Cable Forum - Starmer’s chronicles

So let me make sure I got this correct.
You think its the Ukrainians fault they got invaded, because they live next to Russia ? and they should all have moved to America ?

They were attacking Russians in Eastern Ukraine since 2014, with thousands killed The democratically elected President was ousted just before that started.
Ukrainians had been itching to leave before long then. They were looking for visa-free travel to the EU and EU membership.
The Canadian Parliament gave 2 standing ovations to a Ukrainian who had fought to clear out the Russians from Ukraine. The problem is that was during WW2 where he and other Ukrainians fought with the SS Division Galicia.
A bit of perspective.

Damien

08-09-2025 21:00

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36202409)

Freeloaders Ukraine got told to get with the reality of things while the rest of the world sympathised with Ukraine then agreed with Trumps leadership.

What do you want me to explain?

What does that have to do with this idea of not issuing visas?

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36202411)

I've been over this in the relevant thread before where my nonsensical posts were removed. I basically said they should move to America along with their friends. Clearly living next to Russia isn't for everyone.

Where has Damien been these past months asking me to explain his absence.

Whose absence?

GrimUpNorth

08-09-2025 21:02

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202404)

On the crossing route, I don't think there is. If they stick to the well known '22 miles', or even venture into 24 mile territory, they pass directly into our territorial waters. No, what's required is an international incident with France to push the boats back. If the boats spill, we take the floating people back to France and they can refuse landing - it's on them then.

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Btw, if they were fleeing persecution, then they's be genuine refugees. But they are fleeing France.

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I would of thought with your obsessional hatred of everything France related you'd understand why they're so desperate to get here, infact I'd expect you'd even congratulate them on their choice to leave :confused:.

thenry

08-09-2025 21:18

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36202408)

What are you actually saying? Stood up to Ukraine? Trump? I can't make sense of it.

I mentioned Ukraine making a point of Trump outspoken nature.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36202433)

What does that have to do with this idea of not issuing visas?

You've latched onto the Ukraine comment. See my reply above.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36202433)

Whose absence?

You want me to explain Ukraine! I have already which were removed as nonsensical. How's your Arteta doing, near 1 billion deep into a semi hard-on.

Sephiroth

08-09-2025 22:36

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36202434)

Your sarcasm has merit!

1andrew1

08-09-2025 22:42

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202437)

Your sarcasm has merit!

:D:D:D

Paul	08-09-2025 23:57

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36202430)

Russia had its reasoning for the offensive.

Ok. Thank you comrade thenry. ;)

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36202432)

No idea why you're replying to a question I asked someone else :confused: and you didnt even answer it, just a random story. :erm:

1andrew1

09-09-2025 00:31

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36202435)

You want me to explain Ukraine! I have already which were removed as nonsensical.

Damien does not want you to explain Ukraine, he just wants an answer to his question

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36202433)

Whose absence?

This was in response to your somewhat confusing post:

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36202435)

Where has Damien been these past months asking me to explain his absence.

But none of the above has much to do with Starmer's chronicles.

GrimUpNorth

09-09-2025 09:03

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202437)

Your sarcasm has merit!

Thank you, but to be fair I agree something has to be done to stop people risking their lives to try and get here.

Damien

11-09-2025 11:57

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Mandelson fired after his birthday message to Epstein, along with his preexisting links to him, were revealed.

Sephiroth

11-09-2025 12:07

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Yet Trump takes the Teflon approach. He'll be a pixie and suggest Farage for ambassador!

Damien

11-09-2025 12:08

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202558)

Yet Trump takes the Teflon approach. He'll be a pixie and suggest Farage for ambassador!

Trump has personal support to ride out his links that Mandelson doesn't. Also, it's the UK and not America where we're less tolerant of dodgy politicians anyway.

papa smurf

11-09-2025 12:40

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36202557)

Mandelson fired after his birthday message to Epstein, along with his preexisting links to him, were revealed.

Thought the PM had full confidence in him yesterday :rolleyes:

heero_yuy

11-09-2025 12:59

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36202562)