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telegramsam 07-02-2011 13:00

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35168733)
Just to let everyone know over on DS someone has started an thread up with an rumour saying ''Unofficial Where getting 9 new Asian channels On Cable''

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1433471

I hope not!

Media Boy UK 07-02-2011 13:25

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An insider confrim to me that the Asian channels on Virgin Media is being ''look at again''.

But I was not given any channel names.

ahardie 07-02-2011 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35169146)
I hope not!

Why? If they can make a profit from selling on these channels to the Asian community then good luck to them. And if the asian community is willing to pay for them then why shouldn't they have them?

Digital Fanatic 07-02-2011 13:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35169146)
I hope not!

Why? The Asian channels on VM are very profitable and will mean more choice.

WillPS 07-02-2011 13:53

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FiveUSA is to become 5USA: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...023370.article

muppetman11 07-02-2011 14:02

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http://www.techwatch.co.uk/2011/02/0...in-derbyshire/

*******s

LexDiamond 07-02-2011 16:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35169188)
Why? The Asian channels on VM are very profitable and will mean more choice.

Don't VM actually charge for a couple of channels in the Asian pack that are free on Freesat?

brooza 07-02-2011 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by startoucher (Post 35166025)
Serious hope we get the Premier Sports channel!!!!!!

This is the one that I'm waiting for. I've got a Sky box just for this channel and hoping not to have to use it (not really got anywhere to keep it so will have to set it up every weekend)

muppetman11 07-02-2011 18:08

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Interesting

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1297089184343A

Digital Fanatic 07-02-2011 18:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35169384)
Don't VM actually charge for a couple of channels in the Asian pack that are free on Freesat?

http://shop.virginmedia.com/digital-...els/asian.html

a couple of them, yeah but VM bundle them with the Premium Asian channels

12noon 07-02-2011 18:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35169456)

Hmmm, didn't Setanta Sports want Rugby League last time the TV rights were up for bidding, but Sky still bid more. It will be interesting what happens with ESPN in the bidding this time. I'm guessing Sky will win again, but it's nice to have the bidding war. It can only be good for Rugby League in the end.

Wire Man 07-02-2011 22:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35169456)

It would be great if espn got the rights for superleague
It would save me £29.50 a month and I would sleep much easier knowing I'm not paying so much towards footballers daft wages!

brooza 08-02-2011 01:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wire Man (Post 35169740)
It would be great if espn got the rights for superleague
It would save me £29.50 a month and I would sleep much easier knowing I'm not paying so much towards footballers daft wages!

You talk a surprising amount of sense for a wire fan! :p:

Felim_Doyle 08-02-2011 10:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35167940)
Apart from Milton Keynes and Westminster there is no more analogue tv on the Virgin Media network. everyone is on one Super Head-end too. ;)

I know whos complaining, but whos left out?

More channels are a coming too!

We still don't have a completely unified channel line-up yet which I find bizarre if it's all coming from a single super head-end. :confused: It's almost there though ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35168516)
=== Channels THAT still to appear in all areas ===
List was last updated on December 1st 2010.

NO. Channel Name
917. Radio: RTE Radio
920. Radio: WRN Europe

NOTE: Channels are only broadcasting in Ex-Telewest areas right now.

What possible technical or contractual reason could there be left for not having these two radio channels available in ex-NTL/C&W areas? :confused: It's not that I am desperate to have them, it's just that it implies there is still some distinction between the platforms that impacts roll-out of future services.

---------- Post added at 10:52 ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35168278)
And some news channels as all we got is bbc and sky.

I have all of these news channels:-

TV Guide > More > News ...

I'm not sure but TV5 may have news programming in French also.

Personally I find euronews very good as when there is one major news item, either at home (e.g. MP's expenses) or abroad (e.g. the current Egypt crisis), the mainstream UK news channels tend to devote their entire 15 minute slot to that one item before repeating it after the headlines, whereas euronews covers a much wider range of European and international news stories in it's bulletins.

Note: I'm on the XL TV package, your experience may differ!

devilincarnate 08-02-2011 11:06

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Good reading?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...om-movies.html

ahardie 08-02-2011 11:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35169893)

It's good to see something might be done about this. Perhaps they could now turn their attention to Sky's linear channel platform. It has all got to be good for the consumer.

Felim_Doyle 08-02-2011 12:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35168624)
5*, what a stupid name. If they change Five USA to anything other than Channel 5 USA the marketing team should be shot.

I don't know why they couldn't leave them all as "Five ...". The naming convention of "Channel" and number is antiquated and, whilst some stations in the US, Australia and elsewhere still bear the remnants of these marks, most are moving away from such simplistic monikers in this multi-channel, multi-media world in which we live.

I can even see a time when BBC One, Two, Three and Four will become BBC Prime, Entertainment, Alternative and Culture with a similar convention being adopted by ITV. Prime was and Entertainment is the name used for BBC broadcasts to Europe and the Middle East and these names make just as much sense for the domestic services too.

spiderplant 08-02-2011 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35169845)
What possible technical or contractual reason could there be left for not having these two radio channels available in ex-NTL/C&W areas? :confused: It's not that I am desperate to have them, it's just that it implies there is still some distinction between the platforms that impacts roll-out of future services.

It's not technical, so it must be due to existing contracts. There's no reason to think future services would be impacted by this.

Felim_Doyle 08-02-2011 12:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35169946)
It's not technical, so it must be due to existing contracts. There's no reason to think future services would be impacted by this.

It's good to know that it's not a technical issue and that it should not delay or complicate implementation of any future services but it's still weird that the contracts for these last two channels have not come up for renegotiation since the NGTV roll-out and consequential merger of platforms. Surely there are no Telewest-only contracts still in force this far on.

Media Boy UK 08-02-2011 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35169950)
It's good to know that it's not a technical issue and that it should not delay or complicate implementation of any future services but it's still weird that the contracts for these last two channels have not come up for renegotiation since the NGTV roll-out and consequential merger of platforms. Surely there are no Telewest-only contracts still in force this far on.

Telewest did sign long-time contracts with broadcasters all the time.

I think Virgin Media will drop RTE Radio and WRN Radio when deal is up for renegotiation.

I wish for Virgin Media to renegotiation with GMG Radio for Real Radio and Rock Radio to launch on Virgin TV.

alwaysabear 08-02-2011 13:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35169893)

Very interesting. The last week or so is showing that things are likely to change regarding broadcasting rights in the not to distant future.
I do hope that it will be to the benefit of the customer, though I doubt it.

LexDiamond 08-02-2011 13:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35169898)
It's good to see something might be done about this. Perhaps they could now turn their attention to Sky's linear channel platform. It has all got to be good for the consumer.

I doubt that would ever happen. Sky's linear platform has significant competition for programming with very few exclusives.

Media Boy UK 08-02-2011 16:51

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Media News:

BBC axe Cbeebies Radio on Radio 7.

The BBC is to remove all Cbeebies programmes from BBC Radio 7.

Also The BBC has given an go-head for BBC Radio 7 to be rebranded as BBC Radio 4 Extra.

BBC Radio 7 broadcasts on Virgin Channel 911.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ns-radio-shows

Sexism-gate pair joins TalkSport.

MediaGuardian.co.uk has reveal that former Sky Sports presenters Richard Keys and Andy Gray have been signed up by TalkSport.

TalkSport broadcasts on Virgin Channel 927.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...gray-talksport

gadge 08-02-2011 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35170153)
Media News:

BBC axe Cbeebies Radio on Radio 7.

The BBC is to remove all Cbeebies programmes from BBC Radio 7.

Also The BBC has given an go-head for BBC Radio 7 to be rebranded as BBC Radio 4 Extra.

BBC Radio 7 broadcasts on Virgin Channel 911.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ns-radio-shows

Sexism-gate pair joins TalkSport.

MediaGuardian.co.uk has reveal that former Sky Sports presenters Richard Keys and Andy Gray have been signed up by TalkSport.

TalkSport broadcasts on Virgin Channel 927.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...gray-talksport

I still think somewhere down the line andy gray and richard keys will end up on espn.

devilincarnate 08-02-2011 19:06

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ESPN in for Super League rights?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...ue-rights.html

muppetman11 08-02-2011 19:17

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I think the super league will make more games available and maybe have it on three broadcasters. Superleague games on Sky and ESPN and Challenge Cup on BBC.

gadge 08-02-2011 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35170252)

I can see espn giving sky sports a right clouting when fresh bidding for a majority of sports comes around.;)

devilincarnate 08-02-2011 19:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35170261)
I can see espn giving sky sports a right clouting when fresh bidding for a majority of sports comes around.;)

Could be a sign of things to come and if this is the start it will get pretty intresting:D:D:D

muppetman11 08-02-2011 19:31

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Bit off topic but an interesting read on the competition , ok so there third in the race but you know what I mean

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/3623...-bt-vision-app

gadge 08-02-2011 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35170262)
Could be a sign of things to come and if this is the start it will get pretty intresting:D:D:D

As i see it espn have deep never ending pockets.:D

devilincarnate 08-02-2011 19:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35170266)
As i see it espn have deep never ending pockets.:D

Too true:D I think that with all that is going on the Competition commission, The EU in to sports and the phone tapping i think that i could be the best time for espn to do this ( to put the final nails in the coffin:erm: )

Media Boy UK 08-02-2011 20:34

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Has everyone forgot?

Spoiler: 
Virgin Media is FOUR years old today.

Digital Fanatic 08-02-2011 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35170306)
Has everyone forgot?

Spoiler: 
Virgin Media is FOUR years old today.

The party hasn't stopped here at VM :)

devilincarnate 08-02-2011 20:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35170306)
Has everyone forgot?

Spoiler: 
Virgin Media is FOUR years old today.

:birthday::birthday::birthday:

sakiblateef 08-02-2011 20:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35169167)
An insider confrim to me that the Asian channels on Virgin Media is being ''look at again''.

But I was not given any channel names.

Improvements to the Asian offering on the VM platform is way overdue, I'm glad VM are looking into it at last.

Felim_Doyle 09-02-2011 14:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35170306)
Has everyone forgot?

Spoiler: 
Virgin Media is FOUR years old today.

Happy Birthday!!!
:birthday: :birthday: :birthday: :birthday:
:hyper: :beer:

Jameseh 09-02-2011 16:13

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/02/99.png

New logos for '5' channels.

FIVE becomes Channel 5 on 14th February.
FIVE USA becomes 5 USA and FIVER becomes 5* on 7th March.

brooza 09-02-2011 16:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35170819)
FIVER becomes F* on 7th March.

5*, I assume you meant :)

Jameseh 09-02-2011 16:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brooza (Post 35170840)
5*, I assume you meant :)

Fixed thanks. I was too used to the "not a brand" FIVE.

12noon 09-02-2011 19:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35170819)
FIVER becomes 5* on 7th March.

Oh no not 5 Star again. I thought that Jackson's rip-off pop group had gone for good.
:D

OLD BOY 09-02-2011 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35169898)
It's good to see something might be done about this. Perhaps they could now turn their attention to Sky's linear channel platform. It has all got to be good for the consumer.

I agree. As I've said before, if Sky want exclusive rights to programmes on its TV channels, it should be prepared to make those channels available at a wholesale price to other platforms. If they are abusing their privileged position, they should not be allowed to get exclusive rights.

---------- Post added at 20:53 ---------- Previous post was at 20:47 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35170266)
As i see it espn have deep never ending pockets.:D

I wonder how deep? Do you think they will give Sky a run for their money with the Premier Football contracts next time around?

howardmicks 09-02-2011 22:42

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I am not a big sky fan,But sky are willing to invest in programs for there channels it is only natural they want to recover some of there cost not only from there own subscribers but from selling there channels to other tv providers.Vm decided to pull out of the channels and program market by selling there channels so what do they expect,If there not willing to invest in programs why should they expect to get them from sky for next to nothing.They should have thought about all this before they sold the channels especially to sky.

Digital Fanatic 10-02-2011 00:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35171125)
I am not a big sky fan,But sky are willing to invest in programs for there channels it is only natural they want to recover some of there cost not only from there own subscribers but from selling there channels to other tv providers.Vm decided to pull out of the channels and program market by selling there channels so what do they expect,If there not willing to invest in programs why should they expect to get them from sky for next to nothing.They should have thought about all this before they sold the channels especially to sky.

but we don't know how much Sky are asking. Much better that VM get it at the fair price, afterall it's a niche channel as I've said all along and the viewing figures are embarrassing for Sky.

VM did the right thing ;)

alwaysabear 10-02-2011 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35171170)
but we don't know how much Sky are asking. Much better that VM get it at the fair price, afterall it's a niche channel as I've said all along and the viewing figures are embarrassing for Sky.

VM did the right thing ;)

I agree apart from a few new series the rest of the stuff on Sky Atlantic is just old programming used as filling. It would have been nice to see some of these new series, but what you have not seen you cannot miss.

mersey70 10-02-2011 11:10

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[QUOTE=Digital Fanatic;35171170]but we don't know how much Sky are asking. Much better that VM get it at the fair price, afterall it's a niche channel as I've said all along and the viewing figures are embarrassing for Sky.

VM did the right thing ;)[/QUOTE

In your opinion.

I still cannot see any viewing figures for Sky Atlantic on the Barb website although I too fully expect them to be low when they appear.

But do Sky launch these channels to obtain massive audiences? Reading Jeremy Darroch's comments they seem to do it to differentiate themselves from their competition and it seems to work. Nevertheless it's available in 10m homes. It's part of a wider package of PAY channels. Sky's ad income makes up only about 6% of their total income. However their targetted audience for Atlantic is not that of say Sky Living or Sky 1, they are aiming at a far higher demographic and advertisers will pay accordingly even for relatively low audiences. That's why UKTV's Good Food is so successful, the audience are a far higher demographic than say ITV1, Nigella followers if you like, the sort who shop at Waitrose rather than Tesco! Not huge but lucrative all the same.

Sky know full well if they show a list of channels and point out they have Channel X and competitor Y dosen't most Joe Bloggs subscribers will go with them. It's human nature.

Take a look at their latest subscriber numbers, they simply do not lie. All Sky care about is how many people subscribe to a particular PACK. Have you seen Sky Arts ratings?, very low but Sky know that's another group of customers they can hook into a PACK of channels, do the ratings really justify 2 HD versions? Sky clearly think so. Why do the operate Sky News which loses money hand over fist? Maybe because it's part of the overall package.

But that's all just my opinion.

howardmicks 10-02-2011 12:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35171170)
but we don't know how much Sky are asking. Much better that VM get it at the fair price, afterall it's a niche channel as I've said all along and the viewing figures are embarrassing for Sky.

VM did the right thing ;)

Yer right matey

Digital Fanatic 10-02-2011 12:38

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[QUOTE=mersey70;35171288]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35171170)
but we don't know how much Sky are asking. Much better that VM get it at the fair price, afterall it's a niche channel as I've said all along and the viewing figures are embarrassing for Sky.

VM did the right thing ;)[/QUOTE

In your opinion.

I still cannot see any viewing figures for Sky Atlantic on the Barb website although I too fully expect them to be low when they appear.

But do Sky launch these channels to obtain massive audiences? Reading Jeremy Darroch's comments they seem to do it to differentiate themselves from their competition and it seems to work. Nevertheless it's available in 10m homes. It's part of a wider package of PAY channels. Sky's ad income makes up only about 6% of their total income. However their targetted audience for Atlantic is not that of say Sky Living or Sky 1, they are aiming at a far higher demographic and advertisers will pay accordingly even for relatively low audiences. That's why UKTV's Good Food is so successful, the audience are a far higher demographic than say ITV1, Nigella followers if you like, the sort who shop at Waitrose rather than Tesco! Not huge but lucrative all the same.

Sky know full well if they show a list of channels and point out they have Channel X and competitor Y dosen't most Joe Bloggs subscribers will go with them. It's human nature.

Take a look at their latest subscriber numbers, they simply do not lie. All Sky care about is how many people subscribe to a particular PACK. Have you seen Sky Arts ratings?, very low but Sky know that's another group of customers they can hook into a PACK of channels, do the ratings really justify 2 HD versions? Sky clearly think so. Why do the operate Sky News which loses money hand over fist? Maybe because it's part of the overall package.

But that's all just my opinion.

*cough, cough*
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...tic-tv-ratings

Sky have made a lot of noise over Sky Atlantic and by the looks of it, it has so far failed to become the hugely popular channel they made it out to be. Sky News are even in trouble for over promoting the channel and Ofcom are investigating them.

Sky News has always been marketed by Sky as a loss leader (that's why it's on Freeview) and it acts as a barker for Sky programming with adverts for their channels non stop. It's there to promote Sky.

The same as Sky Arts, it took over The Arts Channel when it went bust and runs Sky Arts and HD equivalents at a loss to show Sky has "upmarket" channels.

p.s. I don't post other peoples opinions, I have my own ;)

mersey70 10-02-2011 12:59

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[QUOTE=Digital Fanatic;35171351]
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35171288)

*cough, cough*
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...tic-tv-ratings

Sky have made a lot of noise over Sky Atlantic and by the looks of it, it has so far failed to become the hugely popular channel they made it out to be. Sky News are even in trouble for over promoting the channel and Ofcom are investigating them.

Sky News has always been marketed by Sky as a loss leader (that's why it's on Freeview) and it acts as a barker for Sky programming with adverts for their channels non stop. It's there to promote Sky.

The same as Sky Arts, it took over The Arts Channel when it went bust and runs Sky Arts and HD equivalents at a loss to show Sky has "upmarket" channels.

p.s. I don't post other peoples opinions, I have my own ;)

For the record Sky never took over The Arts Channel, they took over Artsworld.

438,000 viewers dosen't seem too bad to me but I accept that's only one show, the other figures (if true) were low, I agree. But I have no axe to grind.

Maybe the figures will pick up in the 10million homes who have access to it, particularly when the tranche of brand new shows start.

The Guardian!, cough cough. A touch on the biased side but you'll appreciate that.

And regarding having your own opinion, I suspect that isn't quite 100% true but understandable all the same.

Digital Fanatic 10-02-2011 13:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35171360)
For the record Sky never took over The Arts Channel, they took over Artsworld.

438,000 viewers dosen't seem too bad to me but I accept that's only one show, the other figures (if true) were low, I agree. But I have no axe to grind.

Maybe the figures will pick up in the 10million homes who have access to it, particularly when the tranche of brand new shows start.

The Guardian!, cough cough. A touch on the biased side but you'll appreciate that.

And regarding having your own opinion, I suspect that isn't quite true but understandable all the same.

What's that supposed to mean?

mersey70 10-02-2011 13:14

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[QUOTE=Digital Fanatic;35171363]
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35171360)

What's that supposed to mean?

You work for Virgin Media, your posts are valued and interesting but rarely if ever have I seen you criticise Virgin.

It's totally understandable but I cannot accept you always give an honest personal public critique of VM, but freely seem to do so with Sky though.

Let's wait for the next set of subscriber figures on both sides, they are the best indicator. They are all that matter in pay TV anyway.

In my opinion.

Digital Fanatic 10-02-2011 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35171369)
You work for Virgin Media, your posts are valued and interesting but rarely if ever have I seen you criticise Virgin.

It's totally understandable but I cannot accept you always give an honest personal public critique of VM, but freely seem to do so with Sky though.

Let's wait for the next set of subscriber figures on both sides, they are the best indicator. They are all that matter in pay TV anyway.

In my opinion.

it's still my opinion

gadge 10-02-2011 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35171062)
I agree. As I've said before, if Sky want exclusive rights to programmes on its TV channels, it should be prepared to make those channels available at a wholesale price to other platforms. If they are abusing their privileged position, they should not be allowed to get exclusive rights.

---------- Post added at 20:53 ---------- Previous post was at 20:47 ----------

I wonder how deep? Do you think they will give Sky a run for their money with the Premier Football contracts next time around?

Yes i do think they will give sky a run for their money espn are bigger than sky will ever be.

mersey70 10-02-2011 14:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35171400)
Yes i do think they will give sky a run for their money espn are bigger than sky will ever be.

I hope ESPN do too but i'd rather one or the other get the maximum 5 packages.

But even if they say got 3 packages I reckon it would have to be offered as a stand alone sub like on Sky.

Or XL would be considerably more expensive.

telegramsam 10-02-2011 14:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35169187)
Why? If they can make a profit from selling on these channels to the Asian community then good luck to them. And if the asian community is willing to pay for them then why shouldn't they have them?

Why? Because there`s enough foreign channels on virgin already and as far as I`m concerned they`re takeing up space that other channels could occupy. Too many shopping channels and radio stations also.

mersey70 10-02-2011 14:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35171426)
Why? Because there`s enough foreign channels on virgin already and as far as I`m concerned they`re takeing up space that other channels could occupy. Too many shopping channels and radio stations also.

If what we are told is true capacity is no longer an issue on cable.

If there are channels missing that you would like I suspect it has little to do with 12 International and 8 Shopping channels and a selection of radio stations taking up space.

Ask VM why they are not available.

Big-Ted 10-02-2011 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35171426)
Why? Because there`s enough foreign channels on virgin already and as far as I`m concerned they`re takeing up space that other channels could occupy. Too many shopping channels and radio stations also.

Wel I and many others don't watch Sky Sports or Movie channels. So I demand they get rid of those as well......as we already have eurosport espn etc plus several movie channels :p:

telegramsam 10-02-2011 15:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big-Ted (Post 35171430)
Wel I and many others don't watch Sky Sports or Movie channels. So I demand they get rid of those as well......as we already have eurosport espn etc plus several movie channels :p:

You only get sky sports and sky movies if you subscribe to them, were as we all get them awful shopping channels and radio whether you want them or not. But I take your point.

Hiroki 10-02-2011 15:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35171369)
You work for Virgin Media, your posts are valued and interesting but rarely if ever have I seen you criticise Virgin.
It's totally understandable but I cannot accept you always give an honest personal public critique of VM, but freely seem to do so with Sky though.

Let's wait for the next set of subscriber figures on both sides, they are the best indicator. They are all that matter in pay TV anyway.

In my opinion.

I've noticed that but then I always thought that the Virgin "staff" members that you see on forums like this are paid by the company to post which is why they never deviate from the company line.

Probably over-thinking it haha :D

brooza 10-02-2011 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35171448)
You only get sky sports and sky movies if you subscribe to them, were as we all get them awful shopping channels and radio whether you want them or not. But I take your point.

They still take up the space though

toady 10-02-2011 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brooza (Post 35171486)
They still take up the space though

But as others say its not a space problem, VM can't get the channels for a decent price or the broadcaster doesn't want to be on VM

Don't the shopping channels pay to be on VM, if so they are discounting the rest of the channels you have

Digital Fanatic 10-02-2011 16:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35171482)
I've noticed that but then I always thought that the Virgin "staff" members that you see on forums like this are paid by the company to post which is why they never deviate from the company line.

Probably over-thinking it haha :D

Comments like this are only going to push staff away from the forum. we give our time free to help others.

We are not paid to post, hence our disclaimers in our sigs. I'd be a rich man if I got paid for all the help I've given on this forum.

Seems to count for nothing though. Seriously considering leaving this forum and I mean it.

gregpegg 10-02-2011 16:22

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Digital Fanatic - Don't leave the forum. Your opinions , as far as I am concerned, are welcome and valued. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, sometimes I think others forget this when they do not agree with a particular set of comments.

ahardie 10-02-2011 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gregpegg (Post 35171549)
Digital Fanatic - Don't leave the forum. Your opinions , as far as I am concerned, are welcome and valued. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, sometimes I think others forget this when they do not agree with a particular set of comments.

Agreed. We all know who are the staff members here. Why some people find it neccessary to jump to Sky's defence all the time even when they are shafting us and witholding exclusive content from us is what I find strange.

Peter_ 10-02-2011 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35171482)
I've noticed that but then I always thought that the Virgin "staff" members that you see on forums like this are paid by the company to post which is why they never deviate from the company line.

I am certainly not paid to promote the company line on this or any other forum.

I will post if you are posting about something illegal or against the Terms and Conditions that you signed up for, which in the main is unlikely to stop anyone.

We try to offer you good sound advice about the products Virginmedia supply but we cannot provide anyone on here with business sensitive information as we would probably lose our jobs and most of the information we provide can be found in the public domain.

On many occasions I have posted that if you want to get your TV services from SKY then go ahead as you can still get your broadband from Virginmedia which in the majority of enabled areas outclasses SKY's broadband offering.

We post on here as forum members that have been confirmed as being Virginmedia staff by the forum team, but we post in our own right as most of us have disclaimers in our signature.

So before posting any comments such as the one above please think about it first or even PM a member of the moderating team for advice before hand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35171558)
Agreed. We all know who are the staff members here. Why some people find it neccessary to jump to Sky's defence all the time even when they are shafting us and witholding exclusive content from us is what I find strange.

Read the above.

BenJSmyth 10-02-2011 16:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35171519)
Comments like this are only going to push staff away from the forum. we give our time free to help others.

We are not paid to post, hence our disclaimers in our sigs. I'd be a rich man if I got paid for all the help I've given on this forum.

Seems to count for nothing though. Seriously considering leaving this forum and I mean it.

Don't go! I know I've only been here for a couple of weeks but your posts are always insightful and most definitely helpful.

Mobes 10-02-2011 16:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35171519)
Comments like this are only going to push staff away from the forum. we give our time free to help others.

We are not paid to post, hence our disclaimers in our sigs. I'd be a rich man if I got paid for all the help I've given on this forum.

Seems to count for nothing though. Seriously considering leaving this forum and I mean it.

This forum and thread would be NOTHING without people like MEDIA BOY and DIGITAL FANATIC. They are the people who give us enormous help and inside information. We have already lost BIG RED because of idiots.

Certain people should back off and stop turning discussions into personal vendettas and arguments.

I would hope the MODS step in here and sort things out.

DIGITAL FANATIC has my support and i would MUCH rather he stayed and others went!

devilincarnate 10-02-2011 16:32

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Hey DF what they could be saying that for is due to your avatar LOL they may think that you are getting paid for advertising subliminally. All I have to say is that all the staff who give up their own to post on her are appreciated by nearly all the forum members ( except a few ).

BenJSmyth 10-02-2011 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35171564)
This forum and thread would be NOTHING without people like MEDIA BOY and DIGITAL FANATIC. They are the people who give us enormous help and inside information. We have already lost BIG RED because of idiots.

Certain people should back off and stop turning discussions into personal vendettas and arguments.

I would hope the MODS step in here and sort things out.

DIGITAL FANATIC has my support and i would MUCH rather he stayed and others went!

Here here!!

Wait, was that my phone I just heard ring...? No, dammit :mad: :D

Jameseh 10-02-2011 16:39

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If they didn't 'deviate from the company line', then this thread would be aimless and everyone would be knowledge-less on most advancements of Virgin TV and more.

If DF goes then this forum will lose many members because the highlight of the forum is knowledge of things before everyone else, without that, its just a support and arguing forum.

Strangerstill 10-02-2011 16:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35171564)
This forum and thread would be NOTHING without people like MEDIA BOY and DIGITAL FANATIC. They are the people who give us enormous help and inside information. We have already lost BIG RED because of idiots.

Certain people should back off and stop turning discussions into personal vendettas and arguments.

I would hope the MODS step in here and sort things out.

DIGITAL FANATIC has my support and i would MUCH rather he stayed and others went!

+1

pauldavies83 10-02-2011 16:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35171560)
I am certainly not paid to promote the company line on this or any other forum.

But surely if you start slagging of the company in public on this or any other forum, the company won't be too happy about it?

Whether you have anything negative to say or not, surely any negatives are subject to some sort of gagging pressure? Which at times can lead to a one-sided debate (i.e. Sky vs VM), if you choose to get involved.

I think the key here is to remember that VM staff are VM staff - even if they do have something negative to say (and I'm not suggesting that they do), I wouldn't expect them to post it on here. Maybe this needs to be remembered in the wider context of a debate sometimes.

jtaylor06 10-02-2011 16:44

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I appreciate all the help that staff have given on here.
You don't see many staff from companies, helping customers in their own time!

If I were of legal age, I would buy you all a drink on behalf of me!
Keep up the work :)

Digital Fanatic 10-02-2011 16:45

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Thanks guys. :blush: I just had to vent a little. :o:

I like my avatar, though :erm:

pauldavies83 10-02-2011 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35171519)
Comments like this are only going to push staff away from the forum. we give our time free to help others.

We are not paid to post, hence our disclaimers in our sigs. I'd be a rich man if I got paid for all the help I've given on this forum.

Seems to count for nothing though. Seriously considering leaving this forum and I mean it.

People are grateful for your input (myself included), but then sometimes people do want to have an open discussion, and maybe your hands are tied from having that (whether you would want to or not)

mattboothers 10-02-2011 16:46

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WOW - Came on here just now noticing a few pages ahead of where I last was. I was hoping it was something new.

But yet again just constant moaning. I mean look back at the past 85 pages in this thread I bet you can pick out on one hand whats launched if anything.

And Digital Fanatic, You shouldnt go, Just ignore the moaners and move on!

Digital Fanatic 10-02-2011 16:47

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Let's get back on topic before we all get told off :D

Peter_ 10-02-2011 16:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldavies83 (Post 35171591)
But surely if you start slagging of the company in public on this or any other forum, the company won't be too happy about it?

As I state I am Virginmedia staff then it would be quite stupid of me to slag off the company I work for as I said in my previous post in this thread.

Also if I slagged of the company I think the moderators would soon let me know about it.

muppetman11 10-02-2011 16:50

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Naughty Sky again

http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasti...tic-probe.html

devilincarnate 10-02-2011 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35171597)
Thanks guys. :blush: I just had to vent a little. :o:

I like my avatar, though :erm:

Yes I know, but you know the way some people are LOL Keep up the good work all you VM staff.

mersey70 10-02-2011 18:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35171482)
I've noticed that but then I always thought that the Virgin "staff" members that you see on forums like this are paid by the company to post which is why they never deviate from the company line.

Probably over-thinking it haha :D

I have never thought that at all personally and wouldn't wish to associate myself with thoughts like that.

I would like to see more balance that's all but it is a cable forum after all and i'm sure satellite forums could be equally skewed in opinion.

I always think it's better to sell the great things about your own company, of which there are many, rather than provide endless negative information regarding competitors. It seems a bit desperate if i'm honest particularly if the subject refers to a service VM customers don't get.

Peter_ 10-02-2011 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35171707)
I have never thought that at all personally and wouldn't wish to associate myself with thoughts like that.

I would like to see more balance that's all but it is a cable forum after all and i'm sure satellite forums could be equally skewed in opinion.

I always think it's better to sell the great things about your own company, of which there are many, rather than provide endless negative information regarding competitors. It seems a bit desperate if i'm honest.

As I said about myself that is something i do not do, I even say if you want your TV from one and your broadband from the other then go ahead as both parties get a slice of the cake.:)

mersey70 10-02-2011 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35171710)
As I said about myself that is something i do not do, I even say if you want your TV from one and your broadband from the other then go ahead as both parties get a slice of the cake.:)

I can honestly say I have never seen you do so Masque, I disagree with a lot of what you do say but the point in question I totally agree with you.

Anyway what I want to know as a VM customer is what are we getting and when, let's concentrate on that.

I'm looking for more channels and sooner rather than later starting with the channels already promised months and months ago, not channels like Atlantic that were never promised in the first place.

Talking about Sky (and I'm as guilty as anyone) is a waste of time as we are not their customers.

Peter_ 10-02-2011 18:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35171717)
I can honestly say I have never seen you do so Masque, I disagree with a lot of what you do say but the point in question I totally agree with you.

Anyway what I want to know as a VM customer is what are we getting and when, let's concentrate on that.

I'm looking for more channels and sooner rather than later starting with the channels already promised, not channels like Atlantic that were never promised in the fisrt place.

I do faults so do not see that much in the way of new stuff and what we may see is usually business sensitive so not for you the public, most of what we post is freely available if you care to look for it.

You disagree with things I have said, thats terrible.:D

mersey70 10-02-2011 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35171719)
I do faults so do not see that much in the way of new stuff and what we may see is usually business sensitive so not for you the public, most of what we post is freely available if you care to look for it.

You disagree with things I have said, thats terrible.:D

You might be surprised to learn this but I believe there are one or two people who have the audacity to disagree with me too ;)

devilincarnate 10-02-2011 18:53

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Hey i know that it is coming up to Spring and in all the hunting magazines that i have been reading it all says that "baiting or hunting VM Staff members is now banned and is now punishable with death":D:D:D

So can we all get along as we all want the same thing and if it does not go our way we seem to lash out at the staff.

Can we all just get a grip as they are here to help us on their own time.

muppetman11 10-02-2011 19:06

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Can anyone confirm if Sky content will be going on VOD ?

kgollop 10-02-2011 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35171278)
I agree apart from a few new series the rest of the stuff on Sky Atlantic is just old programming used as filling. It would have been nice to see some of these new series, but what you have not seen you cannot miss.

You could say that for pretty much every channel and also On Demand to be fair. I tend to have a few shows series linked from a variety of channels and certainly don't sit watching the same channel all the time. To that end Atlantic still has some decent looking new series. My wife is American too so she's not too please to be missing out on this channel either :D

mersey70 10-02-2011 19:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35171760)
Can anyone confirm if Sky content will be going on VOD ?

They said a long while back that Sky VOD content will be made available on VM but I don't think it has been confirmed when or indeed what actual content will be made available but i'm happy to be corrected on that.

devilincarnate 10-02-2011 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35171767)
They said a long while back that Sky VOD content will be made available on VM but I don't think it has been confirmed when or indeed what actual content will be made available but i'm happy to be corrected on that.

I think that it may turn up the same time as the Red Button and if you do not know when that is just look round this forum for another post which says something similar to:

When God calls his son for a sunbeam.

JUST A GUESS:confused::confused::confused::confused:

sakiblateef 10-02-2011 21:11

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VM to rebrand Asian pack.

http://media247.co.uk/bizasia/newsar...media_to_1.php

Hiroki 10-02-2011 21:53

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Meah I didn't say I didn't appreciate the staff members help at all.

Still stand beside my opinion/thought

savvychels 10-02-2011 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35171519)
Comments like this are only going to push staff away from the forum. we give our time free to help others.

We are not paid to post, hence our disclaimers in our sigs. I'd be a rich man if I got paid for all the help I've given on this forum.

Seems to count for nothing though. Seriously considering leaving this forum and I mean it.

Please don't let a few trolls drive you away. I think the majority of people know that none of you gets paid for helping out on here. Your opinions are your own, and if they fall down on the side of your employer it's not down to being paid, but down to believing in the company that you work for (or else you'd not work for them).

I don't work for VM, but find myself often echoing or repeating many of the points made by VM staff because my opinion is the same. If I hated VM so much I'd leave. Yes, sometimes the way they go about things frustrates me, but I'd bet many times it frustrates staff even more because their hands are tied.

Ignore the ones having a pop, and know that far more people appreciate the efforts that VM staff on here go to to be instructive and helpful.

:)

Peter_ 10-02-2011 22:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35171907)
Meah I didn't say I didn't appreciate the staff members help at all.

Still stand beside my opinion/thought

So you still think that we are paid to post on here by our employer, I find that very sad and even narrow minded.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/11/13.gif

The only forum we would be paid to post on would be the community forum of which I am not even a member, and that would only be in works time not my own time.

Paul 10-02-2011 22:22

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Right or wrong, people are entitled to their opinions, so lets move on shall we.

Digital Fanatic 11-02-2011 00:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35171760)
Can anyone confirm if Sky content will be going on VOD ?

Yes, we will be getting Sky content on VoD soon :)

mattboothers 11-02-2011 01:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35172007)
Yes, we will be getting Sky content on VoD soon :)

I presume thats why there will be two on demands.

One for L pack that wont have Sky OD

One for XL pack that will have Sky OD.

Chad 11-02-2011 01:49

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Does anyone know what kind of SKY VOD we'll be getting? Will it just be content from SKY1, SKY2, SKY3, SKY News, SKY Arts, SKY Living etc or will people who subscribe to SKY Movies and SKY Sports also get access to films and football highlights etc on demand?

Digital Fanatic 11-02-2011 10:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35172023)
Does anyone know what kind of SKY VOD we'll be getting? Will it just be content from SKY1, SKY2, SKY3, SKY News, SKY Arts, SKY Living etc or will people who subscribe to SKY Movies and SKY Sports also get access to films and football highlights etc on demand?

I think it's just the regular channels, but I could be wrong.

devilincarnate 11-02-2011 11:01

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ESPN Classic on demand launching on the 14th Feb. Can not post link as posting off of mobile.

alwaysabear 11-02-2011 11:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35172155)
ESPN Classic on demand launching on the 14th Feb. Can not post link as posting off of mobile.

Good news.:D
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....994&highlight=


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