Re: The iPhone thread
 

According to what I just found out the iphone no longer appears as a disk but as a digital device such as a scanner.

Click Start, then Devices and printers, and your iphone should appear there.

if not then try here - http://www.tipstrs.com/tip/14580/Tra...s-to-Windows-7

Re: The iPhone thread
 

See that's the thing - the icon has gone. IT was there and now no luck.

I've been fiddling and now the pc won't recognise the iPhone at all. whoops :(

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Too much of that will stunt your growth.
The other suggestion was to connect the iphone with itunes closed.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yes indeed - it just looks for drivers tries to install, then fails.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Perhaps reinstalling itunes?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Try updating your version of iTunes...or remove and re-install your current version :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Reinstalling iTunes (which was the current version) - Has the phoe working again ;) - IE it can sync no problems but STILL doesn't show up in windows explorer.

All very odd.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

My iPhone has never shown up in Windows Explorer.... It has always been seen via iTunes though. Then I moved to Mac so its no longer an issue for me but I just thought it was how apple "designed" it.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yup usually it shows up in explorer and also pops up with an option to open a window so i can drag and drop my photo's off it.

But I can't do that now.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Does it show up as an imaging source in Devices and printers?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Well that's odd. I found a third party browser program so I could access the picture folder on the phone directly - deleted all the photos in it and it seems to have cleared up the problem. Maybe it was a corrupt photo or something. Thanks for everyone's help :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

It still doesn't show up there even thouh it's working now.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Glad we could assist.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Does anyone else have issues with orange 3G?

At times its really slow and the last couple of days whilst at work I have had little to no signal. (usually I get 3G and full "bars")

I asked orange and there are no outages in the area...

GM

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I was in and around Stockport all weekend. Didn't have any problems with 3G signal. I should add I was on a HTC Desire though.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/press-ce...release_id=471


I've just bagged all of them, along with a couple of other ones which are currently free but not on that list (I just searched iTunes for "Lonely Planet" & downloaded all the stuff that said "Free").

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Nice one...I've downloaded those now...will keep them for future reference :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Someone has apparently managed to dual boot Android and iPhone OS..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/22/android_iphone/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Was literally just reading that myself...i wonder what Apple will say about that...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

that guys thumbs are freaky lol

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Me too! And the fact I'm off to Barcelona on Wednesday is pure coincidence :D

I'll definitely use the Amsterdam one as I tend to go twice a year, funds permitting.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Still free (at this time) - just downloading them now.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Not strictly speaking iphone news this, but it seems that Steve Jobs's "And Another thing" section at the World Wide Developers conference on the 7th June might actually be......

Steve Balmer!

Yep, it's rumoured that the Microsoft CEO might just be there to announce that Visual Studio 2010 will compile native OSX and iPhone apps..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/27/ballmer_wwdc/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I think he'll be there to announce that Bing Search and Bing Maps will be the default on iPhone, a shot back at Google from Apple. Makes sense. Microsoft will be keen to push Search and Apple want to knock back Google a bit since Android is really having a good go at iPhone now (Especially considering the Android 2.2 keynote where they were they stopped just short of calling Apple evil).

I don't see the Visual Studio thing...Makes sense to have a Windows Development Environment for iPhone but OSX applications? Really? Seems a bit far fetched too me (I however love Visual Studio and .Net so would welcome it).

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The Apple WWDC 2010 kicks off in 1 hour... New iphone imminent..

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Live coverage here! http://www.macrumorslive.com/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Anybody know if there's a Twitter feed for this?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Thanks Derek :tu:

Re: The iPhone thread
 

watching via the gizmodo live feed now...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

All glass front and back. Metal sides.

Looks gorgeous. I want one!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

LOL. There were 500 people running Mi-Fi in the halls causing the demo to break.

Nice screen though. Should also have much better reception.

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So loads of cool stuff. 4x contrast ratio, 4x resolution for the screen. HD Video, Better Camera and battery life. Looks like much better reception as the antenna wraps around the outside of the phone instead of instead it.

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Oh and bing on the iPhone

Re: The iPhone thread
 

it does look nice. Everything looks good spec wise except the 256 meg of ram.I would have expected it to have twice that

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Ha ha everyone see the cock up iOS is already taken by Cisco so Apple with either have to change the name or face patents lol

Re: The iPhone thread
 

iPhone and iPad were already taken as well when they were announced.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Cisco's is IOS so maybe the little 'i' gets around it.

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I am still unsure whether to upgrade my 3G to a 4

Re: The iPhone thread
 

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/06/...eynote-iphone/

http://www.macrumorslive.com/

iWant!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Same price as before. June 24th release .

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I'm off that day, and out of contract. Hmmmm :scratch:

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Really loving the screen....

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http://c1798852.cdn.cloudfiles.racks...wwdc10_748.jpg

White or black?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Oohh.. AT&T have annnounced that anyone eligible for upgrade in 2010 is going to be able to get it on June 24th. Wonder if O2 will do the same? Probably not, but I can hope..

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Would be awesome if they do, I'm not due an upgrade until Jan 2011 otherwise :(

Re: The iPhone thread
 

My contract ran out in November so I have been waiting for this.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I want to know UK prices!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Ive just had a Desire as my T mobile upgrade but I have an upgrade due on O2 also.Thing is I am reluctant to tie in for 2 years and have to fork out £180(at least) I have requested my PAC code so I wonder if there is any flexability

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The US prices are the same as the current 3GS prices, assuming VAT stays the same I'd imagine the UK prices would be the same as the current offers on contract.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

That screen does look loverly. I am a sucker for nice screens.

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Although there is no price information on the UK site yet...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

how shocked would you be if we got screwed over here?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Well exactly.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Hopefully... although there is always the "Rip-Off Britain" factor.

I wouldn't be shocked at all...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Anyway, Steve Jobs has spoken, & now I want one.

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/index.html

Nothing on the Orange or Voda websites yet.

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Oh, & re. prices:

When the 3GS came out, I'm sure the prices for that in the US were similar to the prices for the 3G, yet the UK 3GS prices were higher than the UK 3G prices?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

would be nice if the iphone 4 wasn't exclusive to 02 this time.

Just got the 3gs so will prob stick with that for the moment. Shame they didn't up the storage though

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The 3GS isn't exclusive, so I can't see them going back to exclusivity with the v4.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Its not exclusive, Orange have already posted on their site that they will have the iPhone 4 on the 24th June.

Also carphone Warehouse shows it will be on O2, Orange and Vodafone from launch

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/new...w-apple-iphone

Re: The iPhone thread
 

thanks for clearing that up.

Just need to get saving again now ;)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

So, is the new one enough to tempt you back Stephen?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I really would love one. But I only spend about £10 every six months on PAYG :-(
The last and only new phone I had was one of the light blue Nokias back in 2000 ish.
I'm currently using a clam Samsung which is 3rd hand and about 6 years old.
I think I deserve one don't you? ;-)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I'm now wondering how much the 3GS will sink. I don't think anything more than £350 is worth it for a phone.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

They've already got permission from Cisco. IOS is very much a network industry term... :)

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Pfft! No bloody way I'm paying £350 for it!!

I reckon it'll be about the same over here as the current 3GS, the 3GS obviously dropping in price massively. O2 have offered me an upgrade to a 3GS for £89 - cash price £420 something? - so I'm hoping it'll be not too much more than £100 to keep my custom, tied into another 18 month contract at £35 a month... any more than that and I'm jumping ship - currently down to £20 a month, so they'll be getting £370 extra out of me in total... sounds about quids in for their part.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Nope, am totally happy with my HTC Desire.

I admit the screen does seem nice but its not that much better than any other phone out just now.

Also O2 have hinted on their twitter that existing iPhone customers may be able to upgrade early with a special offer. No more details at present though.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

O2 has updated its site (still no prices though!!!!!):

How to upgrade to iPhone 4


Early Upgrade Offer

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Gonna cost me £120 plus the cost of the 'phone to upgrade then by the look of it.

Sod that.

I'll wait until Jan and just pay the upgrade cost for the 'phone then.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

This is interesting:

http://www.o2recycle.co.uk/?cm_mmc_o...+ywgYgkwjw0zgf


iPhone 3GS 16 gig they will buy for £240. Might convince me to buy my iPhone 4 as PAYG

Re: The iPhone thread
 

you will get more than that for your old phone on ebay though..

Re: The iPhone thread
 

£20 a month for nothing? I think O2 really are having a giraffe on this.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Just make sure you sell it *before*, otherwise the price is liable to drop...

[Average recycle price for a 3G last year was £200 after the 3GS was released]

MoneySavingExpert.com has a site specifically for finding mobile recycling deals:

http://mobilevaluer.com/

Whack your phone in, & it finds all the offers for you.

Current highest for a 16GB 3GS is £260.

http://mobilevaluer.com/working/apple_3g-s-16gb

--------------

When I bought my 3GS last year, I did so before then selling my 3G via Mazuma.

I plan on selling it beforehand this time, & using Mrs D's crappy old spare Nokia (currently used only for Orange Weds) as a temp phone in the period between.


How so?

If you're in an iPhone contract, then not only did you sign a contract for a specified length of time, but your actual iPhone was heavily subsidised... So why should O2 let people off early for free?

As the cheapest Pay Monthly iPhone contract with O2 is £30/month, O2 could have just said "you pay us £30 x however many months you have left" & left it at that, but they didn't: they have offered to let people pay £20 for each remaining month instead.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I'm not saying that £20 a month isn't very generous(!), but how many people is that really ripping off? They'd be better off locking people into 24 month contracts - a bit more cash for O2, more people restarting their contracts...[COLOR="Silver"]

Re: The iPhone thread
 

And now its available on 3 !!

http://www.three.co.uk/Phones/iPhone

Re: The iPhone thread
 

So now on O2,orange, vodaphone and 3Uk. Which network is missing. VIRGIN.
Are virgin always last?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

It's also on T-Mobile!!

Having seen the new O2 tariffs I feel they will loose customers due to the unlimited data being replaced with a 500mb limit!!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Im currently not in contract...but if I upgrade I'll be on one of the crappy tariffs cos for 35/month you only get 300mins unlimited texts and atm I get 600mins 500 texts and i talk more than text so it would end up costing me more but 45/month is too much to pay

Re: The iPhone thread
 

this is what I don't like about the iphone. Just because it is a popular phone they move you onto really bad contracts that offer less than what I had before I changed.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

It's all smartphones from what I can see.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I got the HTC Desire 900 minutes unlimited net 500 texts and a bolt on so unlimited texts £26 dont think thats bad

Re: The iPhone thread
 

No, But from what I understand you'll need to upgrade to one of these contracts upon completion.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Thats my new contract started it last week. The iphone contracts have always been poorer than other smart phones. Ive just come off a contract giving me 800 minutes unlimited texts and loyalty net for £31 which gave me the Omnia 18 months ago.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yeah you got the new contract in time. These tariffs come into force on the 24th of June, the day of the new iPhone, but they apply across the entire network as far as I can tell.

http://blog.o2.co.uk/home/2010/06/of...bile-data.html

So the iPhone doesn't have a special tariff anymore. It's in a smart phone bracket along with the rest. You will keep your contact until it expires though.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I think O2's new "smartphone tariffs" suck, & not just because of the loss of "Unlimited Data".

I always thought the previous "iPhone tariffs" were a bit tight compared to normal tariffs, but these new ones are worse.

For £35/month, on my 18 month contract which started in January 2009, I get:

Minutes: 600

Messages: 500 (with the ability to use 4 inclusive messages to send 1 MMS or 1 roaming SMS)

Data: Unlimited

International Traveller Service (ITS): Free


Under the new tariffs, £35 would get me:

Minutes: 300

Messages: Unlimited SMS (with MMS & roaming SMS charged separately)

Data: 500MB

ITS: Nope.


Meh. I'm more & more tempted now to buy PAYG & get a Simplicity SIM, or (depending on their tariffs) go with Orange or 3 instead.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

on orange (with a 3gs)

£25:

• 75 minutes
• 125 texts
• Answer Phone
• Magic Numbers
• unlimited UK mobile internet browsing *
• unlimited Wi-Fi *

* Separate Fair Usage policies of 750MB / Month apply to both BT Openzone Wi-Fi and Mobile Internet Browsing. See terms for full details.
with this plan your iPhone is £189.00


£35:

• 600 minutes
• 500 texts
• Answer Phone
• Magic Numbers
• unlimited UK mobile internet browsing *
• unlimited Wi-Fi *

* Separate Fair Usage policies of 750MB / Month apply to both BT Openzone Wi-Fi and Mobile Internet Browsing. See terms for full details.
with this plan your iPhone is £189.00

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The £35 plan is similar to my current O2 contract.

Orange are apparently following O2 though & ditching unlimited data... I just hope that they don't also slash everything else like O2 has.

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Doesn't look like anyone else is going to reveal tariffs until Tuesday I think, & I doubt we'll have the handset prices before then either.

Annoying. I want time to look at tariffs & prices *before* the pre-orders open.

Hutchison 3G (3 UK) will carry Iphone 4
 

3 UK will carry the Iphone 4 which is due to be released on O2,Vodafone and Orange.

There is a registration form to be notified of its release on the 3 website. Just go to www.three.co.uk

The good question is, will the Iphone 4 be sold under the T-Mobile brand and will it ever reach Virgin Mobile?!

Re: Hutchison 3G (3 UK) will carry Iphone 4
 

Yes, according to tmobile.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Im gonna stick with my £20 600mins/1200text/unlimited data tariff.
I'll just buy the iPhone 4 outright.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Prices should be out today.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Vodafone prices have been leaked.

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/06/1...we-keep-the-s/

Gig of mobile data as standard, prices seem pretty much as the 3GS was.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

the £35 a month tarrif seems ok and its not a huge outlay on the phone seems competitive for what it is and it will be attractive against 500 meg plans

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Im going to try and get a 16 GB 3GS whilst I still can. I don't really use my phone for anything but internet and I'm on PAYG which makes it quite expensive.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

If you want to keep your current contract, yet shift it to an iPhone 4, you'll need a microSIM.

Would O2 transfer you to a microSIM without you getting a new contract?

If not, then it may have to be a cutting job...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

iPhone moan....

My first work iPhone was fine for about a year, then the battery started discharging quickly, and the iPhone kept rebooting itself.

Sent it back to O2 (as it was under the year), and got a replacement/refurb - the same problem occurred within a month.

On my second replacement/refurb (got it yesterday), and the battery is draining in 7 hours, with the only use being the power button being pressed (three times) to check the battery state.

If Apple aren't careful, I'll be keeping my temporary loan phone (HTC Desire running Android).

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Im not too worried, i think i will end up cutting mine just to be sure they don't try and say i have moved onto another deal by taking a replacement sim!

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Iphone 4 ORDERED!!!! roll on next week.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I pre-ordered a 16GB iPhone 4 at lunchtime via the Apple website, for Reserve & Collect at my local Apple Store.

I put down for SIM Free, but I may go Contract or PAYG depending on what the prices are when the idiot networks finally give us some actual INFORMATION.

So far, I think this launch is looking like a bit of a farce.

I can understand Apple not allowing the networks to offer pre-orders (if strict orders from Apple is in fact why they aren't), if Apple wants to ensure that it has enough stock to fulfil its own pre-orders, before letting the networks get anything.

But... Why the complete lack of any information? The *only* network to have released any tariff info so far is O2, yet they haven't released handset prices. And the other networks...as well as not releasing handset prices, they haven't even announced their tariffs!

Lame.

The only emails I had from O2 were a few rather pathetic emails from "Guru James" ( :rolleyes: ) last week, which from what I can tell on other forums have been widely ridiculed (they really are quite awful). All I have heard from Orange is along the lines of "Coming soon! We'll keep you up to date!" Ditto for Vodafone. I don't think I've heard anything yet from Three.

I would have preferred to order online for delivery on the 24th, as that way I'd have been guaranteed to get one (rather than having one reserved at the store & hoping they don't let some other walk-in have it), but the only bloody way to do that is to buy one SIM free... which is something I don't know if I want to do until I know what all the various networks are offering for tariffs & handset prices...

Oh, & the Apple Website can no longer ship orders earlier than the 2nd of July, so that's the whole pre-order allocation gone in one day.


Still, I suppose one plus is that at least we are getting it the same time as the Yanks, unlike the stock shortage cockups that caused the iPad to be delayed in Europe.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I've been on contract with Vodafone for the past 3 years, my contract with them is up in November, and was going to upgrade from my trusty HTC Magic to the iPhone 4. But now my son has just told me about the new Dell Streak, and now I'm having second thoughts!

http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/sp...ll/Streak_16GB

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Orange prices up:-
http://iphone.orange.co.uk/plans/#iPhonePAYM

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Orange seem to be very keen to tie people in for 24 months - I'm guessing the price of the handsets from Apple is more expensive this time 'round.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yeah, Much worse than Vodafone's 'leaked' contracts.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Although the upfront handset prices are high on Orange, I think the tariffs themselves are better than O2's (e.g. for £35 on an 18 month contract, you get 600 minutes instead of O2's 300, and 750MB data instead of O2's 500MB).

Still no handset prices from O2, and still NOTHING AT ALL WHATSOEVER from T-Mobile, Three, & Vodafone.

I'm swaying towards an Orange contract at the moment.

I don't mind being tied to another contract... If I want to get iPhone 5 next year, I can do what I did last year for the 3GS & get one PAYG & then shove the v4 SIM in the v5 to see out the remainder of the contract.

Total cost of contract phone vs SIM free or PAYG phone seems fairly equivalent to me, with Orange (& presumably O2)... usual case of small lump upfront & high monthly cost versus big lump upfront & small monthly cost. SIM free may be £499, but if you take the £229 upfront cost of a £35 contract & add that to 18 months' worth of the difference* between a SIM only deal (£20) & a contract (£35) you get £229 + (18x£15) = £499.

*[I never understand why some people use 18 x the full monthly tariff when working out the total cost of the phone...that £35pcm is not just for the phone, it includes usage too... so surely a better indicator of your monthly contribution towards paying off the subsidy is to take the cost of the contract tariff minus the SIM free tariff]

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Oh, & O2's "Guru James" has been replaced with "Guru Sarah".

Latest email links to the SIM swapping pages:

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/aboutsimswap.html

http://swapmysim.o2.co.uk/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Well, I got my 3gs the other day, £25 a month on the tariff I pasted, I'm rather satisfied. Probably more minutes and texts than I'll use, though the fact Ive paid for them might mean I do use them more, and that I don't have to mess around to text any more...

And since on the new scale Orange tariffs are £35 min which I'd probably not even entertain... I got somewhat in before the change.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

o2 now up:-

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/tariffs.html

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Vodas still looks better is they are right

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yep.

In a nutshell:-

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...GCCz9zyA#gid=0