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I'd imagine 3 months in the EU countries.

13 weeks, at 2 shows a week, that's 26 performances . . . just pick the venues that make sense :D

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What a complete non event.

So hardly a "Punish the UK".

Most likely we will take this up.

So adults only, not children.


For most people, all this will affect is their holidays.
Assuming for a minute that everyone stopped going to the EU for a holiday, then all that would punish is the EU, not the UK.
In reality, no one is going to care about paying it, everyone does it for holidays to Florida, and no one complains about it "hurting".

I dislike the EU as much as many, and I am glad to be rid of them, but trying to make this a brexit issue is pure desperation by some.

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There's a vicious rumour on twitter that the government is going to deploy the army to keep the shelves stocked in supermarkets, wtf, wt actual f, who voted for this again?

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More misinformation from you I see, careful, I might mistake you for Mr K.

Brexit had nothing to do with shelves being empty, if there is actually any shelves empty at all. My supermarket has fully stocked shelves. The shortfalls the other week was triggered by the sheer number of people being pinged by the NHS Covid App. I saw some desperate Remainiacs post a doctored screenshot, alleged to have been taken when the initial panic buying took place at start of pandemic. Desperate stuff still trying to rubbish the vote, when in reality, all their stupid claims of the county going bankrupt hasn’t come to pass, quite the opposite actually.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ics-Corps.html

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Thanks for confirming what I had originally said.

But Remainiacs are going to cling to the Brexit scapegoat for everything, because everything else they said was going to happen, has not happened. :rolleyes:

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Yeah what do I know, I only work for some of the biggest haulage and logistic firms in the country, you know the ones trying to poach each others staff with hefty bounties because things are so bad and I think you'll find it wasn't lorry drivers being pinged it was the people unloading them and we don't have 100000 people waiting for licence to fill the gaps either, very far from it

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Surely 1/6th of HGV drivers in the UK weren't foreign were they?

If so, that's a massive failing somewhere . . . and a possible nod to the wages on offer that allowed it to happen.

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Exactly - but it's a lets blame Brexit for everything approach to every problem Britain is having at the current moment.

The UK does not need to be in the corrupted EU - the vaccine fiasco they caused should be a bloody eye opener to Remainers, but oh no they love this disgusting corrupted club for some unknown reason. We are better out of that club, well out.

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I can only find data (albeit after a very quick search up until 2016

The proportion of foreign national HGV drivers between 2006 - 2016 increased from 3% in 2006 to 12%

it would be a reasonable assumption to make, that this increase continued 2016-2019 ?

Average salary in 2016 was £11.06

I did find data to suggest that this had increased to approx. £11.60 per hour YE 2020

The hourly salary is atrocious consdering their responsibilities
https://assets.publishing.service.go...stics-2016.pdf

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It's actually worse than that, European firms tend to pay drivers by the kilometre not by the hour, so if they're being held up at boarders or by customs they're not earning a penny. It's a very complicated industry with very fine margins and what may seem like opportunities opening will quickly disappear along with the jobs

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Because a lot didn't work for British firms, they worked for EU companies who sub contracted them to British firms, imo the problem is with the continental driving, they don't want to do it so filling those spots has had a knock on effect on the rest of the industry, I could be wrong to, I'm more likely in the drivers room having a cuppa than in the logistics office, it's the drivers from various companies I pick this up from.

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