334073)
James Murdoch gives up (apparently)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/23/james_murdoch/
So he resigned on the 29th of September? Why the secrecy?

chris9991 23-11-2011 18:18
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That's the document date - the effective date (on the document) is the 19th September. My feeling is that they are looking to either close or sell off their newspaper division. Newspaper golden age is behind it and I think it is only the Sun that is actually profitable. They might take as much money as possible now, and then it may make taking over the rest of BSkyB easier

Maggy 23-11-2011 20:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35334203)
That's the document date - the effective date (on the document) is the 19th September. My feeling is that they are looking to either close or sell off their newspaper division. Newspaper golden age is behind it and I think it is only the Sun that is actually profitable. They might take as much money as possible now, and then it may make taking over the rest of BSkyB easier
It won't..there is going to be some long hard looks at them if they apply again and it may be decided that in view of what happened at NOTW they are not fit to be in charge of Bskyb.I think with the Leveson Inquiry the whole industry, papers and broadcasters are going to get their wings clipped.Once that happens I think our government may grow a pair and not allow themselves to be bullied into allowing the takeover.

chris9991 23-11-2011 20:48
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If the Murdochs can distance themselves enough form the scandal, the BSkyB could I think be resurrected. They are pally with the PM and others of the Government. When James Murdoch was being quizzed the other week, it felt like there was an emphasis on it being others at fault. Make it seem like the Murdochs were innocent and they can get away with it.

Maggy 23-11-2011 21:36
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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35334295)
If the Murdochs can distance themselves enough form the scandal, the BSkyB could I think be resurrected. They are pally with the PM and others of the Government. When James Murdoch was being quizzed the other week, it felt like there was an emphasis on it being others at fault. Make it seem like the Murdochs were innocent and they can get away with it.
Oh I think the Leveson Inquiry will put a stop to the pals act.I've been watching it and it's damning.The Murdochs have been presiding over a very ill run industry and it is going to make life very hard for them in that mud will stick.

chris9991 23-11-2011 22:09
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I quite agree that what went on at News International is quite damning but there seems to be a lack of mud that directly stick to the Murdochs. I imagine they knew more than they've been saying they knew but there appears to be a lack of prima facie evidence to prove it

Maggy 23-11-2011 22:41
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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35334327)
I quite agree that what went on at News International is quite damning but there seems to be a lack of mud that directly stick to the Murdochs. I imagine they knew more than they've been saying they knew but there appears to be a lack of prima facie evidence to prove it
They can still be accused of not being fit to own more of BSkyb because they showed insufficient control of the running of their papers.

You can be as sceptical as you like but I'm certain the hold that the Murdochs held over the Government is at an end and that the industry will be brought to heel after any court cases and when the Leveson Inquiry reaches a conclusion about what should be done to regulate the media industry.I suspect self regulation is out of the question.

Alan Fry 24-11-2011 09:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35334073)
James Murdoch gives up (apparently)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/23/james_murdoch/
He is still Chairman of British Sky Broadcasting plc and News Corporation (Europe and Asia)

Maggy 29-11-2011 09:36
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15932368

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The former Northern Ireland Secretary, Peter Hain, is understood to have been warned by police that his computer may have been hacked.
According to the Guardian newspaper, it is thought that any hacking may have been carried out by private detectives working for News International.
Computers belonging to other senior Northern Ireland civil servants may also have been compromised.
A spokesman for Mr Hain said the matter is a "matter of national security".
Mr Hain was Secretary of State for Northern Ireland from 2005 to 2007, was involved in peace negotiations and as a result would have had access to sensitive security data.
Not surprised after yesterday's revelations in the Leveson Inquiry yesterday.

Maggy 29-11-2011 16:23
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Listening to Paul McMullen at the Leveson Inquiry and trying not to vomit. What a truly unpleasant excuse for a human he is..

However the finger has been pointed by him.

Quote:
Editors Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks knew about phone hacking, a former News of the World journalist tells the Leveson Inquiry.

Damien 29-11-2011 16:31
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35337206)
Listening to Paul McMullen at the Leveson Inquiry and trying not to vomit. What a truly unpleasant excuse for a human he is..
His guy is brilliant. I am pretty sure he is being deliberately antagonistic to help forge a media career as an bad guy.

A few choice moments:

Quote:
I felt slightly proud that I had written something that created a riot and got a paediatrician beaten up.
When asked to explain his comments he said he meant them as a sort of joke.

Later on:

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In 21 years of invading people's privacy I've never actually come across anyone who's been doing any good. Privacy is the space bad people need to do bad things in.

Privacy is evil; it brings out the worst qualities in people.

Privacy is for paedos; fundamentally nobody else needs it.

Alan Fry 29-11-2011 16:36
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BskyB shareholders keep James Murdoch as Chairman of British Sky Broadcasting plc

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15942181

Damien 29-11-2011 16:38
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He has know claimed he was responsible for the hacking story. Can't remember his name in any bylines.

Maggy 29-11-2011 17:50
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The difference between him and Nick Davis is tremendous.Davis is a true investigative reporter, McMullen is a hack.

Maggy 30-11-2011 10:16
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Alastair Campbell giving evidence at the Leveson Inquiry at the moment.

denphone 30-11-2011 19:19
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...rid-press.html

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Former Downing Street director of communications Alastair Campbell has said that the press is "frankly putrid in many of its elements", adding that newspapers consider coverage of the lives of celebrities as "public service
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He said that a "very, very small number of people" have "frankly besmirched the name of every journalist in the country", and criticised the industry's "shift downmarket" amid fierce competition and the rise of celebrity magazines
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Campbell said that the Press Complaints Commission has "failed" as a regulator for the media, because it is a "body that's been of the press and for the press". But he feels that getting regulation of the press right now could have positive benefits for the future of online media

slowcoach 30-11-2011 21:00
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35337989)
See the new VM Broadband Homepage for a case in point, total drivel.
I find it hard to believe that we have a higher educated population these days, perhaps the education system is more targeted these days rather than providing a more rounded general education, who knows... :dozey:

Maggy 30-11-2011 21:08
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Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 35338065)
See the new VM Broadband Homepage for a case in point, total drivel.
I find it hard to believe that we have a higher educated population these days, perhaps the education system is more targeted these days rather than providing a more rounded general education, who knows... :dozey:
I'm trying to understand the relevance of the above comment?:confused:

slowcoach 01-12-2011 07:31
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35338070)
I'm trying to understand the relevance of the above comment?:confused:
It's relative to the post above mine where denphone quotes “Former Downing Street director of communications Alastair Campbell has said that the press is "frankly putrid in many of its elements", adding that newspapers consider coverage of the lives of celebrities as "public service

Virgin Media being part of the media, and presumably providing what people want to see on it's Homepage, must leave even you wondering if education has failed the masses... case in point, today's top story on the Homepage “Simon Cowell will be back on Britain's Got Talent as a judge, but who's going to join him?”, give me strength.

denphone 07-12-2011 09:51
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...stigation.html

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A 41-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of phone hacking and perverting the course of justice, according to Scotland Yard
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The man becomes the 18th arrest in Scotland Yard's Operation Weeting investigation into phone hacking, including former News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks and ex-Downing Street communications chief Andy Coulson

Maggy 07-12-2011 10:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 35338237)
It's relative to the post above mine where denphone quotes “Former Downing Street director of communications Alastair Campbell has said that the press is "frankly putrid in many of its elements", adding that newspapers consider coverage of the lives of celebrities as "public service

Virgin Media being part of the media, and presumably providing what people want to see on it's Homepage, must leave even you wondering if education has failed the masses... case in point, today's top story on the Homepage “Simon Cowell will be back on Britain's Got Talent as a judge, but who's going to join him?”, give me strength.
Well VM are not of the press.They are more of the provider of entertainment so they have to promote the TV productions that make money for them via advertisements.So I think you are being a tad harsh there myself.
Also VM do not send out masses of journos to find out salacious facts like the press do.No comparison to be made I'm afraid.;)

devilincarnate 13-12-2011 18:04
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Who is a bad boy?

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An email chain has been released which shows James Murdoch was copied into messages where the potential scope of phone hacking at the News of the World was discussed in June 2008.

One of the emails mentions a potential "nightmare scenario" arising out of a case brought by Gordon Taylor, head of the PFA footballers' union.

Mr Murdoch has said he only read the most recent email in the chain, requesting a meeting - and says he knew nothing about widespread wrongdoing at News International papers.

The emails, copies of which have now been given to the Commons culture, media and sport committee of MPs, discuss the case being taken by phone hacking victim Mr Taylor.

The email trail says Mr Taylor wants to "demonstrate what happened to him was rife throughout the organisation".

In a letter to MPs Mr Murdoch says he was "confident" he had not read the full email chain.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16165213

gba93 13-12-2011 18:22
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35344895)

Also from the above link:

Mr Myler then forwarded the three emails in a chain on to Mr Murdoch, saying it is "unfortunately it is as bad as we feared", and asks for five minutes with him on the following Tuesday.

Mr Murdoch replies two minutes later, saying: "No worries. I am in during the afternoon. If you want to talk before I'll be home tonight after seven and most of the day tomorrow."

So let's consider the facts - you are in charge of a multi-million pound organisation, someone tells you "it is as bad as we feared" - you are not aware of any problems but you don't bother to read the linked emails you just agree to a meeting - I DON'T THINK SO :rolleyes:

devilincarnate 13-12-2011 19:05
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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35344906)
Also from the above link:

Mr Myler then forwarded the three emails in a chain on to Mr Murdoch, saying it is "unfortunately it is as bad as we feared", and asks for five minutes with him on the following Tuesday.

Mr Murdoch replies two minutes later, saying: "No worries. I am in during the afternoon. If you want to talk before I'll be home tonight after seven and most of the day tomorrow."

So let's consider the facts - you are in charge of a multi-million pound organisation, someone tells you "it is as bad as we feared" - you are not aware of any problems but you don't bother to read the linked emails you just agree to a meeting - I DON'T THINK SO :rolleyes:
Nail and head come to mind:D

Maggy 13-12-2011 20:37
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Paul McMullen may have come across as a real sleaze but at least he was honest about what he did and was above denial..but as he said there were those in the chain of command who knew far more than they are admitting, pointing the finger at Coulson and the redheaded one.

I suspect that it did go up as far as JM.

Stuart 13-12-2011 23:26
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Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 35338065)
See the new VM Broadband Homepage for a case in point, total drivel.
I find it hard to believe that we have a higher educated population these days, perhaps the education system is more targeted these days rather than providing a more rounded general education, who knows... :dozey:
I don't think that VM source their own news for their sites. I believe they just licence it from newspapers.

Damien 13-12-2011 23:45
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35344977)
Paul McMullen may have come across as a real sleaze but at least he was honest about what he did and was above denial..but as he said there were those in the chain of command who knew far more than they are admitting, pointing the finger at Coulson and the redheaded one.
I think McMullen was a professional troll seeking to crave out a small career as a go-to villain. He was way too provocative. He has been on several news shows doing the same kind of thing before. I mean the phrase 'Privacy is for Pedos' was classic....

Chris 14-12-2011 09:37
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Pure, crafted soundbite is what it was. And I bet he was foremost at moaning when nu-Labour were at it in the 90s.

AdamD 15-12-2011 19:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 35338237)
Virgin Media being part of the media, and presumably providing what people want to see on it's Homepage, must leave even you wondering if education has failed the masses... case in point, today's top story on the Homepage “Simon Cowell will be back on Britain's Got Talent as a judge, but who's going to join him?”, give me strength.
Heh, was thinking something similiar today when I had a gander at the BBC site, who's main story was about the IMF/Europe, plus the military security for 2012 olympics

A quick look at the Sun's main stories and it's about some idiot from XFactor being drunk or high and someone claiming to be Jimmy Savile's love child...

lol, kinda sad really that papers like the sun, are so popular.;)

Maggy 15-12-2011 20:40
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This is not about VM.They are not investigative journalists.They merely place the news gleaned from other sources on their web page. To compare them to the Sun is unfair.

Anyway this is a digression from the topic which is about the hacking scandal.

Damien 16-12-2011 15:28
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35346524)
Maybe the NOTW was sacrificed to appease the Guardianistas and the BBC rather than from any real wrong doing. (This time) That may seem amazing to some members here who hate the NI empire with a level of venom.
Any real wrong doing? They still hacked and listened in on the voice-mails of a murdered school girl. Anyone who thinks that this isn't abhorrent, that it somehow absolves NOTW in this matter, is being either disingenuous or lacks a sense of reason into what should be considered acceptable behaviour by the press.

It doesn't stop there though, this was part of a collection of stories. They hacked numerous people whilst denying it at various stages even though it's now quite clear that they knew at the time it went beyond the 'single reporter'. It was a entire avalanche of stories that ended up closing NOTW, Brooks herself said she had seen there were more stories to come.

RizzyKing 17-12-2011 15:15
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"some members here who hate the NI empire" I don't limit myself to NI daily mail as well they are an example of all that is wrong with society today constantly looking to get one section of society onto the back of another and victimise them for the sake of pathetic headlines. Our press has become little more then lowlife guttersnipes in the last thirty years and no longer work for the good of the people they work for the good of their banner's and nothing else and damn to who might be hurt or damaged in the process.

Maggy 20-12-2011 09:41
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Piers Morgan at the Leveson Inquiry today via video link.

denphone 21-12-2011 11:24
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16283935

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Phone hacking appeared to be a "bog-standard journalistic tool" for gathering information, a former Daily Mirror financial reporter has said.

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He told the Leveson Inquiry into media ethics that he overheard showbiz journalists openly talking about it.

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In a statement read to the inquiry, he stated: "I witnessed journalists carrying out repeated privacy infringements using what has now become a well-known technique - to hack into the voicemail systems of celebrities, their friends, publicists and public relations executives.

Maggy 21-12-2011 14:30
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/wo...nt&tntemail1=y
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The CNN talk-show host Piers Morgan declared on Tuesday that as the editor in chief of two British tabloids from 1994 to 2004, he knew no one who hacked phones or paid police officers for information.
Sometimes annoyed, sometimes combative, often terse in testimony that he delivered by video link from Los Angeles, Mr. Morgan told a British investigation into news media practices that “ethical considerations were interwoven into my work” at both papers, The News of the World and The Daily Mirror
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Other witnesses have testified that phone hacking was rife at The Mirror while Mr. Morgan was its editor, from 1995 to 2004; a lawyer for the inquiry said that the police had evidence that the practice went on. But Mr. Morgan repeatedly testified that it did not, and that he knew nothing about it. Nor did he admit that anything he did at The Mirror was ethically wrong. He stuck to these positions even when presented with statements apparently to the contrary that he himself had made in interviews and in his tell-all 2005 memoir, “The Insider.”
Hmm! Even today it's been suggested that he knew more than he has admitted. See previous post.

devilincarnate 21-12-2011 19:06
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Phone hacking appeared to be a "bog-standard journalistic tool" for gathering information, a former Daily Mirror financial reporter has said.

James Hipwell, who was jailed in 2006 for writing about firms whose shares he owned, said he witnessed repeated privacy infringements at the paper.

He told the Leveson Inquiry into media ethics that he overheard showbiz journalists openly talking about it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16283935

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A 52-year-old serving police officer has been arrested as part of an inquiry into alleged illegal payments from journalists, Scotland Yard has said.

The woman was arrested at a property in Essex on Wednesday morning and is being held at a police station in the county.

She is the eighth person - and first police officer - to be arrested as part of Operation Elveden.

Operation Elveden is running alongside the Metropolitan Police's phone-hacking investigation, Operation Weeting.

The Met said the woman was arrested at a residential address at about 06:00 GMT.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16283948

Maggy 21-12-2011 20:29
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The Leveson Inquiry is closed until the 9th of January.

Mr Angry 22-12-2011 00:12
Coulson....
 
hung out to dry?

So it seems.

Hugh 22-12-2011 09:54
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35349336)
hung out to dry?

So it seems.
Good - I hope the same applies to James Murdoch.....

denphone 22-12-2011 10:01
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35349336)
hung out to dry?

So it seems.
No sympathy here as if you sell your soul to the devil then you must suffer the consequences of that alliance.

Pierre 22-12-2011 13:47
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35349336)
hung out to dry?

So it seems.
Who cares?

This story became boring months ago, and irrelevant weeks ago.

Time to move on

Maggy 22-12-2011 17:19
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35349512)
Who cares?

This story became boring months ago, and irrelevant weeks ago.

Time to move on

No not until all the investigations into criminal activities are complete and Justice Leveson has completed his Inquiry and submitted his findings.Then the government will probably bury the report and we will then move on.

As to relevancy well if you want the police corrupted and our politicians corrupted and the policies of governance left to the tabloid newspapers owned by a minority of totally unelected millionaires then by all means ignore the whole issue and bury YOUR head in the sand.

There are those of us who are determined not to let it drop for as long as we can pursue it. I'm not prepared to allow a so called free press call the shots about how my country is run.

Maggy 03-01-2012 10:01
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/us...nt&tntemail1=y

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Shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, relatives of some of the victims began suspecting that someone was eavesdropping on their telephones.
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Ten years later, their long-held suspicions aroused by The News of the World phone-hacking scandal in London, dozens of relatives of victims contacted the Justice Department. On Aug. 24, eight of them met with Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and asked him to determine whether their privacy had been violated. As a first step, they asked him to see whether Scotland Yard had a record of their names or phone numbers among the material seized from a private investigator who hacked cellphone messages for the tabloid.
Four months later, they are still waiting to hear back and are frustrated by the Justice Department’s silence.
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Jodi Westbrook Flowers, a lawyer at a South Carolina firm that represents more than 6,700 relatives of Sept. 11 victims, said she and her colleagues had scoured the British tabloids and found scores of details about the victims. Relatives were not certain how the tabloids found out so much so quickly after the attacks.
One of the relatives, whom she declined to identify, said that five days after Sept. 11, The Sun published the words from a voice mail message left on his cellphone by his son, who was aboard one of the planes that hit the World Trade Center. (British authorities are also investigating whether hacking occurred at The Sun, which, like The News of the World, is owned by News Corporation.)
Even if it's not phone hacking someone has been underhand in obtaining information.:erm:

Alan Fry 03-01-2012 12:55
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It is the case that other non-News Corp newspapers were involved with Phone Hacking?

Maggy 03-01-2012 14:33
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35353974)
It is the case that other non-News Corp newspapers were involved with Phone Hacking?
I suggest you take a look at the Democracy Live pages at the BBC and watch the recorded sessions of the Leveson Inquiry rather than expect everyone here to tell you what's occurred and what's been discovered or you could read the backlog of this thread which has numerous links to a variety of articles on the subject.

Oh and there are recordings of Select Committee sessions about this issue.

Chris 04-01-2012 12:42
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35353926)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/us...nt&tntemail1=y

Even if it's not phone hacking someone has been underhand in obtaining information.:erm:
yep. It's called blagging, it goes on at every level of our print media from your weekly free-sheet to the nationals, and it's one of the reasons I got out of the industry (having realised being good at reporting probably meant being good at blagging too).

denphone 06-01-2012 14:02
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16439328

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A former executive assistant to ex-News of the World editor Rebekah Brooks has been arrested by police investigating phone hacking, the BBC understands.

Scotland Yard said a 47-year-old woman was arrested in Essex on Friday on suspicion of attempting to pervert the course of justice.

The BBC understands she is Cheryl Carter
Quote:
The latest arrest happened at about 06:55 GMT on Friday, and the woman is in custody

Maggy 10-01-2012 18:32
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16494872

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The Daily Telegraph paid the middle man in the MPs' expenses story £150,000 for the disc containing the information, the Leveson Inquiry has heard.
Former editor Will Lewis said he was initially concerned the story was a hoax but soon realised he had a "responsibility" to publish it.
Quote:
He also denied the paper had dragged out its reporting for commercial gain.
That's a lot of money..:erm:

Maggy 18-01-2012 19:01
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Caught up with Ian Hislop's appearance at the Leveson Inquiry..Interesting to watch.

Damien 19-01-2012 11:44
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News International has settled a number of hacking cases today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16629036

Maggy 20-01-2012 14:39
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16634365

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The High Court has awarded several high-profile figures tens of thousands of pounds over phone hacking by the now-defunct News of the World. Here, some react for the first time.
At least there is no gagging clause THIS time.

However what I really want to see is some actual prosecutions..

Damien 23-01-2012 12:40
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16682663

Quote:
Surrey Police says detectives did not give the News of the World messages from the voicemail of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler.

In a letter to MPs, the force said that the newspaper accessed the phone.

The allegation that the newspaper hacked Milly Dowler's phone in 2002 is at the heart of the investigation into the closed title and its journalists.

denphone 23-01-2012 13:02
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-in-april.html

Quote:
Rupert Murdoch has already seen "draft designs" of a Sunday version of The Sun and the paper could launch in April, a Labour MP has claimed.

Tom Watson, who has been a constant critic of Murdoch's media empire in the phone hacking scandal, said that a source at News Corporation informed him that the new Sunday paper is getting close to launch.

He said that Murdoch has already seen proposed designs for The Sun on Sunday, and that the paper will launch this spring at a cheap price.
Lets hope not as l for one will never purchase this rubbish.:(

Maggy 27-01-2012 21:42
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http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_murdoch...888936&v=12287

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The BBC is being forced to hand over tens of millions of pounds every year to line Murdoch’s pockets. Murdoch’s cronies in government are determined to save this scheme -- but together we can stop this outrage.
If anyone thinks this needs altering then please sign the petition.

Damien 27-01-2012 23:20
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I am confused. They need to pay BSkyB to show their programming? Isn't that fair enough, or do they mean they need to pay BSkyB to show BBC programming?

RizzyKing 28-01-2012 01:13
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Glad it's not just me looked for more info found mention of a figure of a hundred million but no real detail on what this is about.

Maggy 28-01-2012 09:49
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35370645)
I am confused. They need to pay BSkyB to show their programming? Isn't that fair enough, or do they mean they need to pay BSkyB to show BBC programming?
Exactly.:tu:

Sirius 28-01-2012 14:45
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16771809

Quote:
Four former and current Sun journalists and a police officer have been arrested by detectives investigating payments made to police by journalists.
The rabbit hole is getting deeper and deeper

RizzyKing 28-01-2012 15:20
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Ok petition signed cannot believe such a ridiculous deal ever got approved. As well as getting this stopped i would like to know who the people were that brokered and approved this disgusting misuse of licence money.

Alan Fry 28-01-2012 15:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35367775)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-in-april.html



Lets hope not as l for one will never purchase this rubbish.:(
Will there be a new version of the Mock The Week theme song, replacing "News of The World" with "The Sun on Sunday" :D

Hugh 28-01-2012 15:49
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Considering it is a song by The Jam, probably not...

Damien 28-01-2012 19:05
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The sun seems to have been dragged in eh? Oh well :D

Maggy 28-01-2012 19:13
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16771809

Quote:
The Met said the arrests, part of Operation Elveden, were prompted by information given to police by News Corporation.
Hmmm!

Quote:
News Corporation and its management and standards committee (MSC) issued a statement following the arrests saying it had made a commitment last summer that unacceptable news gathering practices by individuals in the past would not be repeated.
"It commissioned the management and standards committee to undertake a review of all News International titles, regardless of cost, and to proactively co-operate with law enforcement and other authorities if potentially relevant information arose at those titles.
"As a result of that review, which is ongoing, the MSC provided information to the Elveden investigation which led to today's arrests."
Hmmm!

Quote:
An internal email from Tom Mockridge, the chief executive of Sun owner News International, on Saturday told staff the company was providing legal support to those being interviewed by police, while officers were conducting a limited search at The Sun's offices, supervised by the MSC's lawyers.
So I wonder who the scapegoats are..and how long they will get legal support for?

LondonRoad 29-01-2012 14:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35371100)
So I wonder who the scapegoats are..and how long they will get legal support for?
...I also wonder who they are trying to protect by offering this sacrifice.

TheDaddy 30-01-2012 07:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35371094)
The sun seems to have been dragged in eh? Oh well :D
Notice that The Sun on Sunday's launch date is exactly 1 week after Leveson finishes, how convenient... :td:

devilincarnate 31-01-2012 18:32
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35371908)
Notice that The Sun on Sunday's launch date is exactly 1 week after Leveson finishes, how convenient... :td:
Quote:
© Rex Features
Plans for the launch of a new Sunday version of The Sun as a replacement for the News of the World have reportedly been put on hold following the arrest of four senior journalists connected to the paper.

Known as Project X, the Sun on Sunday has been widely rumoured to be in the works for some months, including recent reports suggesting that late April had been earmarked for its launch.

However, the Financial Times cites three senior insiders at publisher News International as saying that the project has been halted after raids by police on four senior journalists at the weekend.

Sirius 31-01-2012 22:05
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I would love to see it fail, However the Sun sheepel will still go ahead and buy it. :rolleyes:

denphone 31-01-2012 22:07
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35373147)
I would love to see it fail, However the Sun sheepel will still go ahead and buy it. :rolleyes:

Some of them can never be educated about that rubbish.

Sirius 31-01-2012 22:13
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35373151)
Some of them can never be educated about that rubbish.
Glad to see some of there reporters being nicked over this. Next i want to see Skynews get dragged into this because they are just the Sun on telly

Maggy 31-01-2012 22:20
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35373163)
Glad to see some of there reporters being nicked over this. Next i want to see Skynews get dragged into this because they are just the Sun on telly
Why?They have to adhere to very strict broadcasting rules and are not self regulated.They are no Fox News by a long chalk.

Alan Fry 01-02-2012 12:41
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Yes, but if there was phone (and other forms) hacking at News International, they it is likely it would happen at Sky News as well, they sholud investigate TV News as well as Newspapers and Magazines

Remember Sky News shares resources with Fox News and they are both owned by the same company

Maggy 01-02-2012 17:48
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35373380)
Yes, but if there was phone (and other forms) hacking at News International, they it is likely it would happen at Sky News as well, they sholud investigate TV News as well as Newspapers and Magazines

Remember Sky News shares resources with Fox News and they are both owned by the same company
Sigh! There is no need for an investigation unless there is any evidence.So far none has emerged that ANY of the broadcasters of news in the UK are guilty of any crime.It must also be reiterated that there are really strong regulatory bodies to oversee broadcasting far stronger and with real teeth than the PCC.

The broaccasting regulators have given evidence to the Leveson Inquiry and to Parliamentary select committees on this issue.

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 08:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35373590)
Sigh! There is no need for an investigation unless there is any evidence.So far none has emerged that ANY of the broadcasters of news in the UK are guilty of any crime.It must also be reiterated that there are really strong regulatory bodies to oversee broadcasting far stronger and with real teeth than the PCC.

The broaccasting regulators have given evidence to the Leveson Inquiry and to Parliamentary select committees on this issue.
You mean Ofcom, who are no more then a arm of BSkyB

denphone 02-02-2012 08:54
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...The-Times.html

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Police investiagating allegations of email hacking at The Times
The Metropolitan Police are investigating allegations of email hacking at the Times Newspaper, sources have revealed.
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It is understood the investigation relates to claims that a former reporter at the Murdoch owned newspaper hacked into the emails of an anonymous police blogger.

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 08:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35373892)
Oh god, now the Times, how could they fall so low, then again they are part of News Corp!

Maggy 02-02-2012 09:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35373886)
You mean Ofcom, who are no more then a arm of BSkyB
Actually Ofcom have done far more in standing up to Murdoch's empire than the PCC or Government IF you had been paying any attention.Ofcom were the one body that said that Murdoch should not be allowed to buy BSkyb outright..It was the government who were going to allow it through on the nod..It's just that Ofcom hasn't the teeth to tell the government to get lost and to stop interfering.

Plus Ofcom is actually an INDEPENDENT regulatory body unlike the PCC.

---------- Post added at 09:53 ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 ----------

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/wo...nt&tntemail1=y

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An e-mail to Rupert Murdoch’s son James that referred to “a nightmare scenario” of legal repercussions from widespread phone hacking at the News of the World tabloid was deleted from his computer less than two weeks before the police opened their current investigation into phone hacking, lawyers said Wednesday. The deletion was part of an “e-mail stabilization and modernization program” in which accounts were “being prepared for the migration to a new e-mail system,” said Linklaters, a law firm representing News International, the British newspaper arm of the Murdoch media empire.The e-mail was a chain of messages sent June 7, 2008, to James Murdoch, head of News Corporation’s European and Asian operations, warning that the potential legal fallout from hacking at The News of the World was “as bad as we feared.”
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The disclosure of the deletion came in a letter from Linklaters to the Commons committee. The letter says that the deletion occurred on Jan. 15, 2011. Operation Weeting, the police inquiry into phone hacking at The News of the World, began 11 days later.
Well,well,well.Do we believe this?

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 09:57
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I think the best thing the Murdochs they should do is Merge News Corp with Time Warner, they would like a major TV Network in the US and more Cable channels, the Murdochs will be the biggest shareholders in Time Warner, while they would no longer mangage a company!

Stuart 02-02-2012 10:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35373907)
Actually Ofcom have done far more in standing up to Murdoch's empire than the PCC or Government IF you had been paying any attention.Ofcom were the one body that said that Murdoch should not be allowed to buy BSkyb outright..It was the government who were going to allow it through on the nod..It's just that Ofcom hasn't the teeth to tell the government to get lost and to stop interfering.

Plus Ofcom is actually an INDEPENDENT regulatory body unlike the PCC.

Not to mention, IIRC, resisting Murdoch's repeated calls for a 6th national terrestrial channel.

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 10:17
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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35373926)
Not to mention, IIRC, resisting Murdoch's repeated calls for a 6th national terrestrial channel.
We are going to get that!

http://www.t3.com/news/sixth-nationa...estrial-roster

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...vision-channel

We also used to have Six TV

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_TV

I want these Local TV channels to be part of the BBC

Stuart 02-02-2012 10:52
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That's seperate.. What Murdoch wanted is to be given the licence to create a new Sky channel.

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 10:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35373948)
That's seperate.. What Murdoch wanted is to be given the licence to create a new Sky channel.
Wouldn that be Sky Six?

They should just buy Channel 5 insted


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