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Considering we didn't want to pay £60m in the summer, why would we want to now? I highly doubt Fergie wants to blow that amount of money on a single player.
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Manchester United paid magicians more than £50,000 over a two-year period, and gave a similar sum to a firm which supplies clowns. Full story: News of the World ---------- Post added at 12:54 ---------- Previous post was at 12:52 ---------- Quote:
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There've been similar stories ever since the yanks took over, the best one being "Old Trafford will have to be renamed to take on a sponsor".
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I'm sure it has happened at a club which is now in the Championship. It won't happen to the most successful team in the premiership though.
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The Emirates has been Arsenal's grounds name since it was built. No sponsor would ever take that away!.....
Anyway, United do have debt problems. They are like Liverpool in that even servicing the debt was becoming problem although I think it's eased a bit and is no where near Liverpool's debt. Liverpool's debt could kill the club. Arsenal have manageable debt, pretty health position the club is in. Man City and Chelsea are playthings for billionaires. As long as their owners stay they will be fine. |
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The major problem in Premeier League football, is the inconsistency with referee's again.
We had the Henry problem with France, and today in the Spurs game was the poor decision with Ref. Mariner. There were deliberate handballs, especially with the Everton player, that l will call Hairbrush, as l cannot prounounce his name, firstly he cuaght the ball in both hands (which was a red card offence, as it was delibret), and then a couple of minutes later he brushed the ball away in the box, which should have been a penalty. These are supposed to be top class referee's,but some of them deserve to be in Sunday league football, l just decided to pack the book up, as l am sick and tired of getting stick from players, and get paid £30 per game. In the game of football, you cannot have one rule for one set of players, and another set for someone else.:mad: |
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interesting listening to Herman Hreidssenn talking after the Birm game. Two points number one he said "he was waiting for contact" which shows that players do cheat and if they get contact fall over on purpose. He also said there was no contact and a pen shouldn't have been given but of course like Henry he never said that during the game.
This is why people who say managers should police that are wrong as that will never work. if that was the final game of the season and fall over to cheat and win a pen saved the club from relegation would the manager or chairman of the club even care |
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Something tells me the Daily Mirror were short of a story to put on the back of the paper ;) (Yes this story was on the back of the Mirror in the Manchester area, I kid you not).
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ESPN secures rights to show FA Cup matches from next season
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We all know Arsenal will sign some nobody for £5 million, who will be written off by Football writers as too lightweight and then be awesome :D
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At last, here is the Man Utd line up for tonight....
Man Utd: Kuszczak, Park, Fletcher, Carrick, Evra, Gibson, Scholes, Nani, Welbeck, Anderson, Owen. Subs: Foster, Valencia, Obertan, Eikrem, James, Gill, Stewart. Hopefully the makeshift back four will hold out. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8400514.stm |
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Bah. Who cares if they don't? The amount of quality teams finishing second makes it pretty much pointless where you finish other than having the home leg last (itself a dubious honor as it means the other team has a longer period for an away goal)
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Owen's first Champion's League hatrick :)
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Despite finishing 3rd, Wolfsburg may go through anyway:
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Congrats to Owen. Would love to see him on the bench at the WC if he's fit.
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This is Man Utd I am talking about, winning is the only option, it doesn't matter about who we get in the next phase. Also I am pleased for Michael Owen tonight. Another master stroke by SAF in signing him on a free. :) |
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It's strange that nearly our whole team is out injured but Owen is still fit! :D |
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Sol Campbell to United?
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle249069.html Our backline is depleted and SAF did the same sort of thing with Hendrik Larsson so I'm thinking this could be a possibility. |
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I'll be suprised if this happens. O'Shea, Evans, Brown and Neville are all going to be back from injury by January, there shouldn't be any need for a defender then.
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Think Arsenal would be more interested in Sol as back up to be honest. We risk being left without a defense as well plus he trains with Arsenal at the moment.
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Youngsters dominating at the mo \o/ Average age of our side tonight is 20.
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That's hardly surprising, given Liverpool's laughable games of late. Out of Europa League within the first 2 rounds.
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Some interesting results today.
lol@Rooney's pathetic dive, congrats to the ref for booking him. Now let's refer to this; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ccusation.html LOL. |
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Rooney has always been a diver, as any self-respecting football fan can attest. His diving is effectively what ended Arsenal's unbeaten run a few years ago, and his penalty against us this season was due to him going down well before any contact was made. I thought English players didn't dive? I thought cheating in football was an effigy burning offence................where are all the sanctimonious, outraged football fans who castigated Thierry Henry or Eduardo? |
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I quite liked this bit of commentary from The Guardian
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Awful finishing again. Yet I'm sure SAF thinks we don't need more firepower :rolleyes:
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So the extend of MotD's coverage of Rooney's dive was the commentator attempting to explain the fall with "Now remember, he's running at full speed." and then sorrowfully admitting he wasn't touched by anyone. There was absolutely zero mention of it in the analysis afterwards.
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It's simple. Rooney/Gerrard = England Golden Boys Drogba/Eduardo/Ngog = Foreign Cheats. Imagine if Scholes was Foreign, he would be in for a lot more criticisms of some of his 'tackles' and he even hand balled before a goal for England. No one cared, when Henry on the other hand does it well then he should be banned from the World Cup and will always be remembered as 'the cheat' (he won't of course but there you go). |
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Why do I get the feeling that this one will be the first of many this xmas?? |
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Its quite simple, a referee has to be hard enough to apply the rules of the game, if you dive, RED card, if you pull your shirt off after scoring a goal, a bit of common sense.
Football is a mans game and also a cheating one, and its big, handballs, diving, etc, RED, but again referees are too soft, bring back the days of Clive Thomas, if you broke the rules, he would send you off. He once did a survey of a game, and he said to the tv commentator, that the referee was to soft, and that if you allow the game to go into 'madness' where players were doing the dirty tackles, then the ref has lost it. Regarding the Rooney incident, that was NO penalty, and he should have been sent off for diving, but there again the referee was soft, it was like the stupid red card yesterday of a player got sent off for taking his shirt off, although he has already had a yellow, the referee should have said ' look you are on a yellow, don't be stupid, l could send you off for that, common sense should have come in. |
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Get in!!! We're right back in the title mix with a game in hand.
Burnley away in midweek will be tough though. Lolerpool. |
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Excellent!
4 points clear from 5th, 3 points behind United, 6 behind Chelsea with that game in hand. So pleased, was so disappointed at half-time. |
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Not so happy with the result, but we played better as a team which is a positive to take from the game. We didn't make as much out of the first half having been all over them. But then you go giving them a helping hand - what can you expect.
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Fabregas reckons Wenger actually kicked off for once, he'd never seen him get like it before! And Fabregas himself told the Arsenal players at HT that they don't deserve to wear the shirt if they play as bad as they did in the first half.
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I'm inclined to agree about the penalty decision, as about a few more. But you can't blame a lost game all on the ref - i hate it when people do that :rolleyes: |
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I can't believe the brass neck of the guy after the number of times United have benefited from extended injury time winners...
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What i`d of given to be that fourth official holding up that extra time board knowing what Ferguson`s reaction would be.
He must have been tempted to go :PP: Good result for Arsenal, looks like things are coming together for the team and injuries withstanding they may be serious title contenders. As for Liverpool, they look a disjointed team who have very little in the way of creativity. I think the confidence among the squad is at a very low point! |
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United Lost. Fergie doesn't want people to write about them losing. So he says something to deflect. Haven't we been here before.:D
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we didn't get the job done in 90 mins so giving us extra time wouldn't have mattered. Fair play to Villa they used the tactic of passing to their own men and beat us.
What is annoying about the board is they are meant to add on 30 seconds for each sub which makes 3 mins if they are all taken. So is the ref saying with no subs the game would have just ended ? |
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It's a minimum of 30 seconds per change in that half plus additional stoppages.
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wonder if this is listed on the FA site. This is where I always say that stupid board makes no sense. If it is a minimum of 30 seconds then basically the ref is saying there weren't any stoppages as the only time he added on would have been for the subs.
If you add up the subs plus the stoppage time then it ends up being about 7-8 mins which just looks stupid so they stick to the standard 3-4 every match |
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I agree with that. A lot of the football Journalists at The Times/Guardian/Telegraph seem to have the same view, if you listen to their Podcasts they are much more balanced and care less about the hysteria. Although those papers do employ 'commentators' who seem to write more baiting rubbish.
The problem is papers like The Sun whom lot of 'football' fans use as their main source and who will wrap Rooney and the like in the flag. To them it's almost Anti-English to say Rooney/Gerrard and co dive as well. Unfortunately these are the morons who Sky Sports bring in to talk about it on the Sunday Supplement program. |
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There's nothing like tarring everyone with the same brush!
Seems to have an issue with scousers just as much as cheats :rolleyes: |
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This is the perfect opportunity to shamelessly boast that i won tickets to a special video episode of Football Weekly in the diamond suite at Emirates Stadium a couple of weeks ago. Free beer, Emirates Stadium and meeting James Richardson; it was a glorious evening! |
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what amazing me about diving and cheating is the attidute of the ex players who are now commentators or pundits. I'm sure they are all in on the cheating.
I was watching MODT with Hansen talking about the Bellamy sending off. he knows full when in his day and before then the game wouldn't even have stopped for that. When I watched it i saw Bellamy do the usual thing of sticking his legs at the defender to make sure HE fell over the defenders legs rather than getting fouled and falling over. All the ex players know this but they go round saying it was a def foul |
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You do realise the headline on the front of the NOTW football pullout on Sunday was something like 'United and Rooney take a dive'. I'm not saying they made a big deal about it, i didn't read the article that went with it, but they didn't not write about it like some people are making out.
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Really lost patience with Walcott now, so poor.
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David Beckham heads back to Old Trafford with Milan while Chelsea will welcome back Jose Mourinho and his Inter Milan. Arsenal face Porto. Not a good draw for Chelsea and United would have wanted to avoid AC Milan but should win it.
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Beckham's coming home :D
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Porto won't be push overs with Falcao & Hulk up front.
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Portsmouth 2-0 Liverpool
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Two great goals by Pompey too.
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I think Rafa can expect a P45 in with his Christmas card from the LFC management :D
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1831: BREAKING NEWS: Manchester City have confirmed the sacking of manager Mark Hughes, and announced the appointment of Roberto Mancini as his replacement.
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Wow. What a day. Losses to Liverpool (well, ok, not a shock) and United. Hughes is fired. Now, Harry Redknapp is to face 'proceedings' about the tax thing.
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But 8 draws this year isn't top flight football (well not to the people that make the decisions)
I wonder if he'll hold the record for a sacked manager who's only lost (i think) 2 games this season :rolleyes: |
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Good day for Manchester ;)
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we have too many squad players who just aren't good enough. Park, Nani, Anderson, O'Shea some of them aren't even good squad players. Don't think much of Wellbeck either. With the loss of Ronaldo and Tevez we have to play these more and more and it's no wonder we are third in the league.
Fell sorry for sparkey I get the feeling he was sacked just because everyone thinks you need a foreign manager to do well |
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What is it between Arsenal and Hull. Gah.
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The only comment i can think of concerning the sacking of Mark Hughes is It`s wrong. Now we have a manager who doesn`t know or bought any of the players just because he`s a name!
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At least Sparky will Rene from Allo Allo (ie Rafa) to keep him company down the jobcentre soon.
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Just read the news & I'm shocked. As a life long city fan I had at least expected sparky to see out the season.
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Seems the top 4 no longer is the top 4. TBH I wasn't expecting Hughes to be sacked, he's done a great job getting City knocking on the top 4 places. Perhaps the people in charge wanted somebody who would listen to them as opposed to run the team how the manager wanted.
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Another great weekend for us Gooners \o/
EDIT: Looks like John Terry's carrying on the family tradition of being a nasty piece of work; http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...h-scandal.html Why couldn't he arrange it properly? Why does he have to be sneaky? Why is he hanging around with ****? Why can't he give his own money to charity? This guy is on £100K+ a week. The Terry family are shocking. |
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Pfft. Donate money to a Children's charity then I'll show you personally around the ground? Can't really get worked about him doing that.
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I find it rather strange that not a single Manchester United fan has posted anything in defence of their turning over by Fulham, I mean 3 - NIL.:D:D:D
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I'm guessing you missed post 1284 perhaps?
Still, it's better than being beaten by the team at the bottom of the league I suppose. |
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