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The Yank 30-01-2011 12:39
Re: TiVo
 
will TIVO have a internet browser app installed or one even available to download? If it does I should be able to watch my US based Slingbox on my TV.

WooLLsterQ 30-01-2011 13:25
Re: TiVo
 
At present there is a Ebay, Youtube and Celebrity news Application which work in the same way as apple and android apps. The facebook and twitter apps are currently still being worked on. Not heard or see anything about a browser.

daveoc 30-01-2011 13:38
Quote:
Originally Posted by WooLLsterQ (Post 35161868)
At present there is a Ebay, Youtube and Celebrity news Application which work in the same way as apple and android apps. The facebook and twitter apps are currently still being worked on. Not heard or see anything about a browser.
With Youtube on the Tivo will it be possible to watch anything and everything that they have?.

I ask because they now have a number of full length films---nothing modern, mostly old public domain films but these are ones that I like.

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 13:43
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveoc (Post 35161875)
With Youtube on the Tivo will it be possible to watch anything and everything that they have?.

I ask because they now have a number of full length films---nothing modern, mostly old public domain films but these are ones that I like.
Depends on the content, some content owners don't allow their content to be played on YouTube via TV-connected devices (like my WDTV Live and Samsung C650 TV).

jb66 30-01-2011 13:47
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yank (Post 35161823)
will TIVO have a internet browser app installed or one even available to download? If it does I should be able to watch my US based Slingbox on my TV.
Doubt it, the tivo is an a "walled garden state" and can only access specific websites virgin allow

muppetman11 30-01-2011 14:41
Re: TiVo
 
just been watching a whole load of stuff on the Us TIVO Premiere and it seems to me that Virgin need to get a lot of partnerships in place to enhance the TIVO experience even more. My main worry is now that Amazon have bought lovefilm we will not see this added to the service as in the US Amazon offers movie on demand which would be in direct competition to Filmflex .

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 14:45
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35161902)
just been watching a whole load of stuff on the Us TIVO Premiere and it seems to me that Virgin need to get a lot of partnerships in place to enhance the TIVO experience even more. My main worry is now that Amazon have bought lovefilm we will not see this added to the service as in the US Amazon offers movie on demand which would be in direct competition to Filmflex .
VM have already expressed an interest in having Lovefilm on TiVo, I don't see why the Amazon takeover would change that.

Quote:
It would have to be the right deal commercially and add value. If Lovefilm came along and said ‘we’ve got something that adds to this’, we’d be the first ones to embrace them - we’re not precious about that. Let a thousand flowers bloom! It’s a managed environment but we’re really open in terms of who we host on the platform - as long as the commercials are right and customers are interested in it.

Stephen 30-01-2011 14:51
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yank (Post 35161823)
will TIVO have a internet browser app installed or one even available to download? If it does I should be able to watch my US based Slingbox on my TV.
No it will not have a browser.

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 15:13
Re: TiVo
 
Tivo Question #49343421:

Is the TiVo upscaler as good as the one in the V+ boxes? Or better?

jb66 30-01-2011 15:49
Re: TiVo
 
IMO no

muppetman11 30-01-2011 16:04
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35161903)
VM have already expressed an interest in having Lovefilm on TiVo, I don't see why the Amazon takeover would change that.
Hope it happens it would be cool to be able to search movies on linear TV , Filmflex and Lovefilm as I would imagine now Amazon own it they would have many more blockbusters available to stream ( Lovefilms stream offerings aren't great currently)

Also there prices are good in the US

http://www.amazon.com/Inception/dp/B...6399816&sr=1-4

http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/ontv

Digital Fanatic 30-01-2011 16:06
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35161941)
Hope it happens it would be cool to be able to search movies on linear TV , Filmflex and Lovefilm as I would imagine now Amazon own it they would have many more blockbusters available to stream ( Lovefilms stream offerings aren't great currently)
Cindy Rose has said VM are talking to "everyone" in regards to Apps for TiVo, so expect some more goodies.

muppetman11 30-01-2011 16:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35161943)
Cindy Rose has said VM are talking to "everyone" in regards to Apps for TiVo, so expect some more goodies.
Agreed but wasn't sure whether Amazon offering on demand movies like in the US may have an impact on Filmflex , I hope it happens as you can see Amazon having more choice and lower prices than film flex. Thinking about it though lovefilm joined the ps3 and playstation sell and rent movies.

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 16:49
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35161946)
Agreed but wasn't sure whether Amazon offering on demand movies like in the US may have an impact on Filmflex , I hope it happens as you can see Amazon having more choice and lower prices than film flex. Thinking about it though lovefilm joined the ps3 and playstation sell and rent movies.
As far as VM are concerned, Filmflex would still be the primary film rental service on TiVo. But there's room for Lovefilm and other IPTV film apps via TiVo.

With the backing of Amazon, I can see Lovefilm getting on loads of boxes, its already on Samsung & Sony TVs and Blu Ray players and I'm sure there will be a YouView app as well at some point.

Besides, at the moment there's no HD streaming option from Lovefilm so for On-Demand HD movies, Flimflex is the only option on VM, for now. Plus you already need to subscribe to Lovefilm before streaming their content anyway (and they currently have no Universal titles to rent), so the impact on Flimflex won't be that great.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35161935)
IMO no
:erm:

Should it be like.....better than what we have now?

Lew 30-01-2011 16:49
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35161943)
Cindy Rose has said VM are talking to "everyone" in regards to Apps for TiVo, so expect some more goodies.
ESPN Player and MLB.tv would be nice, but I can't see it happening.

zantarous 30-01-2011 17:43
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With Amazon rumoured to want to buy Netflix in the the US I can see them wanting to become the biggest player in the video streaming world and I can see their takeover of Lovefilm being a step closer to doing a deal with Virgin. For them that would be a quick and easy way to get access to 3+ million subscribers.

muppetman11 30-01-2011 18:04
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35162023)
With Amazon rumoured to want to buy Netflix in the the US I can see them wanting to become the biggest player in the video streaming world and I can see their takeover of Lovefilm being a step closer to doing a deal with Virgin. For them that would be a quick and easy way to get access to 3+ million subscribers.
There aren't 3 million with TIVO though.

zantarous 30-01-2011 18:09
Re: TiVo
 
No but they could offer a streaming service and a VOD service and use the opportunity to advertise to customers.

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 18:09
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35162023)
With Amazon rumoured to want to buy Netflix in the the US I can see them wanting to become the biggest player in the video streaming world and I can see their takeover of Lovefilm being a step closer to doing a deal with Virgin. For them that would be a quick and easy way to get access to 3+ million subscribers.
Over time, yes, when everyone gets upgraded to TiVo by Virgin over the next 3 years or so.

As for Netflix, they (along with Hulu?) will have to contend with the maze of broadcasting rights over here, Netflix can't just show imports like say, NCIS, days in the UK days after being shown in the States due to existing broadcast contracts with FX/Five.

Peter_ 30-01-2011 18:36
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35162035)
Over time, yes, when everyone gets upgraded to TiVo by Virgin over the next 3 years or so.
Doubtful as even now we have 10 year old boxes on the system so the will always be a lower tier of television service.

Digital Fanatic 30-01-2011 18:38
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35162052)
Doubtful as even now we have 10 year old boxes on the system so the will always be a lower tier of television service.
Cindy Rose has a plan :)

A TiVo plan ;)

OLDGOLD 30-01-2011 18:40
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35161984)
ESPN Player and MLB.tv would be nice, but I can't see it happening.
I agree with that! :tu:

Peter_ 30-01-2011 18:40
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35162055)
Cindy Rose has a plan :)

A TiVo plan ;)
A very costly plan then and I expect once the sums are done a shelved plan.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/21.gif

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 18:40
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35162052)
Doubtful as even now we have 10 year old boxes on the system so the will always be a lower tier of television service.
I can't see VM having 2 TV firmware systems in the long run, would be a nightmare for CS to deal with I imagine.

When one of the old boxes breaks down, wouldn't VM swap them with the V HD (TiVO compatible) boxes as time goes by?

Peter_ 30-01-2011 18:42
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35162059)
I can't see VM having 2 TV firmware systems in the long run, would be a nightmare for CS to deal with I imagine.

When one of the old boxes breaks down, wouldn't VM swap them with the V HD (TiVO compatible) boxes as time goes by?
I think the cost may be an issue but in practice a great idea.

gadge 30-01-2011 18:52
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35161941)
Hope it happens it would be cool to be able to search movies on linear TV , Filmflex and Lovefilm as I would imagine now Amazon own it they would have many more blockbusters available to stream ( Lovefilms stream offerings aren't great currently)

Also there prices are good in the US

http://www.amazon.com/Inception/dp/B...6399816&sr=1-4

http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/ontv
I would imagine if lovefilm came to tivo you would also need a lovefilm account as we do to allow us too play films from lovefilm through our blu ray player.

jtaylor06 30-01-2011 19:00
Re: TiVo
 
Just had a look through all the Tivo guides and the quick start.
Virgin have added a new 'Messages' portal for customers to keep up to date on the happenings with the TV service. That's great in my opinion!

It would be beneficial to get it on the current system as it would be of great help to customers to keep track, especially with all the channel close-downs, and movement of shows that is currently happening.

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 19:07
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35162069)
Just had a look through all the Tivo guides and the quick start.
Virgin have added a new 'Messages' portal for customers to keep up to date on the happenings with the TV service. That's great in my opinion!
I think Digital Fanatic and Media Boy should be given 'create new message' permissions for that portal. ;)

whizzard 30-01-2011 19:13
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35162069)
Just had a look through all the Tivo guides and the quick start.
Virgin have added a new 'Messages' portal for customers to keep up to date on the happenings with the TV service. That's great in my opinion!

It would be beneficial to get it on the current system as it would be of great help to customers to keep track, especially with all the channel close-downs, and movement of shows that is currently happening.
That is pretty much the plan, its also for notifications from such things as Remote Record and well, there are other things that will be able to be "pushed" by it obviously.

muppetman11 30-01-2011 19:13
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35162066)
I would imagine if lovefilm came to tivo you would also need a lovefilm account as we do to allow us too play films from lovefilm through our blu ray player.
If you look at amazon.com they offer on demand films on a pay per view basis.

zantarous 30-01-2011 19:16
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35162035)
Over time, yes, when everyone gets upgraded to TiVo by Virgin over the next 3 years or so.

As for Netflix, they (along with Hulu?) will have to contend with the maze of broadcasting rights over here, Netflix can't just show imports like say, NCIS, days in the UK days after being shown in the States due to existing broadcast contracts with FX/Five.
You have misunderstood me, with Amazon buying up streaming providers they already have the rights for that respective country. I did not mean netflix would come to the UK but that Amazon would have a operation in the US and the UK under different names. I can see it all coming under one name eventually.

jtaylor06 30-01-2011 19:16
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by whizzard (Post 35162076)
That is pretty much the plan, its also for notifications from such things as Remote Record and well, there are other things that will be able to be "pushed" by it obviously.
A lot of thought has gone in to it. I'm impressed.

Digital Fanatic 30-01-2011 19:18
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35162080)
A lot of thought has gone in to it. I'm impressed.
And this is just the beginning :)

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 19:18
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35162077)
If you look at amazon.com they offer on demand films on a pay per view basis.
Yeah, but not from amazon.co.uk. Yet.

And I can't see that happening, even after the Amazon takeover, Lovefilm is a strong brand name by itself these days, with TV adverts galore, and besides.....isn't Sky's ownership of some VOD movies right preventing other companies from doing that sort of thing?

zantarous 30-01-2011 19:20
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35162058)
A very costly plan then and I expect once the sums are done a shelved plan.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/21.gif
Not nessarliy, are not all new installs VHD boxes now? And surely if old stock is now failing it is being replaced by VHD? This is a Cisco box as well and could run a streamlined Tivo service which Berkett has hinted to in the past?

Digital Fanatic 30-01-2011 19:22
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35162084)
Not nessarliy, are not all new installs VHD boxes now? And surely if old stock is now failing it is being replaced by VHD? This is a Cisco box as well and could run a streamlined Tivo service which Berkett has hinted to in the past?
Yes, this is true.

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 19:23
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35162079)
You have misunderstood me, with Amazon buying up streaming providers they already have the rights for that respective country. I did not mean netflix would come to the UK but that Amazon would have a operation in the US and the UK under different names. I can see it all coming under one name eventually.
My mistake. :)

I just think that some people think that Netflix over here = the chance to (legally) watch US content days after being shown in the States.

If Netflix were to open up over here tomorrow, they would (at best) only have access to UK content which is already provided by various VOD services over here anyway. I've read somewhere that's why Hulu have (for now) postponed their move into the UK market.

zantarous 30-01-2011 19:23
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35162083)
Yeah, but not from amazon.co.uk. Yet.

And I can't see that happening, even after the Amazon takeover, Lovefilm is a strong brand name by itself these days, with TV adverts galore, and besides.....isn't Sky's ownership of some VOD movies right preventing other companies from doing that sort of thing?
I am not entirely certain who streaming versus VoD rights work but in the US everyman and his god seem to have a streaming service, Netflix, Vudo, amazon and those are just of the top of my head.

I can't see the difference between being able to stream to a cable box versus a Blu ray player or directly to a TV. Amazon are usually quite good at leaving brand alone after purchase but I think the Amazon brand is too strong to not rebrand LoveFilm at some point.

muppetman11 30-01-2011 19:25
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35162083)
Yeah, but not from amazon.co.uk. Yet.

And I can't see that happening, even after the Amazon takeover, Lovefilm is a strong brand name by itself these days, with TV adverts galore, and besides.....isn't Sky's ownership of some VOD movies right preventing other companies from doing that sort of thing?
Fair point a monthly sub to stream films is great , however I think this year you will see Amazon on demand movies much like this

http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/..._rd_i=16261631

zantarous 30-01-2011 19:27
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35162086)
My mistake. :)

I just think that some people think that Netflix over here = the chance to (legally) watch US content days after being shown in the States.

If Netflix were to open up over here tomorrow, they would (at best) only have access to UK content which is already provided by various VOD services over here anyway. I've read somewhere that's why Hulu have (for now) postponed their move into the UK market.
I am pretty sure some legal services already offer this like iTunes and there is one other that I saw advertised the other day saying watch day after US broadcast. I know it is vague but I will see if I can remember who it is.

Edit: Ok I think it was itunes http://television.thedigitalfix.co.u...broadcast.html not sure I would want to pay per episode.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35162090)
Fair point a monthly sub to stream films is great , however I think this year you will see Amazon on demand movies much like this

http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/..._rd_i=16261631
But if it is a app on Tivo then you won't have to worry about your connection being capped if you want to stream a HD movie or have it effect other in the home.

muppetman11 30-01-2011 19:28
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35162091)
I am pretty sure some legal services already offer this like iTunes and there is one other that I saw advertised the other day saying watch day after US broadcast. I know it is vague but I will see if I can remember who it is.
I hope TIVO gets access to both Lovefilm streaming and an amazon on demand service the more choice the better. Pretty good value as well at $3.99 although most currently are SD.

HDFootyMan 30-01-2011 19:34
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35162087)
I am not entirely certain who streaming versus VoD rights work but in the US everyman and his god seem to have a streaming service, Netflix, Vudo, amazon and those are just of the top of my head.

I can't see the difference between being able to stream to a cable box versus a Blu ray player or directly to a TV. Amazon are usually quite good at leaving brand alone after purchase but I think the Amazon brand is too strong to not rebrand LoveFilm at some point.
Even before joining them I was getting loads of post in the post of them, begging me to join. Of course, their biggest shareholder at the time was doing their bit to promote Lovefilm too.


Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35162090)
Fair point a monthly sub to stream films is great , however I think this year you will see Amazon on demand movies much like this

http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/..._rd_i=16261631
I forgot to mention: You can watch PPV movies on Lovefilm, but that's on top of your Lovefilm package price.

As for the good old Sky Factor:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...mackenzie.html
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LoveFilm is unable to instantly offer digital streams of new release movies because Sky owns the majority of subscription video on-demand (SVOD) rights in the UK. Last August, Ofcomhttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/03/103.png asked the Competition Commission to investigate concerns about Sky's sale and distribution of SVOD rights. The media regulator was particularly concerned that the satellite broadcaster's exclusive control over first-run Hollywood movies gave it an "incentive and ability to distort competition". Ofcom further believes that the current situation results in "less choice, less innovation and higher prices" for consumers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35162091)
I am pretty sure some legal services already offer this like iTunes and there is one other that I saw advertised the other day saying watch day after US broadcast. I know it is vague but I will see if I can remember who it is.

But if it is a app on Tivo then you won't have to worry about your connection being capped if you want to stream a HD movie or have it effect other in the home.
Yeah, dedicated 10 meg connection for each TiVo, optimized for video delivery and free of STM. Love it already. :)

As for legal services......can't say I've seen any, not for US content days after their stateside broadcast. I'll be interested if you have any luck finding such a service.

Right, I need food. :)

muppetman11 30-01-2011 19:43
Re: TiVo
 
Maybe a big player like Amazon may force a change in this Sky movie farce.

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An internet radio app on Tivo would be good as well.

jtaylor06 30-01-2011 19:44
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35162082)
And this is just the beginning :)
In the future, will it contain a time machine feature that is controlled using the play,pause, fastforward and rewind buttons?
;)

zantarous 30-01-2011 19:46
Re: TiVo
 
You may have missed my edit http://television.thedigitalfix.co.u...broadcast.html

The ad I saw must have been for them they are now offering a selection of shows for download the day after broadcast. Can't say i am a fan of pay per episode on top of a cable subscription or the whole Apple lock in system when it comes to itunes video.

Helix 31-01-2011 00:07
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35162069)
Just had a look through all the Tivo guides and the quick start.
Virgin have added a new 'Messages' portal for customers to keep up to date on the happenings with the TV service. That's great in my opinion!

It would be beneficial to get it on the current system as it would be of great help to customers to keep track, especially with all the channel close-downs, and movement of shows that is currently happening.
Didn't the current STBs have something similar when on the NTL software. I seem to remember there being a Service messages option in the menu but I don't think there was ever any messages sent.

mersey70 31-01-2011 01:12
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35162079)
You have misunderstood me, with Amazon buying up streaming providers they already have the rights for that respective country. I did not mean netflix would come to the UK but that Amazon would have a operation in the US and the UK under different names. I can see it all coming under one name eventually.
If you look at the Tivo boxes provided directly by the cable operator in the US netflix is not available, or amazon I think although you do have access to the cable operators own on demand services. I think blockbuster is available on RCN but not other platforms.

If you buy your own Tivo (not from the cable operator) then you CAN access netflix and blockbuster but you cannot currently access the operators own on demand services.

Seems mostly like one or the other, at least over there.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Helix (Post 35162253)
Didn't the current STBs have something similar when on the NTL software. I seem to remember there being a Service messages option in the menu but I don't think there was ever any messages sent.
Yeah not a bad feature so long as it is utilised, Sky have rarely used their message feature I think.

muppetman11 31-01-2011 09:13
Re: TiVo
 
I can't see these services like Lovefilm launching just hope I'm wrong.

WillPS 31-01-2011 11:44
Re: TiVo
 
LOL at the "Messages" feature being new.

Our very first Scientific Atlanta analogue CATV box from Diamond Cable had this feature!

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 12:45
Re: TiVo
 
I wonder if there will be any official announcements tomorrow - 1st Feb!

D4NNYP 31-01-2011 12:49
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35161984)
ESPN Player and MLB.tv would be nice, but I can't see it happening.

Would love this, was looking into which devices would play mlb.tv in high def in the uk.

I wonder how they decide which Apps to have?..

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 12:58
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by D4NNYP (Post 35162477)
Would love this, was looking into which devices would play mlb.tv in high def in the uk.

I wonder how they decide which Apps to have?..
Cost!

muppetman11 31-01-2011 13:03
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenJSmyth (Post 35162484)
Cost!
More like what profit Virgin can make out of them. :D

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 13:14
Re: TiVo
 
Would this have anything to do with when they may release details about Tivo to customers:

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...ews&id=1521534

Horizon 31-01-2011 13:16
Re: TiVo
 
I'd imagine the info will be released before the next lot of results are out.

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 13:17
Re: TiVo
 
Maybe tomorrow is a potential release date then!

nn012 31-01-2011 13:18
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No that's the normal notification they send out before a quarterly earnings release. Being 17 days away, it gives them a lot of chances to make several announcements, which I've noticed they tend do to the run up of and then go quiet until the next time round.

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 13:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nn012 (Post 35162509)
No that's the normal notification they send out before a quarterly earnings release. Being 17 days away, it gives them a lot of chances to make several announcements, which I've noticed they tend do to the run up of and then go quiet until the next time round.
But maybe one of those announcements could be Tivo related. I know you are all probably thinking "straws" and "clutching", but what else can we do!

zantarous 31-01-2011 13:30
Re: TiVo
 
They never give release dates or announcements for this, you get vague stuff about future products, last few times we have all waited for HD channel info but nothing ever happened.

D4NNYP 31-01-2011 13:32
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35162491)
More like what profit Virgin can make out of them. :D
That's what I thought... Surely it's in MLB interests to have as many devices as possible with their App, as they would be recieving the subscription...

So will it just be a case of Virgin waiting for the highest bidders.. . though with MLB.TV there is no competition unlike a film provider..

Does the Tivo have limited App space..

muppetman11 31-01-2011 14:32
Re: TiVo
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ilm-deal-films

dcj78 31-01-2011 14:44
Re: TiVo
 
Apologies for using this point in the thread to say my bit, but TiVO is the only thing that can save me from going back to Sky.

Over the past 15 years or so I have yo-yo’d between the two suppliers, generally when I have moved from a cable to non-cable area and vice versa. I moved 18 months ago from a non-cable area and had had enough of Sky, especially the cr*p broadband. So took the opportunity to join Virgin (my previous cable experience was with TeleWest).

I’m in the Southend-on-Sea, Essex area and a V+ HD XL TV customer (two boxes) with L Broadband and M Phone. I’m a big sports fan and although ESPN HD is okay I can’t help that I’m missing out on Sky Sports HD, plus the fact I couldn’t watch sport on the go on my Ipod Touch (Sky Anywhere). The V-Player is limited and again isn’t supported on Ipod Touch / I-phone.

I’ve been reading the various threads with interest, especially the Sky Atlantic one. Again this is another potential problem, Virgin selling channels to Sky (Bravo etc), all the time Sky are increasing the channels numbers and Virgin losing channels!

My bills are nearing £100 every month, something I could nearly half with Sky (free broadband). Yes I know it’s going to be sh*t compared to cable but £50 is a lot to shell out every month!

Basically in a nutshell can TiVO save Virgin from losing my business? How long should I be prepared to wait?

zantarous 31-01-2011 14:53
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35162581)
Lets hope the Competition Commission see sense as the way film rights are being sold at the moment for VoD is outdated. Imagine if only one company was allowed to rent DVDs from a physical shop like Blockbuster there would be a outcry.

Streaming media is the next evolutionary step for renting and one company must not be allowed to own exclusive rights, this is bad for the customer, the industry and innovation.

muppetman11 31-01-2011 15:15
Re: TiVo
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gam....web.ondemand/

Digital Fanatic 31-01-2011 15:19
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcj78 (Post 35162594)
Apologies for using this point in the thread to say my bit, but TiVO is the only thing that can save me from going back to Sky.

Over the past 15 years or so I have yo-yo’d between the two suppliers, generally when I have moved from a cable to non-cable area and vice versa. I moved 18 months ago from a non-cable area and had had enough of Sky, especially the cr*p broadband. So took the opportunity to join Virgin (my previous cable experience was with TeleWest).

I’m in the Southend-on-Sea, Essex area and a V+ HD XL TV customer (two boxes) with L Broadband and M Phone. I’m a big sports fan and although ESPN HD is okay I can’t help that I’m missing out on Sky Sports HD, plus the fact I couldn’t watch sport on the go on my Ipod Touch (Sky Anywhere). The V-Player is limited and again isn’t supported on Ipod Touch / I-phone.

I’ve been reading the various threads with interest, especially the Sky Atlantic one. Again this is another potential problem, Virgin selling channels to Sky (Bravo etc), all the time Sky are increasing the channels numbers and Virgin losing channels!

My bills are nearing £100 every month, something I could nearly half with Sky (free broadband). Yes I know it’s going to be sh*t compared to cable but £50 is a lot to shell out every month!

Basically in a nutshell can TiVO save Virgin from losing my business? How long should I be prepared to wait?
:welcome: to the forum

Virgin Media have added a lot of channels over tha last year, namely 20 odd HD incl Sky Premium HD content (Incl Sky Sports HD).

Sky Atlantic is a Sky channel, so it's going to be exclusive to them for a while. The gap has closed massively over the last year between the two companies.

When you start using TiVo, you'll forget about Atlantic :)

denphone 31-01-2011 15:33
Re: TiVo
 
When are we going to use Tivo DF.

ronnie_m 31-01-2011 15:34
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35162629)
:welcome: to the forum

Virgin Media have added a lot of channels over tha last year, namely 20 odd HD incl Sky Premium HD content (Incl Sky Sports HD).

Sky Atlantic is a Sky channel, so it's going to be exclusive to them for a while. The gap has closed massively over the last year between the two companies.
.
When you start using TiVo, you'll forget about Atlantic :)
Personally i am not bothered about Atlantic. Now doc has told me i will not be allowed back to work until end of may after my broken ankle i need something like Tivo to give me something new to watch

royaltiger 31-01-2011 15:35
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35162629)
:welcome: to the forum


When you start using TiVo, you'll forget about Atlantic :)

Forget about who .... :Sprint:

Digital Fanatic 31-01-2011 15:37
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35162647)
When are we going to use Tivo DF.
We are just dotting the I's and crossing the T's now... It has to be perfect before our customers get it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by royaltiger (Post 35162651)
Forget about who .... :Sprint:
ha ha :D

dcj78 31-01-2011 15:45
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35162629)
:welcome: to the forum

Virgin Media have added a lot of channels over tha last year, namely 20 odd HD incl Sky Premium HD content (Incl Sky Sports HD).

Sky Atlantic is a Sky channel, so it's going to be exclusive to them for a while. The gap has closed massively over the last year between the two companies.

When you start using TiVo, you'll forget about Atlantic :)
TiVO does look impressive, but as several individuals have stated on this forum, content and cost is the key. I'll wait to see what the costs from Virgin are...

Angel67 31-01-2011 16:42
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35162629)
When you start using TiVo, you'll forget about Atlantic :)
What a great tagline for TiVo...nice one DF ;)

Digital Fanatic 31-01-2011 17:05
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel67 (Post 35162727)
What a great tagline for TiVo...nice one DF ;)
he he :D

ozsat 31-01-2011 17:09
Re: TiVo
 
Existing TiVo Series 1 customers in the UK are now getting install dates for their VM TiVo - see http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=463841

tweedie 31-01-2011 17:13
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35162754)
Existing TiVo Series 1 customers in the UK are now getting install dates for their VM TiVo - see http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=463841
*******s

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 17:14
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35162754)
Existing TiVo Series 1 customers in the UK are now getting install dates for their VM TiVo - see http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=463841
Is this just for S1 Tivo owners or is this a general ring around for those who pre registered online?

whizzard 31-01-2011 17:15
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenJSmyth (Post 35162761)
Is this just for S1 Tivo owners or is this a general ring around for those who pre registered online?
S1 owners have their own offer which was transmitted on their old TiVos.

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 17:16
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That's a good sign though. We can't be that far off from a release to "normal" customers. I'm hoping being a VIP customer makes a difference!

muppetman11 31-01-2011 17:42
Re: TiVo
 
I would love to have Lovefilm and some sort of Amazon on demand pay per view movies much like in the US on TIVO this way when you search for a film TIVO would have linear tv , lovefilm , filmflex and Amazon on Demand , with competition pay per view prices would likely drop.

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 17:43
Re: TiVo
 
This sounds interesting too!

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=463833

muppetman11 31-01-2011 17:47
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenJSmyth (Post 35162779)
Sounds promising :D

tweedie 31-01-2011 17:47
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenJSmyth (Post 35162779)
Very interesting, I hope my phone rings soon.

Surely DF and others can take there GIMP masks off and discuss TiVo now

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 17:50
Re: TiVo
 
It sure does! Perhaps tomorrow will be the day everything becomes official.

Come on VM, I'm waiting by the phone...!! :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tweedie (Post 35162784)
Very interesting, I hope my phone rings soon.

Surely DF and others can take there GIMP masks off and discuss TiVo now
Not without a photo of them first though. Surely not a sight we can miss... :erm:

jtaylor06 31-01-2011 17:53
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Helix (Post 35162253)
Didn't the current STBs have something similar when on the NTL software. I seem to remember there being a Service messages option in the menu but I don't think there was ever any messages sent.
Have no idea. I used Telewest before the Teleport (OD) features were introduced, but had switched to Sky for a few years, before coming back as Virgin Media was born.

tweedie 31-01-2011 17:53
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenJSmyth (Post 35162785)
It sure does! Perhaps tomorrow will be the day everything becomes official.

Come on VM, I'm waiting by the phone...!! :D
Hopefully. Its certainly looking up. Put a bit of a downer on the Sky Atlantic launch

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 17:58
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tweedie (Post 35162788)
Hopefully. Its certainly looking up. Put a bit of a downer on the Sky Atlantic launch
It certainly would. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.

Do you think VM have done enough of a build up of it. What are we now...two months since the announcement? :(

zantarous 31-01-2011 17:59
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35162754)
Existing TiVo Series 1 customers in the UK are now getting install dates for their VM TiVo - see http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=463841
What a load of bull manure, and those of us that registered our interests the day the site went up get nothing yet.

tweedie 31-01-2011 18:00
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenJSmyth (Post 35162791)
It certainly would. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.

Do you think VM have done enough of a build up of it. What are we now...two months since the announcement? :(
Personally, no. If I wasn't a regular cableforum viewer I would never have even know about VM tivo when it was announced

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Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35162793)
What a load of bull manure, and those of us that registered our interests the day the site went up get nothing yet.
+1 :)

I expect the same deal as them tbh

mikerr 31-01-2011 18:02
Re: TiVo
 
First installs are on Wednesday 2nd, for us lucky S1 owners

BenJSmyth 31-01-2011 18:04
Re: TiVo
 
I wonder if phoning up the sales team is worth a shot. Probably not though to be honest.

tweedie 31-01-2011 18:10
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikerr (Post 35162796)
First installs are on Wednesday 2nd, for us lucky S1 owners
Out of interest, when did you register your interest for VM TiVo?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BenJSmyth (Post 35162798)
I wonder if phoning up the sales team is worth a shot. Probably not though to be honest.
Probably a waste of time, but its clear someone on the phones at virgin are clued up

muppetman11 31-01-2011 18:10
Re: TiVo
 
I've just read on there that some guys been rung and upped his TV to XL from M+ what about loyal VIP and XL customers.

whizzard 31-01-2011 18:14
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tweedie (Post 35162800)
Out of interest, when did you register your interest for VM TiVo?

---------- Post added at 17:10 ---------- Previous post was at 17:08 ----------



Probably a waste of time, but its clear someone on the phones at virgin are clued up
They have a dedicated ring fenced team who will be contacting those who have pre-registered via the varying channels. S1 TiVo owners have their own offer, though you could try doing the old Jerry Maguire-esque 'Show me the TiVo' monologue and see how far you get.. :)

Angel67 31-01-2011 18:14
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35162803)
I've just read on there that some guys been rung and upped his TV to XL from M+ what about loyal VIP and XL customers.
I'm wondering if it's because he's a S1 owner as they seem to be the ones getting the calls at the moment. Someone correct me if I'm wrong as I'm thinking that only S1 owners are getting the calls at the moment? :erm:

Digital Fanatic 31-01-2011 18:16
Re: TiVo
 
You can almost taste it.....

whizzard 31-01-2011 18:18
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel67 (Post 35162811)
I'm wondering if it's because he's a S1 owner as they seem to be the ones getting the calls at the moment. Someone correct me if I'm wrong as I'm thinking that only S1 owners are getting the calls at the moment? :erm:
Nail. Hammer. Connected.

Digital Fanatic 31-01-2011 18:20
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35162803)
I've just read on there that some guys been rung and upped his TV to XL from M+ what about loyal VIP and XL customers.
It's coming... it's coming .. they haven't forgot about you :) :cool:

muppetman11 31-01-2011 18:21
Re: TiVo
 
Bet calls have finished now. They are paying 149 only how's that ?

zantarous 31-01-2011 18:24
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35162820)
Bet calls have finished now. They are paying 149 only how's that ?
And got all the early install dates.

tweedie 31-01-2011 18:25
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35162819)
It's coming... it's coming .. they haven't forgot about you :) :cool:
I hope you have a mass amount of pictures waiting to upload DF :)

Angel67 31-01-2011 18:26
Re: TiVo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by whizzard (Post 35162817)
Nail. Hammer. Connected.
Mmmmm so much for existing VM customers getting called first then!!!

In an ideal world we'd all be contacted around the same time of course ;)


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