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virginruinedntl 09-06-2009 20:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
thats october at the earliest, they said june/july 2 months ago ish, grrrr, stop lying to us virgin!

Mobes 09-06-2009 22:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Jesus wept.... Was that it.... That's the suprise!!!!!

Usless company!!!!!!!!!!

weststandguy 09-06-2009 22:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
wow,they changed the logo.well woopie-do

Nook29 09-06-2009 22:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
The Virgin 1 rebrand wasn't the surprise, we've known about that for ages....

frogstamper 09-06-2009 22:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34811165)
The Virgin 1 rebrand wasn't the surprise, we've known about that for ages....
It must have been that manky puppet then...next weeks surprise will be Richard Branson stirring his tea!!!

Andrewcrawford23 09-06-2009 22:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 34811077)
thats october at the earliest, they said june/july 2 months ago ish, grrrr, stop lying to us virgin!
autum is july ot ocotbish

beeman 09-06-2009 22:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34811201)
autum is july ot ocotbish
err no that would bee SUMMER (and a VERY small bit of autum).

autum would bee late september onwards ;)

frogstamper 09-06-2009 22:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by beeman (Post 34811203)
err no that would bee SUMMER (and a VERY small bit of autumn).

autumn would bee late september onwards ;)
Agreed, autumn starts at the end of September.:)

Andrewcrawford23 09-06-2009 23:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Autum begins in august-october
Summer-may-july
Spring - feburary april
Winter - november to january

all the dates i have worked to as a gardener

akki007 09-06-2009 23:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34811211)
Autum begins in august-october
Summer-may-july
Spring - feburary april
Winter - november to january

all the dates i have worked to as a gardener
But you do realise that you are wrong.

Spring is deemed to start at the Vernal Equinox (near March 21), Summer at the Summer Solstice (near June 21), Autumn at the Autumn Equinox (near September 21) and Winter at the Winter Solstice (near December 21).

LondonRoad 09-06-2009 23:21
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I always thought that the midpoint of the seasons coincided with the winter, spring, summer equinox, i.e. 21st of December, March, June, September.

The seasons would therefore start 6.5(ish) weeks before these dates.

That roughly ties in with Andrews gardener calendar

beeman 09-06-2009 23:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34811211)
Autum begins in august-october
Summer-may-july
Spring - feburary april
Winter - november to january

all the dates i have worked to as a gardener
occording to the met office autum starts either the 1st of september or the 23rd of september (depending on weather your talking Meteorological or Astronomical).

regardless of that you origionally claimed autum started in july ;)

source: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatec...s/seasons.html

edit some people have made some posts while i was reasearching, most people have mentioned the equinox that refers to the Astronomical seasons :)

Andrewcrawford23 09-06-2009 23:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by beeman (Post 34811223)
occording to the met office autum starts either the 1st of september or the 23rd of september (depending on weather your talking Meteorological or Astronomical).

regardless of that you origionally claimed autum started in july ;)

source: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatec...s/seasons.html
True i more pointing out late july would be autum in the sense autum starts in august, but autum does appear to have different start dates depending on what you mean oyu basically said so yourself. so the question should be what does virign mean by autum?

LondonRoad 09-06-2009 23:29
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By autumn VM mean the 32nd of JUlumBer and the coming soon days:D

Andrewcrawford23 09-06-2009 23:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
i would have said the 34th of never myself ;)

frogstamper 10-06-2009 00:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34811238)
i would have said the 34th of never myself ;)
There you go Andrew, an autumn we can all agree on;) nobodies noticed yet though that VM have failed to mention which year this autumn will fall into.;)

moroboshi 10-06-2009 00:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smallclone (Post 34810662)
Thats the funniest post I've read on here.

I'm guessing you despise the internet and don't use the demonic device we all call the "telephone" too? ;)
I'm not sure I follow you.

TV content is, by and large, in my opinion, terrible. Occasionally there will be a gem like Planet Earth, and some of the US dramas are good (Mad Men in particular), but I struggle to find much else. Maybe I just have high standards.

It doesn't help that Virgin's ridiculous lack of high-def means that often when something interesting does come along I'll have to acquire it from other sources to see it with a watchable picture quality.

chass 10-06-2009 00:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34811148)
Jesus wept.... Was that it.... That's the suprise!!!!!

Usless company!!!!!!!!!!
well what did you expect is not the first time weve all been had :D

musicbravo 10-06-2009 01:05
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Quote:
It doesn't help that Virgin's ridiculous lack of high-def means that often when something interesting does come along I'll have to acquire it from other sources to see it with a watchable picture quality.
TV has been around for over 100 years and only in it's infancy was it unwatchable. Since around 1946 576i technology has been available making tv broadcasts more than watchable. Anyone would think we were still stuck at around 18 lines technology (possible in 1884). Give VM a break. HD will come, meanwhile if you have a HD tv allow your v+ to upscale or move elsewhere as afterall HD terchnology is a small pin prick in the history of TV.

EDIT: Apologies for the rant but the same argument is being covered over and over again.

---------- Post added at 00:05 ---------- Previous post was yesterday at 23:49 ----------

So is anything coming soon to Virgin TV? This used to be what this thread was about?

virginruinedntl 10-06-2009 01:57
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HD isnt a small pin prick, its a giant leap! The quality of 1920x1080i vs 720x576i is gigantic, makes sports and nature docu's watchable instead of pixelated and no more distortion around text on the screen, just clear text like on a pc monitor, its how tv should have always been and HD has been out for around 10yrs in america, uk was 7yrs ish late to start to jump ship.

All i really want is eurosporthd, itvhd, channel4hd and would be nice for fxhd, sky sports1-3hd if possible.

itv's quality is rather poor generally, especially for football so hd is a giant improvement, channel4 is much nicer in hd too and a little better pic qual for the upscaling (mainly due to higher bitrate rather than the actual upscaling).

i would have liked setantahd but that wont be happening hehe :P its a shame they could charge £15/month for setantahd and make a much better profit. lets see if sky or epsn buy out setanta and see what they do with it. would love to see ufc, boxing and football in hd.

frogstamper 10-06-2009 02:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 34811282)
TV has been around for over 100 years and only in it's infancy was it unwatchable. Since around 1946 576i technology has been available making tv broadcasts more than watchable. Anyone would think we were still stuck at around 18 lines technology (possible in 1884). Give VM a break. HD will come, meanwhile if you have a HD tv allow your v+ to upscale or move elsewhere as afterall HD terchnology is a small pin prick in the history of TV.

EDIT: Apologies for the rant but the same argument is being covered over and over again.

---------- Post added at 00:05 ---------- Previous post was yesterday at 23:49 ----------

So is anything coming soon to Virgin TV? This used to be what this thread was about?
To say that HD is just a small pin prick is ridiculous, I don't think that expecting a decent HD offering from the UK's second largest pay TV provider is asking too much, especially when it was this company that "first" offered an HD service.
Then again maybe you meant to say that VM's current HD offering was equivalent to a "pin prick", because of its paltry offering.;)

kesterwww 10-06-2009 02:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 34811042)
i think the big announcement must be setanta sports closing:P

On the news it says the channel could be dead at midnight!
Well it's 1:37am and Setanta still going strong, I'm pleased to say, as I enjoy the channel.

As for the nice surprise coming from VM, and when Autumn starts, it really is laughable. People debating when one season begins in the faintest hope that a single measly hd channel may start broadcasting on VM.
As I'm one of the people who want to have the option of HD channels, I have to say I'm sort of pleased the choice has been taken out of my hands. I'm moving to a place with no cable, and will take sky at the end of August (Or mid to late Autumn for AndrewCrawford23's sake).

jab1990 10-06-2009 10:38
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Why is it so hard for them to give dates for things. I would rather they say something is coming in six months rather then coming soon.

Mobes 10-06-2009 10:47
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So we don't have any ideas on what the suprise is or when it will be?? Just V1 saying a suprise is coming before Chuck (or whatever its called) began and then...nothing??

So what the flippin heck is going on???

sherer 10-06-2009 11:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jab1990 (Post 34811400)
Why is it so hard for them to give dates for things. I would rather they say something is coming in six months rather then coming soon.
the problem is if they announce something before a contract is signed then customers will sign up because of that. As such whoever they are negotiating with will have them over a barrel. Also if the deal falls through then again this can make VM look bad.

It's not just a matter of VM ring up Sky and saying can we have some HD channels and then paying them a set amount

Stephen 10-06-2009 11:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34811405)
So we don't have any ideas on what the suprise is or when it will be?? Just V1 saying a suprise is coming before Chuck (or whatever its called) began and then...nothing??

So what the flippin heck is going on???
The surprise last night was the rebranding of Virgin 1 and the new puppet called Red.

LondonRoad 10-06-2009 11:06
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There was a small red lindt chocolate below my tele when I got up this morning. I assume Richard Branson left it there for me ;) Didn't you all get one?... or was it only for people who don't keep harping on about HD:)

frogstamper 10-06-2009 12:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34811414)
The surprise last night was the rebranding of Virgin 1 and the new puppet called Red.
Hardly worth all the fuss and build up though Stephan, all that for a glove puppet and new logo, if VM call that marvelous what on earth are they going to call HD..."cataclysmically groundbreaking development on par with the second coming"?;)

Nook29 10-06-2009 12:47
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To be fair to VM, they never claimed that this V1 rebrand was a major thing, they just announced it a fair while ago and people who didn't know about it thought that was what their surprise was.

Mobes 10-06-2009 12:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34811443)
Hardly worth all the fuss and build up though Stephan, all that for a glove puppet and new logo, if VM call that marvelous what on earth are they going to call HD..."cataclysmically groundbreaking development on par with the second coming"?;)
EXACTLY... O.k THIS is what has annoyed me. Virgin Media FULLY knowing the annnoyance their customers feel about lack of linear HD make a big fuss about a "Suprise" on the launch night of the new (though WTF is new i dont really know) V1 channel and all it is, is a red glove puppet.

PATHETIC!

Andrewcrawford23 10-06-2009 13:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34811471)
EXACTLY... O.k THIS is what has annoyed me. Virgin Media FULLY knowing the annnoyance their customers feel about lack of linear HD make a big fuss about a "Suprise" on the launch night of the new (though WTF is new i dont really know) V1 channel and all it is, is a red glove puppet.

PATHETIC!
to be fair it only a nnoyance to say maybe 2-5 % of there cusotmer base which i say is about 10000-50000 customer max comapre with 3+ million customers, the people that want hd is small minority

Morgrin 10-06-2009 13:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34811484)
to be fair it only a nnoyance to say maybe 2-5 % of there cusotmer base which i say is about 10000-50000 customer max comapre with 3+ million customers, the people that want hd is small minority
How many customers are interested by a red glove puppet? VM need to take a long hard look at who decides how their budgets are spent.

Mobes 10-06-2009 13:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34811484)
to be fair it only a nnoyance to say maybe 2-5 % of there cusotmer base which i say is about 10000-50000 customer max comapre with 3+ million customers, the people that want hd is small minority
Andrew, i'm sure i looked these figures up but if somone can correct me then so be it...

BUT as far as i read it, taken proportionally, more Virgin subscribers have taken up V+ HD than Sky Subscribers have taken up Sky HD....

The numbers may be smallish but its more than Sky and Sky has 298146 HD channels to our 1

---------- Post added at 12:55 ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgrin (Post 34811502)
How many customers are interested by a red glove puppet? VM need to take a long hard look at who decides how their budgets are spent.
Exactly! Anyone in this game knows that Re-branding costs MILLIONS of pounds... much better spent on getting more HD!!!

Andrewcrawford23 10-06-2009 14:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34811505)
Andrew, i'm sure i looked these figures up but if somone can correct me then so be it...

BUT as far as i read it, taken proportionally, more Virgin subscribers have taken up V+ HD than Sky Subscribers have taken up Sky HD....

The numbers may be smallish but its more than Sky and Sky has 298146 HD channels to our 1

---------- Post added at 12:55 ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 ----------



Exactly! Anyone in this game knows that Re-branding costs MILLIONS of pounds... much better spent on getting more HD!!!
Correct me if i am worng but isnt the V+ also a PVR???? to quote figures because the V+ is in about 17% of virgin hojmes does not mean 17% of there cusotmer want HD. This is the point i always say people incorrectely use the figures to there own gains. Arthur always said laods of peopel would leave for sky for hd and sky and the numebrs have been small.

I am not disagree with you that some peopel want HD myself included but when you are goign to say most people do you need ot back it up with figures, all polls i have seen suggest 2-5% of virign customer want HD and that is just using satiticallyt analyst but the true figure would probally be less than 1% if you take into accoutn most popel that will be on these polls want hd

I await the response of about me being proactive virign support (ha like am just neutralk and say it as it really is even if it bad to virgin or good)

---------- Post added at 13:01 ---------- Previous post was at 13:01 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgrin (Post 34811502)
How many customers are interested by a red glove puppet? VM need to take a long hard look at who decides how their budgets are spent.
Well you have got me there!!! i would say 3??? maybe 0.000001%

Nook29 10-06-2009 14:13
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I really wish people would stop complaining about the Virgin surprise promise. For the final time, it WASN'T the Virgin 1 rebrand, the rebrand was announced ages ago and is in no way a surprise. Regardless of whether you like the rebrand or not, it has nothing to do with the surprise they announced the other week.

Stephen 10-06-2009 14:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34811505)

Exactly! Anyone in this game knows that Re-branding costs MILLIONS of pounds... much better spent on getting more HD!!!
Anyone in 'this game' as you put it and has a good understanding of how business' are run would know that budgets are set aside for things and its not simply a case of 'they could have spent that money on HD' they have individual budgets for everything so money they spent on rebranding and what not will not affect VM's plans for HD!

Mobes 10-06-2009 14:23
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Andrew, It's a fair point about it being a PVR but when your leading technology can only muster 1HD channel but your willing to spend millions on a Red sock, priorities are worng somewhere....

I await the response of about me being proactive virign support (ha like am just neutralk and say it as it really is even if it bad to virgin or good) - i don't understand mate, was this directed at me? :)

---------- Post added at 13:23 ---------- Previous post was at 13:17 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34811515)
Anyone in 'this game' as you put it and has a good understanding of how business' are run would know that budgets are set aside for things and its not simply a case of 'they could have spent that money on HD' they have individual budgets for everything so money they spent on rebranding and what not will not affect VM's plans for HD!
Nonsense!

The collective budget is broken up into individual budgets for each section of the company... therefore they decide how much the Advertising budget is and how much the HD budget is... therefore someone HAD to decided how much went into the glove puppet Budget when they could have decided to put more into the HD budget.

It's a ridiculous use of their money! Can anyone honestly say that V1 is now vastly different to what it was apart from it's a red puppet and not a red Post box???

It's about priorties and Virgin at present want to wow us all with Elmo lite in the vain hope we forget about everything else LOL....

Stephen 10-06-2009 14:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34811516)
Andrew, It's a fair point about it being a PVR but when your leading technology can only muster 1HD channel but your willing to spend millions on a Red sock, priorities are worng somewhere....

I await the response of about me being proactive virign support (ha like am just neutralk and say it as it really is even if it bad to virgin or good) - i don't understand mate, was this directed at me? :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes
Nonsense!

The collective budget is broken up into individual budgets for each section of the company... therefore they decide how much the Advertising budget is and how much the HD budget is... therefore someone HAD to decided how much went into the glove puppet Budget when they could have decided to put more into the HD budget.

It's a ridiculous use of their money! Can anyone honestly say that V1 is now vastly different to what it was apart from it's a red puppet and not a red Post box???

It's about priorties and Virgin at present want to wow us all with Elmo lite in the vain hope we forget about everything else LOL....
The new Virgin 1 rebrand has nothing to do with getting HD. As mentioned in my above post business' have budgets set for things and this will not affect any HD aquisitions or anything else for that matter, they will have plenty of cash set aside for everything. Its all totally unrelated, so stop worrying that because Virgin 1 has a new look they will now not get HD or change anything else on their service this year.

Nook29 10-06-2009 14:28
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It's the case with most companies that they have seperate divisions, each with their own budget which they must stick too. The Virgin 1 rebrand will have come out of either the advertisers budget, or Virgin 1's budget.

I actually quite like the new mascot, Red. Nothing special, but it adds a bit of character to the channel.

Andrewcrawford23 10-06-2009 14:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34811516)
Andrew, It's a fair point about it being a PVR but when your leading technology can only muster 1HD channel but your willing to spend millions on a Red sock, priorities are worng somewhere....

I await the response of about me being proactive virign support (ha like am just neutralk and say it as it really is even if it bad to virgin or good) - i don't understand mate, was this directed at me? :)

.
No not at you just general people say i am proactive virgin and only say good thing and never put them down

Oh i do not disagree that they should have more hd speficially because they market the boix as hd but you cna not use the figures for v+ as reason for peopel wanting hd as it is a pvr to is my main point. But saying that since there pvr/hd box is now about 17-205 of there cusotmer thye have mroe reaosn to add hd channels than before when it was only about 2-5 % but the ones who want hd have mostly left and what left is only 10000 maybe 50000 customers a small amount

Mobes 10-06-2009 16:11
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I'm not worrying Stephen, i just don't buy your budget argument :)

cupcakes aka dd 10-06-2009 16:27
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VM need to realise that if they add more HD channels alot of people will come back from SKY. The only sticking point for most people is the lack of HD.

Andrewcrawford23 10-06-2009 16:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 34811608)
VM need to realise that if they add more HD channels alot of people will come back from SKY. The only sticking point for most people is the lack of HD.
No they will not, why.... because sky hd channel will not be there and that what most peopel want sky psorts and movies hd

even if they did they are tire dinto a contract so can not leave easily

cupcakes aka dd 10-06-2009 16:44
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I for one am not interested in sports or movies in HD. Movies in HD I watch on Blu-Ray.

Andrewcrawford23 10-06-2009 16:46
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1 person does not constuite most.... This discussion i think is going to far fromt he topic i think i will just wait until it seems back

gadge 10-06-2009 16:47
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What was the point of rebranding if the channel is up for sale anyway,knowing sky if they got it with living and the others whats the betting it would be called sky4.

musicbravo 10-06-2009 18:25
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Again people are far too hooked on HD. It will come and as for SD being pielated, that is rubbish. It is only pixelated for some people that have LCDs with poor SD picture quality. It still looks fine on my old CRT. And back to my original rant it took several years after the first permanent broadcast channel for other "quality" channels to appear. In other words just be patient.

Nook29 10-06-2009 18:33
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The quality of SD channels on my HDTV through HDMI is fantastic. Definite improvement over the quality from the standard box through scart, and that wasn't in any way bad. Anyone who thinks the quality is terrible and ends up downloading programs instead of watching on TV either needs a new TV or is just picking at everything.

musicbravo 10-06-2009 18:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34811671)
The quality of SD channels on my HDTV through HDMI is fantastic. Definite improvement over the quality from the standard box through scart, and that wasn't in any way bad. Anyone who thinks the quality is terrible and ends up downloading programs instead of watching on TV either needs a new TV or is just picking at everything.
Exactly, the v+ does a damn fine job through HDMI and isn't too sluggish through scart either

Nook29 10-06-2009 22:26
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A bit of vague info regarding what channels to respect, the VM twitter says they'll be 'A range covering most genres'.

kesterwww 10-06-2009 23:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 34811666)
Again people are far too hooked on HD. It will come ... And back to my original rant it took several years after the first permanent broadcast channel for other "quality" channels to appear. In other words just be patient.
Yes people are too hooked on hd channels. But who's fault is that? If VM hadn't made claims which they couldn't carry out, only to offer that exact same claim 3 months later, people wouldn't be wondering where they are. Sure, they/we'd still moan that there isn't enough hd channels, but atleast not clinging to some faint hope that they are going to start broadcasting soon.
your second point about how long channels started to appear way back when, well, if hd is todays equivalent, then the channels have appeared, we just haven't got access to them.

KenK 10-06-2009 23:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34811513)
I really wish people would stop complaining about the Virgin surprise promise. For the final time, it WASN'T the Virgin 1 rebrand, the rebrand was announced ages ago and is in no way a surprise. Regardless of whether you like the rebrand or not, it has nothing to do with the surprise they announced the other week.
OK. I suppose you can't tell us what the 'surprise' is, or when it's going to appear, because then it wouldn't be a 'surprise'? Again, OK.

But if this doesn't happen very, very soon, it's going to be regarded as yet another VM/ntl/CableTel "coming soon" fictional comment (or lie) to keep the punters hooked. They've been doing that far too often for too many years. Does the PR Dept really think this is a good way to treat the customers?

Nook29 10-06-2009 23:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
If I remember correctly the surprise came from a Virgin employee, nothing was officially announced. Either way, it seems like Autumn is when they're expecting the deals to be done by.

kesterwww 10-06-2009 23:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenK (Post 34811887)
But if this doesn't happen very, very soon, it's going to be regarded as yet another VM/ntl/CableTel "coming soon" fictional comment (or lie) to keep the punters hooked. They've been doing that far too often for too many years. Does the PR Dept really think this is a good way to treat the customers?
I suspect, as long as the customers are paying their bills, and new ones are signing up, the pr dept couldn't give a flying flick how the customers are treated.

frogstamper 11-06-2009 04:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 34811666)
Again people are far too hooked on HD. It will come and as for SD being pielated, that is rubbish. It is only pixelated for some people that have LCDs with poor SD picture quality. It still looks fine on my old CRT. And back to my original rant it took several years after the first permanent broadcast channel for other "quality" channels to appear. In other words just be patient.
"Just be patient for HD!!!!!

For crying out loud thats rich after all the false dawns, telling VM customers to be patient for HD, you must be having a laugh.
Alternatively you could have just told us that HD is "COMING SOON".:rolleyes:

sherer 11-06-2009 09:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
I have a feeling nothing will happen until the OFCOM review into pay TV. Not sure when that is due but isn't that soon ? Even if that forces Sky to open things up you know Sky will appeal and so that will drag on and on, and if it doesn't mention HD then again Sky will withhold it

Mobes 11-06-2009 10:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34811963)
"Just be patient for HD!!!!!

For crying out loud thats rich after all the false dawns, telling VM customers to be patient for HD, you must be having a laugh.
Alternatively you could have just told us that HD is "COMING SOON".:rolleyes:
Exactly - i think for a lot of us it's not just the lack of HD but the lies Virgin have spouted. They've been "Coming soon" for years then it was "In the 2nd 1/4, then it was Summer and now all of a sudden it's Autumn....

How often are they going to fail to deliver??

It makes them look at best inept and at worst dis-honest.

This HD fiasco is the first time ive ever had a problem with NTL/Virgin.

Other than this they have been (IMO) a top class company.

Stephen 11-06-2009 10:36
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34812043)
Exactly - i think for a lot of us it's not just the lack of HD but the lies Virgin have spouted. They've been "Coming soon" for years then it was "In the 2nd 1/4, then it was Summer and now all of a sudden it's Autumn....

How often are they going to fail to deliver??

It makes them look at best inept and at worst dis-honest.

This HD fiasco is the first time ive ever had a problem with NTL/Virgin.

Other than this they have been (IMO) a top class company.
Virgin Haven't lied. They have given rough dates as to when they expected to be able to announce/launch some HD channels.

However as anyone with a good understanding of how business deals are done, they need to agree contractual terms and such. Now if the companies they are dealing with cause problems or something happens then the deals can take longer.

So there is no point in VM stating an actual date where as giving a rough idea of the month/season is better if there are delays in signing contracts.

Nook29 11-06-2009 10:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
If the twitter guys are to be believed, the contracts aren't done yet, hence why there has been no announcement.

richard1960 11-06-2009 11:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34812007)
I have a feeling nothing will happen until the OFCOM review into pay TV. Not sure when that is due but isn't that soon ? Even if that forces Sky to open things up you know Sky will appeal and so that will drag on and on, and if it doesn't mention HD then again Sky will withhold it
That is the view i had everything hinges on the pay tv review,which if my memory serves me correctly has been rumbling on one way or another for 2 years!!:shocked: By the time ofcom report we could all be picking our pensions up,and i have 17 years until mine is due!!!.

Why it is taking them so long, goodness knows,when the office of fair trading i think put the sports/movies on the ratecard, it was done reasonably swiftly,ofcom seem to move like snails could all be down to politics ie not upsetting one important large shareholder before an election,oops cynical me.;)

Mobes 11-06-2009 12:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34812053)
Virgin Haven't lied. They have given rough dates as to when they expected to be able to announce/launch some HD channels.

However as anyone with a good understanding of how business deals are done, they need to agree contractual terms and such. Now if the companies they are dealing with cause problems or something happens then the deals can take longer.

So there is no point in VM stating an actual date where as giving a rough idea of the month/season is better if there are delays in signing contracts.
Yes they have! They were not "rough dates".They said we will have HD channles at certain times and nowt happend.

Anyone with "a good understanding of how business deals are done" shouldn't publicly announce 2nd 1/4 HD channels or summer HD channels B4 "contractual terms and such" are finalised!!!!

They said one thing and then have renaiged on it... whatever spin you put on it Stephen, they were unrtuths, lies blah blah blah.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34812064)
If the twitter guys are to be believed, the contracts aren't done yet, hence why there has been no announcement.
But there have been announcements... and they have backtracked on them... thats the point!

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P.s Sky have announced next year there will be Sky News HD... one more to add to the list lol...

Nook29 11-06-2009 12:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
They've so far backtracked on one announcement. If they've had difficulties making deals, then it isn't entirely their fault.

Sky News HD eh? I sure hope we get that! [/sarcasm]

Stephen 11-06-2009 12:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34812120)
Yes they have! They were not "rough dates".They said we will have HD channles at certain times and nowt happend.

Anyone with "a good understanding of how business deals are done" shouldn't publicly announce 2nd 1/4 HD channels or summer HD channels B4 "contractual terms and such" are finalised!!!!

They said one thing and then have renaiged on it... whatever spin you put on it Stephen, they were unrtuths, lies blah blah blah.

---------- Post added at 11:10 ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 ----------



But there have been announcements... and they have backtracked on them... thats the point!

---------- Post added at 11:11 ---------- Previous post was at 11:10 ----------

P.s Sky have announced next year there will be Sky News HD... one more to add to the list lol...
Not at all, they haven't gone back on anything.

They simply said that they have 5/6 HD channels coming and mentioned a season they never actually stated they could come on a certain date.

There has been no renaiging or back tracking. They gave a rough time frame for the channels and then that changed because of whatever reasons. So they gave a new estimate as to the date.

You would still be moaning if they simply said nothing at all. They are just trying to let customers know that HD channels are coming and they expect to have the deal sorted by that time. Now its not their fault if things do take longer. In business delays can happen.

At the end of the day its only a few TV channels, its not the end of the world if they take longer. I am sure there are bigger things in life to be worrying about than VM gettting HD.

Mobes 11-06-2009 12:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
WHAT??? Read back on this very thread mate and have a read. Have you not been about on it much?? VM have said a couple of times we plan to get HD channels @ A B C times and didn't. Not sure where you've been Stephen!!!

Estimates LOL... you should be a politician! Spin spin spin.

VM were always within their rights to say "Look we're working on getting HD. We're in negotiations but it's going to take time. Please don't think we're not trying becaus we are." - fine... but that's not what they've done.

What they HAVE done (and these are not opinions Stephen they are facts) is told us dates (estimated or otherwise - not forgetting the now infamous "Coming Soon") BEFORE negotiations were completed on when HD would come. These dates have encompassed the last 9 months or so.. and they've had to backtrack each time- how bloody stupid!!

And it's not about there being "bigger things in life" of course there are. I'm not fretting every night over it. I'm purly commentating on a message board on a company who have right royally cocked up over it's HD policy...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34812125)

Sky News HD eh? I sure hope we get that! [/sarcasm]
LOL i know... hardly my priority either but it's just one more to add to our...well..1...

Andrewcrawford23 11-06-2009 13:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34812160)
WHAT??? Read back on this very thread mate and have a read. Have you not been about on it much?? VM have said a couple of times we plan to get HD channels @ A B C times and didn't. Not sure where you've been Stephen!!!

Estimates LOL... you should be a politician! Spin spin spin.

VM were always within their rights to say "Look we're working on getting HD. We're in negotiations but it's going to take time. Please don't think we're not trying becaus we are." - fine... but that's not what they've done.

What they HAVE done (and these are not opinions Stephen they are facts) is told us dates (estimated or otherwise - not forgetting the now infamous "Coming Soon") BEFORE negotiations were completed on when HD would come. These dates have encompassed the last 9 months or so.. and they've had to backtrack each time- how bloody stupid!!

And it's not about there being "bigger things in life" of course there are. I'm not fretting every night over it. I'm purly commentating on a message board on a company who have right royally cocked up over it's HD policy...

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LOL i know... hardly my priority either but it's just one more to add to our...well..1...
See if you are going to say what is facts you should say all the facts, it only been 6 months that they have been saying they are trying ot get hd channels not 9 months. they have onyl failed on 1 annoucment 1st quarter the other was was for about july and the last tiem i checked it is not july they might still get the contracts done in time, but they have said they think it is autum now.

(i am not saying you are wrong about them saying things without being sure but you are takign things well out of portion as stephen said there more to life than a hd channel)

Stephen 11-06-2009 13:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34812160)
WHAT??? Read back on this very thread mate and have a read. Have you not been about on it much?? VM have said a couple of times we plan to get HD channels @ A B C times and didn't. Not sure where you've been Stephen!!!

VM were always within their rights to say "Look we're working on getting HD. We're in negotiations but it's going to take time. Please don't think we're not trying becaus we are." - fine... but that's not what they've done.

What they HAVE done (and these are not opinions Stephen they are facts) is told us dates (estimated or otherwise - not forgetting the now infamous "Coming Soon") BEFORE negotiations were completed on when HD would come. These dates have encompassed the last 9 months or so.. and they've had to backtrack each time- how bloody stupid!!
What they said was Q1 2009, Summer and now autumn. To me they are estimates as they are not actually giving a date, ie 26th July! They each cover a period of months. How have they back tracked?

I have been at work that's where I have been.

Many business' give these sort of rough dates when announcing new products and stuff and delays happen and things take longer, its no big deal.

Is it just because its VM that everyone is kicking up a fuss?

Mobes 11-06-2009 14:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
No it's because on THIS issue they have been inept.

As i have said previoulsy i have never had any problems with them B4... they've always been a great company...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34812170)
(i am not saying you are wrong about them saying things without being sure but you are takign things well out of portion as stephen said there more to life than a hd channel)
I've already answered that part!

kesterwww 11-06-2009 17:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
I very much agree with Mobes on these issues.
To say "There's more to life than HD" is a complete cop out. I find it hard to see how anyone who is keen to get more HD channels without having to change to a different provider could be anything but hacked off with VM's failier to deliver.
I may not have a great understanding of how business deals are done, but I understand that companys tell the customers what they want to hear. And to me, it certainly appears that is what VM are doing on this subject. I may be wrong about this, but it does seem that way.

Nook29 11-06-2009 17:34
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
People will have a much bigger cause for complaint if by the end of Autumn there's nothing new. Until then, they haven't yet gone back on their second promise.

Mobes 11-06-2009 17:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Before this new Autumn date i'm pretty sure i read that they said it would be This Summer..

Thats not to mention the whole "Coming Soon" debacle that's been at least 9 months, no Andrew? It certainly feels that long if not a darn site longer LOL

Nook29 11-06-2009 17:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Well the VM twitter guys keep saying Autumn time.

Mobes 11-06-2009 18:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Why does it come to mind that the word "twitter" is a very good description when it comes to VM telling us about HD?? ;)

devilincarnate 11-06-2009 18:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
hey have only posted once on this forum before and have been searching the net and have come across this and could this be one of the things that they have been talking about coming soon to vm

http://arstechnica.com/media/news/20...aunch-epix.ars

either i could be wrong or there is something about this ?

Nook29 11-06-2009 18:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
No word of that Epix service coming to the UK, seems like a US only thing so far.

devilincarnate 11-06-2009 19:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
it says that they are in talks with cable operators and satalite companies so when vm say that they are in talks who knows but i have only been a vm customer for 4 months and i have to say thet that service is better than sky

Andrewcrawford23 11-06-2009 20:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34812314)
Before this new Autumn date i'm pretty sure i read that they said it would be This Summer..

Thats not to mention the whole "Coming Soon" debacle that's been at least 9 months, no Andrew? It certainly feels that long if not a darn site longer LOL
its been 6 months, its only longer because people have been moaning about having it for longer. virgin have only said in december they are interested in getting hd linear channels 3 month previous the stanc ewas hd vod wa senough but that soon changed.

they said they intend to have it for 1st quarter that failed, then summer/july was meantioned but i can not rememebr which was meantionned by the ceo so i will go with july if that fails then it second tiem they have not delivered after saying they will get for then.

just cause they have now said autum means nothing it could happen befor ethen it could happen tomorrow no one knows but it will happen soon, but bear this in mind i will say that they will defintely have them by summer of 2010 which includes july in my mind. but you ar emost likely to see hd channel before christmas this year hopefully much sooner jsut depend son teh contracts

m419 11-06-2009 20:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Bubblehits on its way to Virgin TV? I see Bubblehits is providing some sort of promotion on Virgin TV Music on demand.

Andrewcrawford23 11-06-2009 20:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
VOD and tv channel are serperate although usual if a channel VOD appears then it sometimes appears as the channel to a few months later

Nook29 11-06-2009 20:32
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
To be honest I'm confident we'll have more HD channels by the end of 2009. I'm very confident of that.

Media Boy UK 11-06-2009 22:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34812120)
P.s Sky have announced next year there will be Sky News HD... one more to add to the list lol...
Thanks for info Mobes, Sky News HD now added to my offline list.

Five is to launch an HD Channel in 2010 on Freeview (In Digital only areas.)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 34812395)
Bubblehits on its way to Virgin TV? I see Bubblehits is providing some sort of promotion on Virgin TV Music on demand.
I cant find that promotion for BH on Virgin TV Music on Demand.

And BH as far as I know will not launch on Virgin TV as they 'Ceased broadcasting due to financial difficulties.' about four months ago.

Andrewcrawford23 11-06-2009 22:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34812469)
Thanks for info Mobes, Sky News HD now added to my offline list.

Five is to launch an HD Channel in 2010 on Freeview (In Digital only areas.)

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I cant find that promotion for BH on Virgin TV Music on Demand.

And BH as far as I know will not launch on Virgin TV as they 'Ceased broadcasting due to financial difficulties.' about four months ago.
There is a bubble hit promotion looked it after replying above.

FIVE HD will be available to sky as well so virign probally have option to negeotitoe and add it

KenK 11-06-2009 22:34
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34812303)
People will have a much bigger cause for complaint if by the end of Autumn there's nothing new. Until then, they haven't yet gone back on their second promise.
Ah, so they have gone back on their first "promise"?! I can't be bothered searching all the post on all the threads, but I'm sure the MD "promised" more HD channels in the first quarter 2009 - to me, that's before the end on March, i.e. over 10 weeks ago.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34812404)
To be honest I'm confident we'll have more HD channels by the end of 2009. I'm very confident of that.
What happen to 'by the end of Autumn' in the 3 hours between these posts? End of 2009 is over 6 months away; not even VM/ntl/CableTel can claim that as "coming soon".

I agree, there's more to life than the odd HD channel, but that's not what this discussion has developed into; it's about VM's transparency and honesty in keeping it's customers informed. If they're not going to get any more HD channels, just say so!!!

Media Boy UK 11-06-2009 22:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34812502)
There is a bubble hit promotion looked it after replying above.

FIVE HD will be available to sky as well so virign probally have option to negeotitoe and add it
Virgin TV do have an promotion but it for Clubland TV in my area anyway.

Nook29 11-06-2009 22:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenK (Post 34812514)
Ah, so they have gone back on their first "promise"?! I can't be bothered searching all the post on all the threads, but I'm sure the MD "promised" more HD channels in the first quarter 2009 - to me, that's before the end on March, i.e. over 10 weeks ago.

What happen to 'by the end of Autumn' in the 3 hours between these posts? End of 2009 is over 6 months away; not even VM/ntl/CableTel can claim that as "coming soon".

I agree, there's more to life than the odd HD channel, but that's not what this discussion has developed into; it's about VM's transparency and honesty in keeping it's customers informed. If they're not going to get any more HD channels, just say so!!!
In regards to the second quote, just because we're being told Autumn doesn't mean we'll get them then. All those who seem to be anti-Virgin in this thread are saying next year at the latest, and for my I'm certain we'll get them this year. I'm confident we'll get them when they say, but if that falls through, then by the end of the year I'm sure.

Andrewcrawford23 11-06-2009 22:46
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34812520)
Virgin TV do have an promotion but it for Clubland TV in my area anyway.
WEirdly it is promoted as jsut clunland here in castlecary area

KenK 11-06-2009 22:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34812521)
In regards to the second quote, just because we're being told Autumn doesn't mean we'll get them then.
Are you serious? You say we're being told Autumn, but we're not supposed to believe it? What is the point in that?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34812521)
All those who seem to be anti-Virgin in this thread are saying next year at the latest, and for my I'm certain we'll get them this year. I'm confident we'll get them when they say, but if that falls through, then by the end of the year I'm sure.
But they're not saying when we'll get them (apart from 'first quarter', which turned out to be a lie). I'm not anti-Virgin, I'm just anti-being-lied-to. To expand a previous statement - "if they don't know if or when they're going to get any more HD channels, just say so!!!"

Andrewcrawford23 11-06-2009 23:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenK (Post 34812538)
Are you serious? We're being told Autumn, but we're not supposed to believe it? What is the point in that?
But they're not saying when we'll get them (apart from 'first quarter', which turned out to be a lie). I'm not anti-Virgin, I'm just anti-being-lied-to. To expand a previous statement - "if they don't know if or when they're going to get any more HD channels, just say so!!!"
There has been no lying, just a broken promise at the most. virgin have been trying to get them added and tried there hardist to get them for th 1st quarter. do you have any idea how business contract are done? i very much doubt it ther every complex and thing can change from one day ot the next, hence why sky basics took so logn to come backm

KenK 11-06-2009 23:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34812542)
There has been no lying, just a broken promise at the most.
Broken promise - lie - what's the difference?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34812542)
virgin have been trying to get them added and tried there hardist to get them for th 1st quarter. do you have any idea how business contract are done? i very much doubt it ther every complex and thing can change from one day ot the next, hence why sky basics took so logn to come backm
Yes, I do have an idea about business contracts. I reckon the first rule is to not make any public comment until the contract is agreed.

musicbravo 11-06-2009 23:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Broken promise - lie - what's the difference?
Lies are deliberate
Broken promises can be accidental

KenK 11-06-2009 23:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 34812563)
Lies are deliberate
Broken promises can be accidental
It seems that they were months away from agreeing contracts when they made their 'promise' of first quarter. That to me is closer to deliberate than accidental.

kesterwww 12-06-2009 00:35
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 34766718)
Up to four more linear high definition channels will launch on Virgin Media's digital cable service over the next few months, Digital Spy was told today.


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...sed-on-hd.html
The above was posted on the 1st of april, the day after the first "promise" of hd in the next 3 months expired. It is on page 49 of this thread. A little further down that page is an entry from joglynne linking to an e mail from Neil Burkett to a customer asking about where the hd channels were. Makes very interesting reading.

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Me again... sorry, "interesting reading" maybe stretching the use of that term a little. But it does answer some of the questions about what VM have said over the past few months regarding hd.
And Andrew... Is a broken promise morally better than telling a lie? It still results in the same thing. Something being said which doesn't turn out to be true.
... Why am I letting myself get sucked into this debate?

virginruinedntl 12-06-2009 01:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Time to write some death threat letters to the Virgin CEO :P

might stop him lying.

frogstamper 12-06-2009 02:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
As someone who has been looking forward to getting any sort of decent HD content I've come to the simple conclusion not to believe a word VM says concerning HD.
My contract runs out at the end of September so I've decided that if there is still no HD I'll cancel my TV with VM and go to Sky, reluctantly.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/?p=11944

Just for fun read paragraph two, the part where Berkett says "VM could catch up quickly concerning HD 3 to 6 months"

Well Neil that gives you a tad under three weeks to fulfill that statement...lets see how you do.

Mobes 12-06-2009 10:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
KenK and Frogstamper see the truth.... pity VM can't talk it...

3 months 6 months, summer, autumn... lol... the BS goes on and on....

U know what, even if they appear tomorrow it wouldn't stop the company from looking shabby and inept afa HD is concerned....

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PMSL - just read that Digital spy link... last bit reads

"It is understood that additional talks are underway with a view to adding more linear HD services later this year and into 2010."

So bugger Autumn... it's now 2010

This just gets better and better LOL

akki007 12-06-2009 10:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
If anybody's primary concern is HD, then go to sky. Simples. Virgin can take as long as they want with HD given the proportion of their customer base demanding it.

Mobes 12-06-2009 10:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Blah blah blah... not everyone can get Sky, i can't. That argument is rizzable.

Indeed it misses the biggeer picture. It's not just about the lack of HD it's the farsical way VM have gone about it...

Nook29 12-06-2009 10:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenK (Post 34812538)
Are you serious? You say we're being told Autumn, but we're not supposed to believe it? What is the point in that?
But they're not saying when we'll get them (apart from 'first quarter', which turned out to be a lie). I'm not anti-Virgin, I'm just anti-being-lied-to. To expand a previous statement - "if they don't know if or when they're going to get any more HD channels, just say so!!!"

Wait a minute, so I'm not allowed to say that, but anybody else who says it in this thread (which is nearly everybody) is fine? Just because I'm confident VM will deliver more HD channels this year, does not mean I believe what they say, or expect we'll get them when they say we will. Autumn is a time frame set by the guys on the VM twitter, nothing official.

People in here seem to be too hung up on HD. I want more HD channels, but if it was my biggest concern I'd be with Sky right now. Even if I did require more HD channels to keep me happy, Sky wouldn't be much better. A lot of the HD channels they have are rubbish and I'd never use anyway.

Mike RB 12-06-2009 10:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by akki007 (Post 34812764)
If anybody's primary concern is HD, then go to sky. Simples. Virgin can take as long as they want with HD given the proportion of their customer base demanding it.

Seems a shame that VM just don't want to compete. Skys TV service is years ahead of VMs in my opinion. On demand is all well and good but not when there are missing episodes/seasons etc etc.

Technically, VM *should* be wiping the floor with Skys satellite service. As I've said before, I and I'm sure many others stick with VM because of price. I'd only want Skys TV service as VM provide a very good broadband and phone service in my opinion.

Nook29 12-06-2009 11:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
The only thing VM are behind on is HD, and that will be sorted. For me, VM provide a much better service.

Media Boy UK 12-06-2009 11:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Living primed for HD roll-out

Virgin Media will roll out an HD version of Living this year as part of a cross-platform strategy to boost the channel’s brand.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...002417.article

Info from Broadcast.


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