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You may want to remove your MAC from your post Chrysalis if that is it.
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The last two tables on the Connection screen:
Primary Downstream Service Flow Primary Upstream Service Flow Are the ones that say what the SuperHub should be provisioned at |
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Anyway here's an example (pulled from VM forums) of what it should look like: link |
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You did call in and get that thing provisioned Chrys?
It's locked to the VXR right now, if properly provisioned it should then be retuned to the overlay network, which isn't happening. |
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Rang up. Lady asked me to confirm last 3 digits of mac. She said done. Asked if green light on for tick box I said yes. I noticed offline and status looked whacked, asked her to confirm its working. She said her end shows good but wait 5 mins. Ended call. I guess I need to ring back. ---------- Post added at 10:17 ---------- Previous post was at 10:16 ---------- Quote:
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click on the Super Hub Status
Information Standard Specification CompliantEU DOCSIS 3.0 Hardware Version2.00 Software VersionV5.5.2R20 |
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I was waiting for tesco to come before ringing back as didnt want to be on phone when they came, luckily they came early so ringing back now. |
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15 minute call with agent scratching head, he said all he could do is keep forcing the new config to modem, worked on 5th attempt.
Procedure Status Comment Acquire Downstream Channel 323000000 Hz Locked Connectivity State OK Operational Boot State OK Operational Configuration File OK Security Enabled BPI+ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Downstream Channels Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power SNR Docsis/EuroDocsis locked Locked QAM256 112 55616000 Kbits/sec 323000000 Hz -0.1 dBmV 41.8 dB Hybrid Locked QAM256 109 55616000 Kbits/sec 299000000 Hz 0.7 dBmV 42.5 dB Hybrid Locked QAM256 110 55616000 Kbits/sec 307000000 Hz 0.5 dBmV 42.5 dB Hybrid Locked QAM256 111 55616000 Kbits/sec 315000000 Hz 0.1 dBmV 42.0 dB Hybrid Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power Locked TDMA 8 10240 Kbits/sec 47400000 Hz 44.2 dBmV Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV Primary Downstream Service Flow Downstream(0) SFID 15233 Max Traffic Rate 32220000 bps Max Traffic Burst 3044 bytes Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Primary Upstream Service Flow Upstream(0) SFID 16002 Max Traffic Rate 1111000 bps Max Traffic Burst 8160 bytes Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps Max Concatenated Burst 8160 bytes Scheduling Type Best Effort solid 3.8meg down on speedtest https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/145.png http://www.pingtest.net/result/33739231.png |
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Nice. Proper QAM16 upload as well now, still Docsis 1 speeds but better than QPSK :)
Wonder how things will hold up and what effect 200mbps of load-balanced downstream will do for your congestion issues |
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So far jitter seems lower but bear in mind ive been seeing slow steady improvements on this anyway as I think VM have been making space on the overlay network. The stand out is the 1.05meg upload, before I unplugged the old modem I did a speedtest and was still only 0.32up. |
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Good to start seeing some happy chappies who now have their upgrade / downgrade ;)
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Looks like we need to nag someone. We are currently paying for L BB at £25.25 per month. The new package is £18.50 (after the first 6 months) for XL BB. :confused:
Not allowed to change package on-line either :mis: |
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How stingy that the non-uplifted areas only get 32.22Mbps down while the uplifted ones get 33.33! ;)
Anyway, yes, good to see peeps on the new service as opposed to complaints about having to pay the list price for it. |
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BTW our BBL is only 10Mb but has no restrictions up/down. How does this compare to the new L package and if it is cheaper how do we get it? |
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The news for the 30mb/s is very much welcomed.
Although I am disappointed in the charge for the superhub... My position is that i'm at the end of my contract with virgin. Now i would like the 30mb/s currently on the 20meg service but the cost of £30 is something I dont want to pay, probably like alot of the posts I have read on this thread. To me the cost is understandable but What really is to stop me from cancelling with virgin and then resign up after 38/30 days or whatever the cooling off period is? In actual fact I would save even more money by taking advantage of the new customer offers. In this example would it not be better to retain me as a customer and offer the superhub free? Virgin would gain more money from me instead of the discounts they offer as a new customer... |
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There is only one price for XL (30) so you get the same ongoing monthly price for it as everyone else as far as I'm aware.
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Ordered my upgrade on the 1st, got the siperhub delivered this morning. Thats what I call rapid service.
One question though... Where the heck is the "Attached Devices" list? I have a headless mediaserver (no monitor) in my bedroom, and dont fancy lugging a monitor upstairs just to find out what ip the superhub has assigned to it. |
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have mine booked for 11th Feb and have to DIY,
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Got my router today via courier setup and activated in 10 minutes , the weird thing is when I log into my virgin media it now says internet package Dial. Anyway speeds are good getting 30 down and 3 up.
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this new service is decent value in my opinion as long as it performs reasonably within spec (not too congested).
upload of 1.05 same as what I used to get on ukonline adsl, with a 1.22meg up sync, so cable uploads when compared to adsl take in the factor of no ATM overhead. The download speed is miles ahead of what my BT line can give me. |
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Oh, a question I just thought of.
What am I supposed to do with the old AMBIT265 modem? I believe it has to be returned to VM, but there was no returns bag/box sent out to me? |
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In theory the dir 615 and cisco I got here both owned by VM. But the reality is they wont care and I get to keep them.
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... which is why so many of them end up on fleabay. :erm:
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Even staff have to pay £30 to upgrade so no one is special. |
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Interesting to see the config file is provisioning 32.2mb down and 1.11mb up. Looks like the 50mb-style overprovisioning (presumably for speed test purposes) is still happening.
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And setting it higher so people get closer to what is advertised is an issue because.....?
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That explains why it was initially green but went blue later when the guy was working on it. I suggest you feed this back to the activation team because on my first call the lady specifically asked about this light, when I told her was green she answered thats good. So tell them to ask if its blue and it may save some people some headaches. |
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Ordered online yesterday and got the email today confirming that we will be getting it from the 11th. it says tech install, but I am unsure as there are mixed messages saying this is actually self install (modem delivered by HDN) but the emails are saying tech.
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If it says ALLDAY then it'll be a delivery
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Someone said in the past 50mb was over-provisioned as it was their flagship product and they wanted it to look better in speed tests for marketing reasons. Presumably they did the same to 30mb as they're pitching it vs 40mb FTTC, and arguing they expect people to achieve faster average speeds on it. So it looks like they're attempting to artificially inflate speedtest results in order to validate that claim. Add an extra 2.2mbps to your speed test results and of course your product will look better vs. the competition. Not to say it's a bad thing - the customer ends up with a higher average speed - but it's a sneaky marketing ploy if you ask me. |
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They cant even get my 20mb running properly never mind 30mb with a superhub, Tech coming tomoro and not leaving my street till he has upped my upstream from 31 :-(
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I got a letter from virgin this morning about my broadband..:)
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Now dont like using the phone but want to deal with a human rather than the automated upgrade service for this so whats the number I would be best ringing? I'm okay if I know I'm getting through to the right place. |
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Customer Services do have all the info and tools to process the upgrade
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I ordered 2 days ago the lady in sales told me she would phone me back and she hasn't bothered.:rolleyes:
So I don't think I will bother if they can't do a simple thing like taking an order. |
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updated 3.45pm speedtest.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/140.png some slowdown on upload, download still strong. |
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She said earliest activation would be Fri 11th, would be delivered by UPS and self install, and new monthly payments would actually be reduced (which I knew they should from online, but you never know what happens when you actually are speaking to someone. I asked for more information about self install and specifically asked if there was somewhere I would need to phone or if it would be automatic - she said automatic. So from looking at this thread while she was up to speed with the upgrade ordering, sounds like she's not so up to speed on the actual upgrade/update process. Just a little nervous though as I'm looking at some of these posts with problems and all the info they're giving to try to get help and I wouldn't even know where to begin to look at or find any of that info - so I hope it goes smoothly or else I'll be back for some hand-holding walkthrough's! Give me software to work with (Office, photoshop, publisher etc) and I'm good to go - talk hardware configuration and my eyes glaze over and I get palpitations :dunce: |
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Well I rang up 150 about 20 mins ago and ended up taking 50mb instead lol. Do I have to stick with 50mb for the whole 12 months or can I downgrade after X amount of months if I feel its not for me?
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seems I did right to order early, you guys waiting 8 days now.
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my sister phoned up to get the upgrade today hub will be there by( sorry next ) friday that's good.
but they have switched the mac number on the system over today. so now she has no internet . that's bad |
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i ordered monday, it was delivered today @10, installed by myself in 10 mins - had to move the desk!! 2 laptops, ipod, and my desire on wireless, pc wired all by 10:30. echo the comment earlier about the green/blue send/receive light, guy on the activation line didn't seem to know about the different colours, just asked for all green lights.
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Your loss if you do not callback to confirm. |
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Actually it's 28 days if I am not mistaken.
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top blue came on when i changed the 802.11N Band to 5ghz. |
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Honestly it is all dumbed down so as to be as non confusing as possible. Just have your account number to hand, write down the MAC code printed on the Superhub and call the number in the literature. It takes a while (10) minute to settle down and if you have a switched off computer connected into one of the ethernet ports you are good to go when the lights are green, green, blue (top). My P.C.'s were set up up with static IP's in a different router's range scale with also specified DNS servers which would have caused complications. Most people use DHCP with auto allocated DNS so unless you have specified something other than default, it should be plain sailing. The router access IP is in the literature along with user name + initial password (needs changing). Wireless is easy to set up and sets to good security straight out of the box. I can see about 12 networks around my house and 4 are wide open but just follow the simple instructions and it does it all with good security. You have nothing to worry about unless you already have levels of complications with multiple networks or devices using different levels of wireless eg B, G & N. If you had you would already be working out the work arounds so don't worry. I as one of the 20meg sceptics who didn't want to lose out on upgrading but with a satisfactory deal went for it and am pleased that I did. I feel sorry for people who are in non upload upgraded areas because until they are sorted they will not see numbers like these. https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/131.png |
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Also, some more advanced internet users may wish to opt out of Virgin Medias "advanced network error search" after changing to the superhub.
You apparently have to opt-out every time you change your modem. |
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I wanted to do the upgrade from 20 to 30 but due to my deals I couldnt get it for less than £5 a month extra, or 50mb for £10 per month extra.
I think I will wait a bit longer. Shame though. |
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The retentions guy told me to wait and I will get it free soon enough as they want people on docsis 3. |
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Cant beleive VM.
Spent ages on the phone talking to customer services and sales team. I have 20mb broadband, tvxl and phone. For me to upgrade from 20mb to 30mb, I have to pay a one off £30, then an extra £10 a month due to my loyalty discount. How can they call that a free upgrade? |
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The only thing I managed to get offered was a one off £15 credit against the swap, so an actual cost to change for the next year of £75 more.
I want to do the deal but dont want to pay more. when is the tivo box due, I may wait to do a combo deal. |
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The difference between Gigabit and lesser ethernet speeds is that the port light for Gigabit is green and the lower ones, amber. They are the trans\rec lights. |
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Ordered mine Tuesday (1/2/11) got new Superhub today (3/2/11), and all done and dusted now.
getting: http://www.amgard.net/images/30mb.jpg and https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/138.png no problems :) |
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I just want the new hub with gig switch so I can free up a gig switch and make the network a bit tidier with the wiring. |
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Thought I would chip in this thread with my experiences with this upgrade (or lack of)
As I had read in this thread, upgrades seem impossible if you have an old/loyalty/retention deal of a certain kind. I currently have 20MB broadband and XL TV package for £42.50 a month and a HD box I bought for £70 a while back. I received a mail shot today and just called them up. I have been told that the reason I can't have the upgrade is because I don't have a land line deal with them, after stating that I've never had a landline and don't want one they offered me the upgrade for a £30 one-off fee and a new monthly bill of £58! So as you can assume I'm not upgrading at the moment :( |
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Just plugged my new Super Hub in and activated it, good speed test results but not as good as what's been posted here. I can hit 26-27Mb/s down and around 1.5-2Mb/s up.
Previously on 20Mb I'd consistently get 19.55Mb/s down and 1.96Mb/s up. Might wait a while and see what the Sam Knows Dashboard reports, it could just be traffic on the speedtest.net nodes... --EDIT-- Ignore me, plugged straight into the Super Hub with Ethernet and it hit 31Mb/s down but still only 2Mb/s up... Might have to simplify my network setup, I've currently got WiFi on the Super Hub turned off and Ethernet to my Airport Extreme with 2.4Ghz 802.11b/g/n turned on. |
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After 3 calls to VM I'm totally confused!
First call they hung up on me because I politely said I couldn't understand him as he spoke with a heavy foreign accent and was speaking too fast. I tried again and was told I couldn't have the upgrade without losing my retention/loyalty deal. As far as I was aware I only had a discount for having 3 packages. Never threatened to leave and only contact was when I upgraded my box to a HD Cisco and had HD activated about 10 months ago. I do accept it's I started a new contract then. This is my bill. Telephone Line Rental £12.24 Talk Evening and Weekends £3.50 Phone, Bband XL & TV Discount £-17.00 TV Size: M £0.00 V HD Box £0.00 Broadband Size: X L £37.00 On the 3rd call I asked again and they said that it was only available at £18.50 + £30 activation if I had XL tv package but that might (he wasn't sure on this) mean me losing my -17.00 discount. I was actually going to upgrade to xl tv anyway and said I'd think about it. He then told me that it was pointless upgrading as my area wasn't upgraded yet (Blackburn). Why does everything have to be so difficult? And just how do you get to talk to someone in UK? Not really happy about this because I've been loyal to cable since Nynex days. Moan over :D |
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