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If I subscribe on the 19th January does it take the money straight away for the month or only bill me once the month is up? Intrigued how they'd do it what with the ability to cancel anytime

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It'll take the money there and then no matter how you look at it it is a min 1 month term.

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As well as the network being more expensive in the uk than anywhere else in the world i think its annoying that they're not offering any free months. They've done that twice before but we've never been able to enjoy it.

Do we think that the additional 2 quid we'll be paying is skys cut?? seems a bit mad really that in foreign countries they're paying 9.99 dollars or their version of that amount. in the uk its 2.50 quid more.

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A lot of people on other forums/sites think the high price is down to Sky and that possibly WWE have to pay a percentage of the subs to Sky each month.
This wouldn't surprise me.

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it seems a bit bizarre that every other country has the same price but the uk has the higher price. don't get me wrong i'll be getting it. Got a 4G phone and very large data so this will be perfect for me in work and at home. Would be polite if we could finally get a reason for the original delay and a reason for the higher price tho!

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For usa and those of us who use vpns or smart dns Dish have become the first major tv supplier to announce a standalone tv package that will be online and will cost $20p/m about £13 http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/5/749...unced-ces-2015
It will be available on the following to start with.


Amazon Fire TV
Amazon Fire TV Stick
Google Nexus Player
LG Smart TVs
Mac / OS X
Roku set-top boxes
Roku Streaming Stick
Roku TV
Windows PC
Xbox One


I think we will see Verizon and Comcast follow suite soon.

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Intel have announced a Windows 8.1 stick that will plug directly into your tv it will boast 2gb ram and 32gb flash storage with the ability to add more storage via sd card.
There will also be a cheaper linux version boasting 1gb ram and 8gb storage with a sd card slot too. Both will have a usb port too which should mean you can use a external harddrive for storage.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/07/intel-compute-stick/
The windows version will cost $149 about £98 and the linux version will cost $89 about £52

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Netflix calls VPN lock-out claims false, teases possible interface change.

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/netflix-...ook-interface/

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Easy to get around anyway just block googles dns on your router if you can, i had to block googles dns on mine as a new ROKU update forced their dns meaning i couldn't access any USA stuff, once i blocked googles dns all the US stuff worked again.
Plenty of guides how to do this on most smart dns sites.

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That's a rather interesting statement made in the article. At no stage do they discourage people from using a vpn or dns. It's almost as if they don't mind people doing it. I guess as long people are giving them money, why should they mind?

I am seriously considering changing my mind about not accessing foreign versions of Netflix after reading that.

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I think the proportion of Netflix users who do use a smart dns is probably quite small; people like us, who use tech type forums, so not really that significant maybe? I've mentioned it to several people, who aren't that kind of person, and they just don't seem that interested.

Given how easy it would be for them to fix it, that was the conclusion I came to before I started using one.

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You make a good point, the proportion of people who actually do use the vpns is probably quite small.

I have always steered clear of doing it simply due to it breaking the t+c's Netflix/content providers put in place. As I have said before, I don't judge anyone for doing it though.

I will ponder on the issue a bit more before deciding if I want to go down that route.

Can anyone recommend a DNS/VPN provider for me to think about too please?

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http://www.unblock-us.com/

I've used them for 2 years now with zero problems.

You can try them free of charge for 7 days without entering any payment details.

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Cheers!!:)

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Unotelly been using these for 2 years without a issue you get a free 8 day trial too no payment details needed. https://www2.unotelly.com/home

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Do you guys using VPN's have any noticeable difference in your broadband?
I'm interested in trying this but not if it's to the detriment of gaming or download speeds.

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Whats this site good sir?

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I'm using Unblock-US, no discernible change in speed.

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Not that I've found. VPN services can do, but the smart dns part of unblockus works differently and shouldn't do.

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Not with smart dns no it doesn't affect your speeds as it doesn't go through their servers all it does is just spoofs your location.
I get 75mbs down and 18.9mbs up and with my smart dns i'm still getting 75mbs down and 18.4mbs up.

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The smart dns service i use so you can for example switch netflix regions.

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http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...lock-vpn-users

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It would be interesting to know what percentage of people in countries where Netflix is available, use VPNs. I suspect it will be quite small. Seems like Netflix ought to launch in more countries.

I do agree there should be a crack down on password sharing; the price is inexpensive and fantastic value for money, compared to other things. And if every user paid, they would have more funds to spend on content.

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Presumably nobody in the US is doing it. This Canadian report suggests 1 in 3 English speaking Canadian subscribers are doing it. I would imagine that would be fairly typical in English speaking countries.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/business/ne...down-1.2889895

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Actually they do. I follow several Netflix threads on the American AVSForum, and there are people who do use smart dns services.

Apart from the advantage of accessing various Netflix regions, to get content not available on US Netflix, when Super HD streams were first introduced, they could only be accessed if you used an ISP that used the Netflix CDN. Not many US ISPs wanted to do that. But Unblock-US found a way around that and US users used Unblock-US to access Super HD streams. Several months later, Netflix changed the rules, and any ISP could get Super HD.

Americans also use a smart dns to access BBC iplayer etc.

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I'm wondering if we're going to see something similar to the US soon where networks say such as Disney release a tv app that you login via your tv provider.

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Oh they do not just Netflix either i was once sharing my nowtv account with a guy in the US for access to Showtime and HBO, he said to me if i ever got Skygo he would love to do a deal where i give him a skygo login and he'd give me a dishnetwork login.
Only reason it ended was because he had to drop HBO and i was dropping nowtv too.

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Well I stand corrected!

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...956046#rlabs=8

Every Premier League game set to become available for streaming according to this article.

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Remember me suggesting this 1andrew1 :D

In similar news

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Yet this article from earlier today suggests this won't happen:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nts-Ofcom.html

"It is understood that Ofcom representatives said at the meeting last week that they will announce a decision on its investigation of the Premier League rights auction by the end of March.

Multiple sources close to the meeting told The Telegraph that officials indicated they were likely to intervene to increase the number of matches that can be broadcast live, following a complaint last year from the cable operator Virgin Media.

Ofcom gave those present at the impression it does not intend to make all Premier League matches available. In recognition of football traditions, those matches scheduled for 3pm on Saturday would remain off-limits to broadcasters, it was suggested at the meeting, although they would be fewer to allow more action at other times of the week."

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Wwe network is live in the uk. 9.99 a month. You can subscribe now and watch

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No thanks l don't want to watch that fixed rubbish.;)

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Haha den you cynic! But yes it is obviously fixed but I do enjoy the old 80s and 90s days. Reminds me of the happier days before I ended up in a call centre...

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:omg:

heresy!

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why does OFCOM have anything to with what time matches are played and how they are distributed? I can understand them getting involved so one provider isn't dominating. But kick off times and when games are played?

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All change for 4OD content in March:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29154860

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Looks like wwe network is giving us 2 weeks free??

You are currently subscribed to WWE Network.

Your billing period begins on Wednesday, January 28, 2015. The credit/debit card or PayPal account you have on file will be charged
£ 9.99 on this date.

If you do not wish to be charged, you must cancel your account before Wednesday, January 28, 2015. For additional information, click here.

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Sounds good, but hopefully, this won't go the same way as the BBC i-Player on the TIVO.

Presumably, the existing V and V+ boxes won't be able to access the new service as they are not directly connected to the internet.

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If one uses a service in the UK to unlock US Netflix content, will this work on VM?

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It will. Although not via the tivo app obviously

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I can confirm it does work with VM, been watching WWE Network since US launch last year and watching American Netflix.

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What, on the TiVo? :confused:

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Thanks for the vpn website suggestions. I am assuming I should be able to access one of the vpn sites via the web browser on me bluray player? Is anyone aware of any reason why I would not be able to?

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No, via laptop. Sorry I thought this was general Netflix and streaming chat. Should have made that clear shouldn't I?

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Just to say I've had us Netflix via my ps3 for years and have never signed up for any vpn service. Just needed to change the DNS settings on the device, pretty easy to find some suitable numbers via google

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It doesn't work quite like that Harry.

Here is how to set up various devices.

http://www.unblock-us.com/how-to-set-up/

Feel free to post or PM me with any queries.

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But for three quid a month, from a reputable service, is it worth the faffing around on Google.

These Smart dns services give you access to all the Netflix regions and services such as Hulu.

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Didn't realise it cost that little :D I may investigate

To be fair it's very little effort, can't remember the last time I had to change them, maybe once in the last year

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Does anybody know why LG smart tvs don't have a wwe app. Samsung, Sony and other tv makers do.

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It depends on how old your LG TV is mate.

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It's 5.99 Canadian dollars, so varies a bit with the exchange rate. It's often only £2.80.

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I prefer unotelly excellent service costs $4.95 a month about £3.20 give and take exchange rates.

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Yes, my mistake, Unblockus is 4.99 Canadian dollars (not 5.99).

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Unblockus are doing little competitions on their fb page at mo if your suggestion gets chosen in their weekly list you win a free month of unblock, i won one over Christmas.

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Thanks for clarifying, Mark!

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I meant via the TiVo. If you log into the US Netflix site on a PC, is this then mirrored when you access your account via TiVo?

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No.

There is no way to get non UK Netflix on Tivo

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Useful link for Now TV boxsets , posted by a user on DS Forums

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Besides that link, if you subscribe to this thread on the Now TV Community forums, you get an email when they add or remove box sets.


http://community.nowtv.com/t5/Entert...on/td-p/177659

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Thanks, thought i'd ask on the off chance.

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The implications of Vince Cable's latest initiative to create a single EU market for digital services are mind boggling. This will be good for the consumer in terms of streaming services like Netflix (although it's a pity that his proposals can't extend beyond the EU into America), but it also throws into question how this will affect football rights.

Could this drive down the prices for film rights?

Certainly plenty of food for thought here!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...r-Netflix.html

Vince Cable will risk a clash with the film and music industries on Tuesday by calling for the creation of a single EU market for digital services such as Netflix.

The Business Secretary will say in a speech in Brussels that such services should offer the same content in all EU member states, for services paid for in one country to be available in the same form in all countries and for pricing offers to be replicated across the continent.

At present Netflix and Spotify, which operates a subscription streaming service for music, offers different catalogues at different prices depending on where the customer is located.

Harmonising such services across the EU would require copyright holders to change the way they license their material, which is currently carefully segmented for different geographic markets to maximise sales.
For instance, studios stagger cinema release dates to allow for translation and more efficient promotion, which means films are often available on Netflix at different times in different countries. Record labels often take a similar approach to major album releases.

The BBC is subject to similar rights restrictions that mean the iPlayer is not available abroad.

Mr Cable will claim that a single market could boost EU economies by €340bn.

He will say: “In today’s world of smartphones and Wi-Fi, consumers who have paid for a service rightly expect to be able to use it across borders in the EU.

“But at the moment we have a patchwork quilt of digital content and services - very good in some places but threadbare in others.

“That’s why I’m calling for the creation of a digital single market. Not only would this boost UK and eurozone economies by €340bn (£261bn) but it will make online prices fairer, enable start-ups to be formed within 24 hours, and help businesses sell throughout the EU.”

The speech will align Mr Cable with Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European Commission, who has made the creation of a single market for digital services one of his top five policy priorities. He claims it will boost EU economies by only €250bn, however.

Mr Cable’s intervention is likely to infuriate Britain’s creative industries, who will see it as an attack on copyright and their livelihoods. Last week, Culture Secretary Sajid Javid praised their contribution as “one of our most powerful tools in driving growth, outperforming all other sectors of industry”.

Meanwhile, it is likely to be welcomed by internet giants such as Amazon, Apple and Google, which could more easily mount an attack on the pay-TV industry if rights were sold on a pan-European basis.

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And it would tie the UK more tightly to the EU which the lefty parties like.

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But what about the benefits to consumers?

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Netflix have already hinted they want all their content on all regions at the same time, it's no secret when the new contacts come up for renewal Netflix will certainly be bidding for them.

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Netflix takes about 1 to 1 and half minutes to load from the initial app to watching a film. Will this be speeded up at some point in the future (I suppose it is more to do with the Tivo Box)!

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It is to do with the Tivo. Having recently been fortunate enough to upgrade to a smart TV, I have been astonished at how slow Netflix on the Tivo actually is.

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I know that TiVo is slower than other Netflix devices, but is 1.5 minutes such a big deal if Tivo is the only Netflix device that you have? It's still quicker than driving to the local cinema ;)

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How is your smart TV linked (what cables).

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Yes it is slow with the technology about nowadays as for the cinema no thanks I can't stand the popcorn munchers in my ears.

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Defo the tv with my firetv box it's a matter of seconds.

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No cables, just wifi. That is rather ironic bearing in mind the Tivo has a dedicated signal. Prior to having a smart TV the loading time was not a problem (it still does not really bother me), my smart TV has just opened my eyes to how slow the Tivo Netflix app is. I still watch Netflix via my Tivo simply because my BB is affected if I watch Netflix over the wifi.

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Been told that Netflix are "clamping down" on people using unblock us to access USA content. Is this true?

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https://gigaom.com/2015/01/06/netfli...ing-vpn-users/

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Load of crap Netflix have already released a statement saying it isn't true.

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Netflix is crap via the Tivo, I mean in this day and age, and with Virgin boasting that they have the fastest BB etc etc, it really is poor!

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Always said the Tivo vm have is crap.

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loads slowly but once up its fine i find. im watching the wwe network via my ps3 and it loads up instantly which took me by surprise

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I have pretty much stopped using it on the Tivo when the Netflix app is so much faster when using Chromecast or Xbox 360.

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Would be good if Vodafone brought this approach to the UK when they launch their TV service this year (assuming they don't acquire VM/LGI:))
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/...-hbo-channels/

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Is it the Tivo that's poor or the particular Netflix software on it that's poor? Are there faster Tivos elsewhere then that might come to the UK soon?

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How could they bring that to the UK considering Sky has exclusive UK subscription rights to the entire HBO catalogue ?

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I found vms tivo to be clunky and slow, my friend in the US says her tivo is very smooth and quick.

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Rights do vary beween territories but HBO's back catalogue rights are not exclusive to Sky. I guess that Vodafone might be tempted to bundle in Now TV instead though.

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Only to the first run material, MM.

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That's what was said on here but its incorrect , its the entire catalogue hence why nobody else offers HBO content on a subscription basis.

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That would make total sense; is there a source link so we can nail this once and for all?

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Apologies, MM, you are right. You can buy, but you cannot subscribe. :dunce:

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He's right, Andrew. I think there was some confusion on here before with US (as opposed to UK) rights.

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Link

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BSkyB was believed to be in competition with BT for the rights and extended its agreement with HBO after negotiating a deal reportedly worth as much as £275m

If the sky is paying that much then no wonder they don't want others to have it.

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Rome, Band of Brothers and Deadwood air on TCM meaning Sky don't have the exclusive rights to all HBO titles. Also doesn't Sex and The city air on Comedy Central and True Blood on Fox?

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I'd imagine its because all of those HBO either co-produced or didn't have the exclusive distribution rights to.

Rome (co produced with BBC)
Band of brothers (co produced with BBC)
Deadwood (Paramount Home entertainment partnered and handled international distribution)
Sex and the city (CBS Television and Warner Bros involved)
True Blood (Already aired and deal in place with Fox before Sky Atlantic started.)

There are other examples Parades End was never shown as it aired on BBC Two , HBO partnered with the BBC on its production.

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I think it'll be interesting when HBOGO launches as a stand alone service globally.
Sky had a deal in place with WWE but that never stopped the network from launching.

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Yup, I can not see why HBO will not launch their own subscription service. Sky may have had exclusive rights to the subscription rights under the previous deal. Does not mean they have secured them under the extended, newer deal. I have yet to see Sky say they have exclusive subscription rights for the UK under the newest deal.

I honestly think HBO have Sky over the proverbial barrel now. If Sky still want exclusive first run rights, they will have to dance to HBO's tune in this country.

Does anyone know when the original 5 year deal for SA would have been up? Perhaps, just perhaps, we might see HBOGO launch around that time.

Equally, we may not see it arrive. Sky may very well still have exclusive subscription rights, they simply might not feel to the need to advertize the fact.

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Sky to launch new Now TV box in 2015

Link

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Look forward to seeing the specs of the new box, but more importantly, the price!

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Could be an interesting step 1080p compatible.

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And 5.1 audio?

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In case anyone has not seen, the first episode of Fortitude is being shown on Youtube.

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The Roku 1 which the Now TV box is based upon is expected to be discontinued in 2015.It would make sense for the current Now TV box to be discontinued at the same time. I expect it would be replaced by the Roku 2 or Roku 3. The Roku 2 has a composite output so would work better as a replacement for the current box.

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The nowtv box is based on the ROKU lte not the Roku1 mate, the ROKU1 is far more superior than the lte it offers 180p where as i believe the LTE only offers 720p?
I think the ROKU LTE has already been discontinued.

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Sorry, yes it's not the Roku 1 but the Roku LT (don't think there's an LTE) and indeed it looks like it has been discontinued. The LT only has 720P.
I would expect the new Now TV box to be in black. Sky Germany offers a rebadged Roku 3 box. (Identified as it has ethernet, USB, and micro SD card) so perhaps the UK will get this box too? http://www.sky.de/web/cms/de/kundenc...ox&shurl=tvbox

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Thanks Harry.:tu:

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It is the LT lol no idea why i put LTE for hehe i blame the Jack Daniels.
The new Nowtv box i think will be about £30 and based on the ROKU 3

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I would be interested in the Now TV box if either it provided on demand programmes from Sky Atlantic and retained them for quite a long period (instead of deleting them suddenly on bloc) or alternatively if it had a recorder with it. I don't intend ever to go back to watching live programmes to Sky's schedules with interminable adverts.

Sky could actually make quite a lot of money out of this if they stopped and thought about this from the consumer's point of view.

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Box Sets to be developed more and a Restart feature.

Link