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Does anybody else think it's a bit strange that, since they've either won the league or been promoted, all 3 of Arsenal, Norwich and West Brom have distinctly gone of the boil?

Correct me if Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m wrong (and I know you will ;) ), but have Arsenal actually won a game since (draws against Spurs, Birmingham and Portsmouth), Norwich were lucky against Preston at the weekend and lost last night, and West Brom have lost the last 2.

Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢ve got 3 theories:
1. Is this simply a case of the better team winning on the night (or not winning but, on the other hand, not losing in the case of Arsenal)?
2. The †˜lowerâà ¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€Š¾Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ teams raising their games against the promoted ones?
3. The promoted teams / champions getting complacent as their season is already effectively over :mad: ?

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Chelsea V Leeds 1970. :smokin:

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yeh yeh yeh , you got about 20million profit from anelka alone
yup it is
henry maybe but pires....not yet
man utd have a wage ceiling and its just paper talk that they earn more than arsenal players.....and fergie earns less than wenger.......chelsea are a different kettle of fish though
yes it is because in the 12 years since the start of the premier league we (united) have had the most money and also we have had the most wins
:wavey:

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Correct M8. :D

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Hmmmm that's not the answer I have :erm:

Which year was that m8?

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Make that Kelly :dunce:

Got me Eddies mixed up :erm:

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Well Done - even tho' you googled. :D

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West brom's team was the same one that won against Crewe a few weeks back, Stoke had a very weak side out (Not weak, but .... let's say a few youngsters in it..)

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I see Chelsea blew it then, 2 - 0 up as well :rolleyes:

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told you monaco will sting you lol

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ok maybe i was wrong :erm:


Another english club got knock out the cup :mad:

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Maybe Arsenal will do the biz next season now they have instructed their vice chairman to alter the FA Cup fixtures on their behalf :mad:

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who's old Enough to remember this one :)






Back home, they'll be thinking about us
When we are far away
Back home, they'll be really behind us
In every game we play They'll share every goal we are scoring
Out there we can still hear them roaring
And we'll give all we've got to give
For the folks back home

Back home, they'll be watching and waiting
And cheering every move
Back home, though we think we're the greatest
That's what we've got to prove Once more, we will meet with the best
Like before, we'll be put to the test
Knowing we'll give all we've got to give
For the folks back home



They'll see, as they're watching and praying
That we, put our hearts in our playing
We'll fight until the whistle blows
For the folks back home

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Well if you are really 98:erm: you would remember this one as well, but I somehow doubt it.:rolleyes:



FOOTBALL CRAZY

1. I have a favourite brother
And his Christian name is Paul.
He's lately joined a football club
For he's mad about football.
He's two black eyes already
And teeth lost from his gob,
Since Paul became a member of
That terrible football club.

CHORUS: For he's football crazy. he's football mad.
The football it has taken away
The little bit o' sense he had.
And it would take a dozen servants
To wash his clothes and scrub
Since Paul became a member of that
Terrible football club.

2. In the middle of the field one afternoon
The captain says, 'Now Paul,
Would you kindly take this place-kick
Since you're mad about football?
So he took forty paces backwards,
Shot off from the mark.
The ball went sailing over the bar
And landed in New Yark.

3. His wife she says she'll leave him
If Paulie doesn't keep
Away from football kicking
At night-time in his sleep.
He calls out 'Pass, McGinty!'
And other things so droll
Last night he kicked her out of bed
And swore it was a goal!

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Did anyone in the Fulham area spot Edwin Van der Saar in the bookies this morning,;)

What a prize plonker:Yikes:

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just washed my st george flag ready to attach to my car for euro 2004....anyone else getting ready already?

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That's racist.

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What, washing the flag or attaching it to a car? :D

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Displaying the England flag is racist remember

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oh yes, I was forgetting ...

and dangerous too, if you're moving to live in Glasgow. :erm: I found mine in a cupboard the other week, but I might have to hide it well away after we move north :( ;)

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the racists have never stolen our flag.........just pathetic left wing councils and stuff not allowing it to be flown have taken it from the public eye.
there will be more english flags sold this year than ever because the country wants to fly it again.

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I hope it's true!

I was in Liverpool during the last World Cup and noticed the St George Cross flying from the top of the city museum. I think this is the first time I have ever seen the English flag flying from a municipal building. And Liverpool is run by the bleeding-heart-Lib Dems, so if Liverpool can get the flag flying, there's hope for the rest of the country after all.

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too true towny........
you could also paint your house white with a red cross.......seeing as you reside in balamory it would blend in nicely :)

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well it look's like Smith's going over to the dark side


Smith: I'd go to Man Utd

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Yes, there's a remarkably eclectic and tolerant ethnic mix out here, considering we're supposed to be a community in the Western Isles ...

I would probably only get away with painting the cross on Archie's castle though. Maybe Spencer would do it if I asked him nicely enough? :rofl:

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apparently this is the first season he's scored more goals than he's got booked.. also the the time he has ever scored double figures in one league season ( not including cup, europe etc) was 11..

yes he does get played out of position alot but don't rate him that hightly..plus he has purple lips :)

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send him over to the dark side luke.....the empire needs more stormtroopers
he would work well with keano

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Well, according to tonight's Oldham Evening Chronicle. Jorge Andrade from Deportivo, Didier Drogba of Marseille, Wayne Rooney, Rafael van der Vaart from Ajax, Daniel van Buyten, Man City via Marseille are all "on their way, or targets for United"

I suppose they have to fill the papers with something.:td:

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with the regular season all but over we must look ahead to EURO 2004 in my mined only two teams can win it england or france thay have way better squads than the rest

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No, England won't win it. If I was a betting man I'd have put a lot of money on that!

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No way do we have one of the best teams

• France
• Germany
• portual
• spain
• italy

five teams which have a better chance

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just as long as France don't win ..

would like to see Spain or Portugal win..

we won't win kight get to semi finals if we get some luck

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yes we do the problem is we don't use the players in the right ways

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Dont forget Wales they are not out until todays ruling.

:D

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...108203,00.html....how the mighty are fallen :(

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Hmmm, out of that list Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢d only really be worried about France and Italy.

Germany have been underperforming badly recently, and I donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t think they are the force that they were only 2 years ago.

Portugal and Spain have the same problem †“ they seem to have plenty of talented individuals but they always seem to muck it up as a team (although I do accept that Portugal are getting better)

As has been said earlier in this thread, Wales are actually a very good side (Speed, Savage, Bellamy, Giggs etc). However, Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢d be very surprised if they were allowed into Euro 2004 instead of Russia †“ I just think it would be too big a U-turn for UEFA.

I also agree with Russ D on this one †“ it would be better for Wales to qualify on merit than through the †˜back doorâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢

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Oi! thats the second time this year I've spotted you posting in our football thread...and you don't like football.:pp ;)

I bet it gets you plenty of work though.:)

Very sad to read about Maradona and his problems, even though along with many England fans I could never forgive "the hand of God" it is sad to see the way the less mentally aware sportsmen are taken advantage of by so called friends.

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well the world cups going to africa ! this is a very good day for football

South Africa win 2010 vote

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dum de da dah do de dum..


waits for someone to say something, nods towards avater

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What, something like Man Utd 8 times Premiership Champions to your 3, etc.etc:pp :D

Arsenal played the best football in the league this year, pity they lost to Middlesbrough, Chelsea and United in all three Cup competitions though.;)

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well done to Arsenal on achieving one of the greatest sporting feets of all
time thay are kings amongst man

just a Thought what is the nearest league ground to your house for me it's Reading but by this time tomorrow it could be Aldershot :tu:

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Yeah that's right, Man United beat Arsenal didn't they :)

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Q: What did the Arsenal fan say after an especially dissapointing league game?

A: Oh well, you win some, you draw some.
:D :D

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:rofl: :rofl:

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Seems like David Beckham can speak Spanish after all.;) :D

Fancy calling the linesman a "Hijo de puta,"

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2 main points of discussion for this post.

1) How can a team of immortals have to resort to cheating to beat portsmouth at home and only draw at OT thanks to a missed pen.. be three minutes away from being knocked out of Europe and then get knocked out later on and lose in the FA Cup semi final. If they were that good they would have won the log. I do think it is an amazing performance by the team and one i don't think will be repeated in England again but they did have quite alot of luck as well. Just gets me annoyed that when United won the treble the press were like well done your quite good... when it's another side who only win one trophy they are the greatest team ever to have lived.. alot of double standards by the press here.

2) How come SA got the world cup. What facilities and infrastrure have they got to host it.. We only just lost out on hosting the 06 tourny and we have far better stadiums, facilities and infrastructure that Germany and no it's going to a third world country.. Am sure they will do a good job but seems more of a political decision than a footballing one.. Don't think England or even GB will ever get to host the world cup again.

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:clap:

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You have answered your own question correctly "political decision" for the same reason the UK will never win the Eurovision Song Contest again, not that give a *u*k:rolleyes:

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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...135559,00.html

:rofl:

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First of all Arsenal did not cheat or where 'lucky' to remain unbeaten every football team that is successful has a lot of luck. Man united have had a lot of luck in the past as well. The fact that we nearly lost at old trafford is because united missed not us you. Thats football you cannot keep going back and saying 'you wouldn't have won if he scored' because its stupid.

Second of all the press have always gone on and on about the treble and everyone is still saying 'arsenal is not man united cos they haven't won europe. Manchester has always had huge press because of its fan base the papers do talk about united a lot and united are still being prasied. Just accept that arsenal won and they deserved to. The league doent lie theres where the teams deserve to be, we accpeted it last year can you accept it this time?

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Actually no, Arsenal fans did not accept United deserved to win last year - all we heard was "if we hadn't slipped up, we'd have won".

Show respect and you'll get it in return.

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On the other hand, Liverpool dominated the English league for the best part of 20 years and yet throughout that period, Man Utd still managed to attract a whole pile of praise and attention, much of it IMHO as a Liverpool fan, entirely undeserved at that time. They had a big squad full of big names and a big budget, and what did they win in that time? Answer = not very much. But then, they are a very big club, with a very big image, and have been for a very long time. Man Utd are always going to be loved and loathed in equal measure for that reason, regardless of how well (or otherwise) they perform on the pitch.

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A Rubbish team is going to Portugal, I can tell u that much ;)

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It less of political correctness issue than is thought of, Sepp Blatter wanted a different continent for every world cup to ensure that it is fairly distributed to everyone, so North American for 94, Europe 98, Asia 02, Europe 06, African 10, so Europe 2014 ?

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where is south america ? :D

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They may have it in 2014 or 2018 ?

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Not really political correctness, but most definately political, If it wasn't for the votes of Asian and African nations, that numpty Sepp Blatter would have been turfed out years ago.

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yes a good point actually.. in the 70's and until the 90's we were basically crap.. with just a few FA Cups.. the liverpool side of the 70's and 80's was prob the best England side ever 4 European Cups can't be wrong..

I do think arsenal have been the best side all season but not by as much as the press make out.. Just don't like the fact that they are getting over praised but as you said i guess it has happened to us in the past as well.

Thing that really upset me was when i read the FA were thinking about giving the FA cup to arsenal if they won it! Would they ever do that to United ? How about giving us the Premiership trophy when they had tp put the new sponsors name on it.. we did win it 8 times in 10 seasons..

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would have been nice of the country that invented the game had a chance at hosting it. we never stood a chance when we bid for it in 06.. it's all backhanders and vote trading etc..

seeing as we invented the game the FA wrote the rule book why don't we have anyone high up in FIFA or UEFA

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because europe 'own' you ;)

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as it's coming up to EURO 2004 i Thought it would we handey to post a link to the Official site :tu:





Portugal 04

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Right, let's get this over and done with - who else has a disturbingly sneaking suspicion that Millwall are going to humiliate United today?

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any thing can happen in the fa cup Russ :) 1-0 to Millwall :tu:

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Entertaining first half, Millwall proving that league status means nothing in the FA Cup final, Giggs showing good sportsmanship by not diving in a situations where most players would have tried their luck, not too happy with Wise's antics though....

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Nice cross from Ronaldo after 7 mins :D

Good goal too, united should be 3 or 4 in front, but thats football.
A long way to go yet though.

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After listening to Motty's commentating, I have to ask - is there anything that guy doesn't know??

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w00t w00t!! :clap:

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*united fan holds gun to sda'a head*

well done on winning the fa cup united

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Did you see Dennis Wise practising his martial art skills on Paul Scholes in the first half? :mad: ;)

I can't really write my view, due to the swear filter... :fit: :D

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yep go Wise Kick that Scholes :tu:

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So....Arsenal, can't wait for the Charity Shield...you can give us our premiership trophy back then or wait til the end of the season :D

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:2up: ;)

Anyways...

I was suprised he didn't snap his neck!

Good touch over Jimmy Davis, wearing his name on their shirts.

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Keano came VERY close to scoring what would have been THE greatest FA Cup final goal ever......

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so tell me how long have the two been united fans than

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Since birth. Look at my location. It's my local team.

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And me? Since 1985.

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damn that keeper :D it was a good preformance and the second half got better, credit to millwall for making it hard at times.

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just wondered that's all :D

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<sigh> They won then ......

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Ohhh you didn't know? :D

The BBC's replay proved that RVN's second was not offside and Giggs WAS fouled - nice try Wisey but let's see you come up with a better reason for the scoreline :D

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Same here, if you reverse the last two digits.:)

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I would like to point out to those (mainly man u fans) who have accused arsenal of being dirty and cheating there way to the title. We have finished top of the fair play league. Yes we are the best fair play team in the premership

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Well, not long since got in from work and chuffed to bits with the result. Nice one my boys :tu: (SDA this girl is Manchester born and bred ;) )

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Really???

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Yep :)

http://www.arsenal.com/sportsappcont...tem&id=4571860
http://www.ananova.com/sport/story/sm_828795.html?menu=

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Bit strange this, a really funny smell came from my laptop when I read this bit

"positive play and respect towards referees and opponents"

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Hmmm, something not quite right about that...but of course, I've never said the Arse cheated their way through the season :)

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you can have your glory moments, but until you learn to be sucessful for as long as we were its just a period of 'your time'

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:rolleyes: sigh, another man united fan?

Congrats on winning the fa cup, And no I wont try to discredit the victory

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:sorry: Poor old Damien :D

Banter between opposing fans is part and parcel of supporting a football team. You give and you get it back. Try not to get upset over it and join in.

:hugs:

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no :rolleyes: i mean i have not posted in this thread previously ranting about man utd have i ? :rolleyes:

as i said if you continue to dominate and play good football i will acknowledge your team to be 'longterm' winners and contenders for cups, although ill give you credit for the league preformance, europe is much tougher........

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well done for that oh don't worry i hate united to even if it was the gunners
who turned us over 5-0 in the fa cup last season

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Key ;)

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Stoke City = Never ;)

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key that :Peace:

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Stoke have just been approcahed by a Multi Billionaire from Singapore, we have bought a place in the premiership, so see ya next season ;):pp

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Yeah , but we don't play in the singapore premiership :D

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*waits for same to happen to his club*:)

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just noticed this from a while back, lol

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Ever heard of the fair play league mate??? May I be so bold as to suggest you take a look? :LOL: :LOL:
yeah they should just take off their shirts and wave them around their head like girls instead. :D

make that 3 in 7 years?:PP::PP::PP:

Well Real have had a poor season, and Arsenal have achive some incredible things, so you are quite right. Bout the only sensible thing you posted.
:dunce: :blah: